Creator Of Infamous "Hope" Poster Lashes Out At Obama

[Freewill]

From you link.:

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

• People with jobs are employed.
• People who are jobless, looking for jobs, and available for work are unemployed.
• People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

Who is counted as employed?

Employed persons consist of:

• All persons who did any work for pay or profit during the survey reference week.
• All persons who did at least 15 hours of unpaid work in a family-owned enterprise operated by someone in their household.
• All persons who were temporarily absent from their regular jobs, whether they were paid or not.

Not all of the wide range of job situations in the American economy fit neatly into a given category. For example, people are considered employed if they did any work at all for pay or profit during the survey reference week. This includes all part-time and temporary work, as well as regular full-time, year-round employment. Persons also are counted as employed if they have a job at which they did not work during the survey week because they were:

• On vacation
• Ill
• Experiencing child-care problems
• Taking care of some other family or personal obligation
• On maternity or paternity leave
• Involved in an industrial dispute
• Prevented from working by bad weather

Who is counted as unemployed?
Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work.

Workers expecting to be recalled from layoff are counted as unemployed, whether or not they have engaged in a specific jobseeking activity. In all other cases, the individual must have been engaged in at least one active job search activity in the 4 weeks preceding the interview and be available for work (except for temporary illness).

Who is not in the labor force?
Persons not in the labor force are those who are not classified as employed or unemployed during the survey reference week.

Labor force measures are based on the civilian noninstitutional population 16 years old and over. (Excluded are persons under 16 years of age, all persons confined to institutions such as nursing homes and prisons, and persons on active duty in the Armed Forces.) The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed. The remainder—those who have no job and are not looking for one—are counted as "not in the labor force." Many who are not in the labor force are going to school or are retired. Family responsibilities keep others out of the labor force

From the following site:

It is important to distinguish between the percentage of people who are unemployed and those who are simply not working. Some people may be in school full-time, working in the home, disabled, or retired. These people are not considered part of the labor force and are therefore not included in the unemployment rate. Only those people actively looking for a job or waiting to return to a job are considered unemployed.

Unemployment Rate Definition Example Investing Answers

Think about it, the labor force only includes those who can and are willing to work. Someone in assisted living is not obviously counted but how far does that go?.... The answer is retirement.

OK take away the 64 year part it still holds that those retired are not counted at any age. Only those seniors looking for employment are counted.

 

[pinqy]

From you link.:

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

• People with jobs are employed.
• People who are jobless, looking for jobs, and available for work are unemployed.
• People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

Who is counted as employed?

Employed persons consist of:

• All persons who did any work for pay or profit during the survey reference week.
• All persons who did at least 15 hours of unpaid work in a family-owned enterprise operated by someone in their household.
• All persons who were temporarily absent from their regular jobs, whether they were paid or not.

Not all of the wide range of job situations in the American economy fit neatly into a given category. For example, people are considered employed if they did any work at all for pay or profit during the survey reference week. This includes all part-time and temporary work, as well as regular full-time, year-round employment. Persons also are counted as employed if they have a job at which they did not work during the survey week because they were:

• On vacation
• Ill
• Experiencing child-care problems
• Taking care of some other family or personal obligation
• On maternity or paternity leave
• Involved in an industrial dispute
• Prevented from working by bad weather

Who is counted as unemployed?
Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work.

Workers expecting to be recalled from layoff are counted as unemployed, whether or not they have engaged in a specific jobseeking activity. In all other cases, the individual must have been engaged in at least one active job search activity in the 4 weeks preceding the interview and be available for work (except for temporary illness).

Who is not in the labor force?
Persons not in the labor force are those who are not classified as employed or unemployed during the survey reference week.

Labor force measures are based on the civilian noninstitutional population 16 years old and over. (Excluded are persons under 16 years of age, all persons confined to institutions such as nursing homes and prisons, and persons on active duty in the Armed Forces.) The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed. The remainder—those who have no job and are not looking for one—are counted as "not in the labor force." Many who are not in the labor force are going to school or are retired. Family responsibilities keep others out of the labor force

From the following site:

It is important to distinguish between the percentage of people who are unemployed and those who are simply not working. Some people may be in school full-time, working in the home, disabled, or retired. These people are not considered part of the labor force and are therefore not included in the unemployment rate. Only those people actively looking for a job or waiting to return to a job are considered unemployed.

