Zone1 Decline of Christianity a good or a bad thing?

[Blues Man]

God.

You have to prove god exists first

People invented gods just like people invented morals

 

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Which law varies with their communities.

No. Their perception of it does. Standards exist for logical reasons and are independent of what man wishes them to be. But even then, there were always those in those times who did not agree with the perception of the time.

 

[TNHarley]

Will be good when all religions are gone. At least the ones that preach hate. Like the Abrahamic ones.
Religion is the biggest mass murderer on the planet.

 

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Will be good when all religions are gone. At least the ones that preach hate. Like the Abrahamic ones.
Religion is the biggest mass murderer on the planet.

So you're a fan of the atheistic nations of the 20th century?

 

[TNHarley]

So you're a fan of the atheistic nations of the 20th century?

Nope. But this thread isnt about them.

 

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Nope. But this thread isnt about them.

Sure it is. It's a real life example of the kind of society that got rid of religion. Where every proclamation was about man's earthly happiness.

 

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Nope. But this thread isnt about them.

How is what you are arguing for different than what Lenin argued for?

"...The combating of religion cannot be confined to abstract ideological preaching, and it must not be reduced to such preaching. It must be linked up with the concrete practice of the class movement, which aims at eliminating the social roots of religion..." Vladimir Lenin

 

[TNHarley]

Sure it is. It's a real life example of the kind of society that got rid of religion. Where every proclamation was about man's earthly happiness.

Of course. Just ignore my point, and deflect to atheism. How honest of you.

 

[TNHarley]

How is what you are arguing for different than what Lenin argued for?

"...The combating of religion cannot be confined to abstract ideological preaching, and it must not be reduced to such preaching. It must be linked up with the concrete practice of the class movement, which aims at eliminating the social roots of religion..." Vladimir Lenin

Of course. Just ignore my point, and deflect to atheism. How honest of you.

 

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Of course. Just ignore my point, and deflect to atheism. How honest of you.

That's what a society devoid of religion was in the 20th century. You don't have to imagine what that was like. There's hard evidence for it. Government enforcing no religion.

So that was honest of me as it is literally the thing you wish for. You won't get it any other way. It's dishonest of you to dismiss this history.

 

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Of course. Just ignore my point, and deflect to atheism. How honest of you.

Doesn't it bother you to have your beliefs about religion line up with Lenin's beliefs? Doesn't it make you want to pump the brakes just a little?

"...The combating of religion cannot be confined to abstract ideological preaching, and it must not be reduced to such preaching. It must be linked up with the concrete practice of the class movement, which aims at eliminating the social roots of religion..." Vladimir Lenin

 

[Blues Man]

So you're a fan of the atheistic nations of the 20th century?

Secular humanism is a far better philosophy than any religion

 

[TNHarley]

That's what a society devoid of religion was in the 20th century. You don't have to imagine what that was like. There's hard evidence for it. Government enforcing no religion.

So that was honest of me as it is literally the thing you wish for. You won't get it any other way. It's dishonest of you to dismiss this history.

No, I dont wish for that. And idc for your gaslighting.

 

[TNHarley]

 

[Blues Man]

Secular Societies Fare Better Than Religious Societies

If religion withers, does society rot? Clearly not.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

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Secular humanism is a far better philosophy than any religion

Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin thought so too.

 

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No, I dont wish for that. And idc for your gaslighting.

How exactly is it gas-lighting if you want religion to go away?

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I'm pretty sure I can handle that reference better than you can handle this one.

"...The combating of religion cannot be confined to abstract ideological preaching, and it must not be reduced to such preaching. It must be linked up with the concrete practice of the class movement, which aims at eliminating the social roots of religion..." Vladimir Lenin

 

[TNHarley]

Hitler, the avenging hand of god. As he called himself, anyway.

 

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Hitler, the avenging hand of god. As he called himself, anyway.

And you want to blame God for that? SMH.

 

[TNHarley]

How exactly is it gas-lighting if you want religion to go away?

I'm pretty sure I can handle that reference better than you can handle this one.

"...The combating of religion cannot be confined to abstract ideological preaching, and it must not be reduced to such preaching. It must be linked up with the concrete practice of the class movement, which aims at eliminating the social roots of religion..." Vladimir Lenin

Just the ones built on fear and hatred. Like yours.
We would be much better off
Lenins religion was government. I have nothing in common with that retard, retard.