Current Communist (Democrat) Goals

[Vigilante]

Thank you JakeAss for the FUNNY comment, they are always meant to entertain, as well as bitch slapping stupid people...You prove that they accomplish both!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cleon Skousen was a loon.

He was your mentor?

All should look up and study Cleon's strange LDS life and narrative. An FBI agent whom Hoover despised. A Salt Lake City police chief who did a poor job. A Brigham Young University professor who was quite entertaining in the class room.

And a true believer in the John Birch Society, communists under every bed in America, and the elders of Zion (Mormon leaders) would save the Constitution when it will hang by a thread. He was despised and considered a crank by most conservative.

He is a hero to Porker, Avatar4321, and tyroneweaver and Glenn Beck.

W. Cleon Skousen - RationalWiki

 

[CowboyTed]

"CURRENT COMMUNIST (DEMOCRAT) GOALS"

Please seek out the mental health treatment you so clearly need.

I was at the meeting , we are going to turn Vigilante in a gay...

 

[Vigilante]

Cleon Skousen was a loon.

He was your mentor?

All should look up and study Cleon's strange LDS life and narrative. An FBI agent whom Hoover despised. A Salt Lake City police chief who did a poor job. A Brigham Young University professor who was quite entertaining in the class room.

And a true believer in the John Birch Society, communists under every bed in America, and the elders of Zion (Mormon leaders) would save the Constitution when it will hang by a thread. He was despised and considered a crank by most conservative.

He is a hero to Porker, Avatar4321, and tyroneweaver and Glenn Beck.

W. Cleon Skousen - RationalWiki

Good men, all you mention, true patriots, unlike you who has Stalin tattooed on his Left arm and a copy of "The Manchurian Candidate" in your Betamax player!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Willard Cleon Skousen (1913-2006) was a Mormon author, an FBI clerk (1940-1951)[1], and a professor at Brigham Young University from 1951-1955 and 1967-1978. In between he had a brief stint as police chief of Salt Lake City until he was fired for being overzealous in cracking down on poker games and busted one that the mayor just happened to be a participant in.

His 1981 book The Five Thousand Year Leap has recently become a bestseller 28 years after the fact because of heavy promotion by Glenn Beck. It was recently republished in a new edition with an introduction written by Beck. In 2014, the book was being used in at least one publicly-funded charter school, Heritage Academy in Mesa, Arizona, which is run by Skousen's cronies.[2]

He was otherwise best known for several books on Mormon theology, and for two books, The Naked Communist and The Naked Capitalist, which were popular in John Birch Society circles and promoted a conspiratorial view of Communism. The latter of those books was Skousen's interpretation of Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope and asserted that wealthy capitalist families such as the Rockefellers were in league with an international socialist conspiracy to control the world. Quigley has distanced himself from Skousen's interpretation of Tragedy and Hope as inaccurate and saying things Quigley never meant.

Among the most popular of Skousen's Mormon books are a series setting out the history of the world through what is essentially a Mormon version of young earth creationism: The First Two Thousand Years, The Third Thousand Years, andThe Fourth Thousand Years.

W. Cleon Skousen - RationalWiki

 

[Vigilante]

Willard Cleon Skousen (1913-2006) was a Mormon author, an FBI clerk (1940-1951)[1], and a professor at Brigham Young University from 1951-1955 and 1967-1978. In between he had a brief stint as police chief of Salt Lake City until he was fired for being overzealous in cracking down on poker games and busted one that the mayor just happened to be a participant in.

His 1981 book The Five Thousand Year Leap has recently become a bestseller 28 years after the fact because of heavy promotion by Glenn Beck. It was recently republished in a new edition with an introduction written by Beck. In 2014, the book was being used in at least one publicly-funded charter school, Heritage Academy in Mesa, Arizona, which is run by Skousen's cronies.[2]

He was otherwise best known for several books on Mormon theology, and for two books, The Naked Communist and The Naked Capitalist, which were popular in John Birch Society circles and promoted a conspiratorial view of Communism. The latter of those books was Skousen's interpretation of Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope and asserted that wealthy capitalist families such as the Rockefellers were in league with an international socialist conspiracy to control the world. Quigley has distanced himself from Skousen's interpretation of Tragedy and Hope as inaccurate and saying things Quigley never meant.

Among the most popular of Skousen's Mormon books are a series setting out the history of the world through what is essentially a Mormon version of young earth creationism: The First Two Thousand Years, The Third Thousand Years, andThe Fourth Thousand Years.

W. Cleon Skousen - RationalWiki

Congratulations.... you've acquired the skill of C&P.... Rather hard for you on the left to accomplish! I see your car gives away your true feelings!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Skousen would have nothing to do with Trump, and he would consider folks who were "conservatives" to be turncoats and fair weather patriots for supporting the Donald.

 

[Vigilante]

Skousen would have nothing to do with Trump, and he would consider folks who were "conservatives" to be turncoats and fair weather patriots for supporting the Donald.

Apparently the JakeAss knew Skousen personally to be able to put words in his mouth.... This should make you about 98 years old, JakeAss, and SENILE as all get out... We've discovered your problem!

 

[Avatar4321]

Why are liberals the only ones upset over the list? The OP doesn't mention them.

Liberals don't care for propaganda, which is what V posted.

If that was true, you guys would never say anything. Cause all you say is propaganda.

 

[Avatar4321]

Why are liberals the only ones upset over the list? The OP doesn't mention them.

Liberals don't care for propaganda, which is what V posted.