Unemployment Rate Definition Example Investing Answers

Think about it, the labor force only includes those who can and are willing to work. Someone in assisted living is not obviously counted but how far does that go?.... The answer is retirement.

OK take away the 64 year part it still holds that those retired are not counted at any age. Only those seniors looking for employment are counted.

Right. So now do you see how an aginig population affects the Labor Force Participation Rate? The Participation Rate is Labor Force divided by Population. So as people retire, they leave the Labor Force (the numerator) but are still in the denominator...the population. So the rate becomes lower.

 

[Freewill]

From you link.:

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

• People with jobs are employed.
• People who are jobless, looking for jobs, and available for work are unemployed.
• People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

Who is counted as employed?

Employed persons consist of:

• All persons who did any work for pay or profit during the survey reference week.
• All persons who did at least 15 hours of unpaid work in a family-owned enterprise operated by someone in their household.
• All persons who were temporarily absent from their regular jobs, whether they were paid or not.

Not all of the wide range of job situations in the American economy fit neatly into a given category. For example, people are considered employed if they did any work at all for pay or profit during the survey reference week. This includes all part-time and temporary work, as well as regular full-time, year-round employment. Persons also are counted as employed if they have a job at which they did not work during the survey week because they were:

• On vacation
• Ill
• Experiencing child-care problems
• Taking care of some other family or personal obligation
• On maternity or paternity leave
• Involved in an industrial dispute
• Prevented from working by bad weather

Who is counted as unemployed?
Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work.

Workers expecting to be recalled from layoff are counted as unemployed, whether or not they have engaged in a specific jobseeking activity. In all other cases, the individual must have been engaged in at least one active job search activity in the 4 weeks preceding the interview and be available for work (except for temporary illness).

Who is not in the labor force?
Persons not in the labor force are those who are not classified as employed or unemployed during the survey reference week.

Labor force measures are based on the civilian noninstitutional population 16 years old and over. (Excluded are persons under 16 years of age, all persons confined to institutions such as nursing homes and prisons, and persons on active duty in the Armed Forces.) The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed. The remainder—those who have no job and are not looking for one—are counted as "not in the labor force." Many who are not in the labor force are going to school or are retired. Family responsibilities keep others out of the labor force

From the following site:

It is important to distinguish between the percentage of people who are unemployed and those who are simply not working. Some people may be in school full-time, working in the home, disabled, or retired. These people are not considered part of the labor force and are therefore not included in the unemployment rate. Only those people actively looking for a job or waiting to return to a job are considered unemployed.

Unemployment Rate Definition Example Investing Answers

Think about it, the labor force only includes those who can and are willing to work. Someone in assisted living is not obviously counted but how far does that go?.... The answer is retirement.

OK take away the 64 year part it still holds that those retired are not counted at any age. Only those seniors looking for employment are counted.

Right. So now do you see how an aginig population affects the Labor Force Participation Rate? The Participation Rate is Labor Force divided by Population. So as people retire, they leave the Labor Force (the numerator) but are still in the denominator...the population. So the rate becomes lower.

The problem is that the aging population is NOT adding to the low participation rate. Whether or not i have it exactly right. You can see on the chart from the BLS that the participation rate of seniors has INCREASED not decreased. Here is an article that really explains the statistics.

U.S. Unemployment Retirees Are Not The Labor Exodus Problem - Forbes

 

[JoeB131]

Wait a second, I thought the excuse for Obama abandoning Iraq was that GWB agreed to the withdraw time table. Now you are saying it was just "cleaning up a mess?" Really? What is wrong with you people. I guess it is OK if a person is killed as an adviser in liberal land. Never the less you said that the US is out, we are not. Again your propagandists at the DNC are lying to you.

dumbass, it would really help if you learned to use the quote feature properly.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Seven years of failure and you left wing retards still have nothing but blaming other people for the failures of this slimy asshole who can't accomplish jack shit or make anything better only worse. His only "accomplishment" is making his moron supporters keep trying to defend his obvious failures. And you idiots keep towing that line.

 

[JoeB131]

Seven years of failure and you left wing retards still have nothing but blaming other people for the failures of this slimy asshole who can't accomplish jack shit or make anything better only worse. His only "accomplishment" is making his moron supporters keep trying to defend his obvious failures. And you idiots keep towing that line.

