DADT dead, finally, equal rights, and we catch up with the rest of the world!

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    Like the noble, battle hardened nation of Israel, who has allowed my brethren so serve openly for a while now, AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT, OR FROM IT.

    I know a couple dudes still in, this will effect and benefit them. I know they're relieved to know that they no longer have to live a lie and can be honest, real, and proud if they so choose.

    IF WE'RE WILLING TO DIE FOR THIS GREAT NATION, WE DESERVE @ LEAST THAT MUCH.

    To the likely closeted, sad, bass ackwards, bigots like SwordOfDamocles, Sunni Man, SaggyinNola I say: This is equal civil rights, FINALLY. Our patriotism aint stained by ignorant bigotry like yours is. The VAST MAJORITY of the military is fine with this and knows that they been serving alongside us this whole time WITH NO PROBLEMS ANYWAY.

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    Don't ask don't CARE
     
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    Righteous 1: Please find for me where it states that a VAST MAJORITY of the military does not care. I would just appreciate you providing some backing for your statement. As a former active duty Marine and now government worker, I do not find your claim to be true.

    I have several issues about what the media is putting out. First, the report published by the Department of Defense (DoD) working group, they only recieved, "responses from 115,052 Service members and 44,266 military spouses." (1) This is a very small fraction of the total force in the U.S. military. Currently, the U.S. military is composed of a total of 2,843,622 personnel (2). The survey only covered 4% of the total force. Not even close to a vast majority. The media is utilizing the percentage of those surveyed and portraying that number as 100%.

    In the report also states that of, "...more than 115,000 active duty service members indicated only 29.4 percent would “take no action” if they were assigned to share an “open bay shower” with a homosexual." (3)

    Thanks in advance for your clarification.

    1. Department of Defense. "Report of the Comprehensive Review of the Issues Associated with a Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. 30 Nov 2010. http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2010/0610_gatesdadt/DADTReport_FINAL_20101130(secure-hires).pdf (accessed on 20 Dec 2010), Pg 49.

    2. GlobalFirePower.com. "United States of America Military Strength." 12 Feb 2009. Military Strength of United States of America (accessed on 20 Dec 2010)

    3. Department of Defense. "Report of the Comprehensive Review of the Issues Associated with a Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. 30 Nov 2010. http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2010/0610_gatesdadt/DADTReport_FINAL_20101130(secure-hires).pdf (accessed on 20 Dec 2010), Pg 67.
     
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    That report is flawed yea, but I know you'll get similar results no matter how many times you repoll.

    I have yet to meet a service member who is bigoted enough to dislike me, or the many gay service members I know, which includes Marines, Army, and Navy. None of the straight service members I know do, I know em in all branches, they're fine with it.

    They know there's more important things to worry bout than tryna shit on your fellow countryman's patriotism for something he can't help, and likely won't effect you.
     
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    KABUL - The gay Army lieutenant's heart had been racing all night.

    Shuffling between meetings at his outpost in eastern Afghanistan on Saturday night, the 27-year-old officer kept popping his head into the main office to catch a glimpse of Fox News's coverage of the Senate debate that led to a vote lifting the ban on gay men and lesbians serving in the military openly.

    "Don't cry," a 21-year-old specialist, one of the lieutenant's confidants, told his boss jokingly when news broke that 65 senators had voted to repeal "don't ask, don't tell."

    "I'm completely numb," was all the lieutenant could mutter.

    Across the world, other gay troops whose lives, careers and relationships have been indelibly, if sometimes quietly, shaped by the ban reacted to the news with a mixture of rapture and disbelief.

    Many had seethed for weeks as the political debate over the repeal became laden with sexual innuendo and suggestions that openly gay soldiers on the front lines might become life-threatening distractions.

    "I was flipping out," the lieutenant said Saturday night, speaking by phone. "This turned into a [expletive] political fight. We were caught in the middle of it. But the people who it affects the most couldn't do anything about it. We felt used."

    The stakes were also high for the specialist. His brother is gay and had vowed to join the Air Force if the policy were repealed this year. Their father is also gay, which made attending military events somewhat awkward for the family.

    Gay troops cautiously optimistic following 'don't ask' repeal
     
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    The report is not flawed, just ignored! When the POTUS, SECDEF, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs wants repeal, then of course they will get the results that they want. The problem was that the report generated results that they did not want. Therefore, every time the working group received negative information, they merely disregarded it and stated that it didn't represent the majority of the military. Of the 116,000 surveyed, 71% of them have a problem with it, but of course this was disregarded.

    Just making a point that there was no real research put into this. The repeal of DADT is strictly political and has nothing to do with what is needed or not needed in the U.S. military.

    People like you just bought into the political and media spin and assumed that the report generated favorable opinions in the military regarding repeal of DADT. In all actuality, repeal is not favored in the military, but then people do not want to hear that. It is done now, so I suppose it really does not matter what is wanted or not wanted.
     
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    Reidlr wrote:
    That's a common conspiracy theory with opponents of DADT, and equal civil rights, etc. You weren't part of that polling process, I highly doubt anyway, so you can keep floating that theory and the made up "discounted" numbers if yall want to make yourselves feel better. But again, NO STRAIGHT service member I know had a problem with me serving, NONE, IN ANY BRANCH. Sad thing is, you've very likely already served with my brethren, aint know it, got close with them, and upon founding out they happen to be gay, will dislike, even hate them......sad indeed.
     
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    Will you fuck off telling other Americans to leave. This country belongs to ALL Americans. Being gay does not make you special. You're just one of 320 million. Get the fuck over yourself.

    Oh... and... you don't need to start a thread on every fucking thought that goes through your head.

    And.... your signature is completely fucking ridiculous. It's a fucking internet forum, you stupid fuck.
     
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    Any other spaz attacks sweetie? Or are we done?:lol::cuckoo:

    Free speech, Ima keep using it, don't like it, LEAVE.:eusa_whistle:
     

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