After OVER 50 years I'd wager 90% or so of them are VALID when you compare them to current REGIME standards!

They weren't valid to begin with. The same old rantings of reactionary old white men...

Bernie Sanders will be glad to here about reactionary old white men... Damn, you really are the dumbest of the dumb, leaving me a perfect shot!

He's a loon like Cleon, and you. He's just socialist, which makes him a far more decent human being.

How decent were Stalin and Hitler?

Or should we forget.they were both socialists of one form or another?

 

[bedowin62]

the funny part about Progressive morons is that they insist they are as they define themselves; what the dictionary says it means; their record of FAILURE aside.......................................

 

[Searcher44]

January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

DAMN, THIS is truly a scary read, now check off how many are STILL CURRENT from those that BOO GOD!

You seem to be susceptible to Right Wing fear-mongering, even ancient demonstrations of the McCarthyesque "Red Scare" like this one from 1963 which you deem "a truly scary read". I'd guess you see these adversaries as existential threats to your person as well as your country. And I'm pretty sure Muslims would be on your fear list. Who else? Blacks? Illegals? This tactic of ratcheting up fear of "the other" is what got you guys into the insanely costly and unnecessary war in Iraq. And you keep falling for it, even promoting it. I'm not sure you really believe this shit but either way it puts you and your ilk on the list of real dangers to America.

Also;

You should know the statement in that cutesy poster is an outright brazen lie. You know that Democrats, like every other sane person in America, believe that all lives matter. Maybe you like millions of others are just too stupid to see the not-so-subtle implication in the slogan "Black Lives Matter". It's a given and goes without saying that white lives matter. Black people on the other hand, after centuries of evidence to the contrary that still sows doubt are not yet sure that as high a majority of White people feel in the deepest recesses of their soul that Black lives have just as high intrinsic value. Divisive propaganda like this bullshit poster is one of the factors that keep racism alive and well in America.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This old lie? That's what it is BTW. The guy was a Mormon fruitcake, which is why they kicked him out of the FBI and then kept an eye on him for the rest of his life. All of the above on his list is made up crap, from his paranoid tiny mind...

Exactly which items on that list do you not personally support and promote?

 

[bedowin62]

it's hilarious how the Left isnt aware that their page-long denials of things they are gulity of make the case for the other side. OF COURSE the Left does NOT believe all lives matter; at least not the Black Lives Matter movement. If they did they wouldnt have booed off the stage people saying all lives matter.

the loser Left is always trying to have it both ways

 

[bedowin62]

When you IGNORE SIX THOUSAND MURDERED BLACK AMERICANS each and every year, AND DEMAND PEOPLE APOLOGIZE for saying all lives matter; nobody is going to believe you really do believe all lives matter, no matter how many 100-lines crybaby whines you put up on a message board

 

[JakeStarkey]

Skousen would have nothing to do with Trump, and he would consider folks who were "conservatives" to be turncoats and fair weather patriots for supporting the Donald.

Apparently the JakeAss knew Skousen personally to be able to put words in his mouth.... This should make you about 98 years old, JakeAss, and SENILE as all get out... We've discovered your problem!

Your problem is that you don't read in depth and context. That has always been obvious. It is obvious you don't understand Mormon-John Birch neo-theology. They find progressive statism abhorent: thus Trump would be a no no to them and those "conservatives" who support him are cowards to the ideology of True America.

Vigilante is a cultural mccarthyite, meaning he is an opportunitist not a member of the ideology of conservatism. Nothing more than a fair weather patriot supposedly on the right.

 

[bedowin62]

nobody gives a flying phuk about "Mormon-John Birch neo-theology"

i just dont get the self-impressed dorks that post here

 

[PaintMyHouse]

This old lie? That's what it is BTW. The guy was a Mormon fruitcake, which is why they kicked him out of the FBI and then kept an eye on him for the rest of his life. All of the above on his list is made up crap, from his paranoid tiny mind...

Exactly which items on that list do you not personally support and promote?

I'm down with these, how about you?

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

 

[David_42]

Anyone who agrees with this thread is a verified nutcase.

 

[Vigilante]

January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

DAMN, THIS is truly a scary read, now check off how many are STILL CURRENT from those that BOO GOD!

You seem to be susceptible to Right Wing fear-mongering, even ancient demonstrations of the McCarthyesque "Red Scare" like this one from 1963 which you deem "a truly scary read". I'd guess you see these adversaries as existential threats to your person as well as your country. And I'm pretty sure Muslims would be on your fear list. Who else? Blacks? Illegals? This tactic of ratcheting up fear of "the other" is what got you guys into the insanely costly and unnecessary war in Iraq. And you keep falling for it, even promoting it. I'm not sure you really believe this shit but either way it puts you and your ilk on the list of real dangers to America.

Also;

You should know the statement in that cutesy poster is an outright brazen lie. You know that Democrats, like every other sane person in America, believe that all lives matter. Maybe you like millions of others are just too stupid to see the not-so-subtle implication in the slogan "Black Lives Matter". It's a given and goes without saying that white lives matter. Black people on the other hand, after centuries of evidence to the contrary that still sows doubt are not yet sure that as high a majority of White people feel in the deepest recesses of their soul that Black lives have just as high intrinsic value. Divisive propaganda like this bullshit poster is one of the factors that keep racism alive and well in America.

Oh LOOK!!! We have a Canadian Liberal that will teach us that Conservatism is wrong and Communism/Socialism/DemocRATS are right.... Another 2 digit IQ'd freak foreigner that has his head up his ass... I like you, you'll be FUN to fuck with!