Stop talking about George W. Bush like that!

 

[Pete7469]

LMAO

-Geaux
============

Before the people realized that behind the "most transparent administration ever" there was nothing but double seasonal adjustments, drones and an impenetrable layer of propaganda and lies, there was...



And change, of course.

Sadly, at some point over the past six years the hope died, first for the people (if not the bankers), and then for the creator of the infamous "Hope" poster himself, Shepard Fairey who told Esquire magazine in an interview that Obama has not come even close to embodying the break with the past administration that Fairey and so many voters hoped he would.

"I mean, drones and domestic spying are the last things I would have thought [he'd support]."

Creator Of Infamous Hope Poster Lashes Out At Obama Calls Americans Ignorant And Lazy Zero Hedge

I can't believe there were that many people stupid enough to fall for it, at least with that much devotion and blindness.

I briefly thought the boob might try and do things that benefited the lower/middle class because he was still new to the DC machine, but he proved worse than anyone could have imagined for everyone's interest except the people who finance the DC machine. Hitlary would have been a little better because she at least doesn't hate white people.

Seriously though, remember the God-like reverb at his events, the bogus "fainting", and rock star imagery? It was obvious they were doing their damnest to create this "hero of the people" or as I refer to him a "moonbat messiah". Now some of these tools are shocked... SHOCKED... to find out this psuedointellectual incompetent stuttering muppet doesn't compare with the phony image they created.

Go figure... If anything they should have been shocked if he managed too accomplish anything good for the country.

 

[Pete7469]

Never been a more hyped guy that accomplished less in human history.

Accomplished less? Just to be fair he accomplished NOTHING that served the interest of the country. His two terms will go down as a period of stagnation, malaise, cultural decline and global chaos. Don't be suprised if there is another severe recession before it's over.

Also instead of it being one man in the WH who's responsible for it as we were told in 2008, it will be congressional republicrats who's blood the moonbat media will call for if it happens again in 2016.

 

[Stephanie]

Read it and we all should be weeping

snip:
After Six Years of Obamanomics: Five Things You Need to Know



SNIP:
After six years of Obamanomics, here are five things you need to know:

1.) Worst Recovery Ever



When Obama’s non recovery is compared to Reagan’s, there’s no contest!

As already noted by the GWP, the Obama economic recovery is dismal when compared to Reagan’s. Ronald Reagan’s economic plan saw GDP surge at a 3.5% clip – 4.9% after the recession. That’s a 32% bump. During the Obama years, thanks to his big government policies, the US economy has stalled. The US economy has grown an anemic 9.6% during the Obama years (excluding the 1st Quarter 2015’s dismal number). With the 1st Quarter of 2015 GDP declining at -0.7%, Obama has the lowest average 1st Quarter GDP growth of any president in history. In addition, using the number of jobs recovered after the recession as the measurement, then Obama’s recovery is the worst recovery ever.

2.) Worst Labor Participation Ever

After Six Years of Obamanomics: Five Things You Need to Know

 

[Pete7469]

Read it and we all should be weeping

snip:
After Six Years of Obamanomics: Five Things You Need to Know



SNIP:
After six years of Obamanomics, here are five things you need to know:

1.) Worst Recovery Ever



When Obama’s non recovery is compared to Reagan’s, there’s no contest!

As already noted by the GWP, the Obama economic recovery is dismal when compared to Reagan’s. Ronald Reagan’s economic plan saw GDP surge at a 3.5% clip – 4.9% after the recession. That’s a 32% bump. During the Obama years, thanks to his big government policies, the US economy has stalled. The US economy has grown an anemic 9.6% during the Obama years (excluding the 1st Quarter 2015’s dismal number). With the 1st Quarter of 2015 GDP declining at -0.7%, Obama has the lowest average 1st Quarter GDP growth of any president in history. In addition, using the number of jobs recovered after the recession as the measurement, then Obama’s recovery is the worst recovery ever.

2.) Worst Labor Participation Ever

After Six Years of Obamanomics: Five Things You Need to Know

If I were Nancy Reagan I would sue TIME for publishing that repulsive cover.

 

[Misty]

And just how is that Hopey Changie thing workin out for ya?

Let's see now.

Unemployment is down to 5.4%
Dow is up to 18,000
We are out of Iraq and Afghanistan
We have universal health care and my insurance carrier can't cancel my coverage for a pre-existing condition.

I'd say, working out pretty good.

We don't have universal health care. We are mandated to get healthcare big difference. And health insurers can't cancel you but they can raise your copay so you can't afford treatment. Fail number one.

We are not out of Iraq or Afghanistan. They are still shipping our military there. Fail number two.

Unemployment is down cuz less people are looking for work. Fail number three.

The Dow is up because the government is printing money and pumping it into the stock market. Quantitive easing. It's a false and fake way to make the economy look strong. Fail number four.

 

[francoHFW]

Pub dupes are for their party first, they want the country to fail under a Dem president, especially a black one... 60% racist brainwashed chumps of the DISASTROUS greedy idiot rich GOP. Sorry about your luck, ugly American fools...

 

[francoHFW]

Drones and domestic spying (with a warrant) are necessary evils. Poor artiste will recover...helluva lot better than worst wars ever and a corrupt world depression... He's not perfect, just better than any President since FDR...WITH a mindless GOP blocking 90% of solutions...

 

[francoHFW]

And just how is that Hopey Changie thing workin out for ya?

Let's see now.

Unemployment is down to 5.4%
Dow is up to 18,000
We are out of Iraq and Afghanistan
We have universal health care and my insurance carrier can't cancel my coverage for a pre-existing condition.

I'd say, working out pretty good.

We don't have universal health care. We are mandated to get healthcare big difference. And health insurers can't cancel you but they can raise your copay so you can't afford treatment. Fail number one.

We are not out of Iraq or Afghanistan. They are still shipping our military there. Fail number two.

Unemployment is down cuz less people are looking for work. Fail number three.

The Dow is up because the government is printing money and pumping it into the stock market. Quantitive easing. It's a false and fake way to make the economy look strong. Fail number four.

There's an out of pocket limit, and ACA isn't implemented fully yet, plus you're FOS in general, Pub dupe.

 

[hortysir]

In reality:

The real (U6) unemployment rate is over 10%. Chart What s the real unemployment rate Or maybe over 15%. Can we even tell? At this point, what difference does it make? Jobs The Real Unemployment Rate Please Anyone - Forbes

Guy, you can't drag up a new number because the number we've been using for 80 years doesn't say what you want.

Dow is up; the multitude of low income stock holders are very happy about this.

Yes, it is. Thanks Obama. It went from 6000, where Bush had allowed it to crash to, to 18K.

We have turned our backs on Iraq and Afghanistan. We are waiting for an adult to clean up the resulting mess.

Uh, guy, if the Iraqis and Afghanis don't give a fuck about their democracy or freedom, why should we?

Money has been extorted from everyone paying for heath care through higher premiums and deductibles so that some who could not afford heath care could undeservingly get it. Adults are needed to clean this up, too.

Reality always trumps illusion.

Uh, guy, everyone deserves health coverage. The notion that poor children should die of treatable diseases because it might cut into the profits of a big greedy insurance company is insane.

Funny how the U6 gets pulled by the left when it's against the right

So now you're happy that the 1% is making more money

We're still in Afghanistan and Iraq and about to send more to Iraq.
Wonder if that Nobel peace prize is choking him yet.

Everyone may deserve whatever. Doesn't mean they should be forced to have it

 

[pinqy]

The real (U6) unemployment rate is over 10%. Chart What s the real unemployment rate

The U6 includes people who have jobs, including full time jobs, but who worked part time involuntarily for as little as one week, in the numerator. Are you saying that these people are "really" unemployed?
The U6 does NOT measure the same thing as the U3. You can't compare them saying one is "real" and the other not.

Or maybe over 15%. Can we even tell? At this point, what difference does it make? Jobs The Real Unemployment Rate Please Anyone - Forbes

Now this one is fascinating. Not only is he adding in people who have jobs as "really unemployed" he's adding in people WHO DON'T WANT TO WORK as "really unemployed. His "additional unemployed workers is 7.9 million. But in November 2014 there were only 6.6 million who wanted to work and were not already classified as unemployed.



Dow is up; the multitude of low income stock holders are very happy about this.
We have turned our backs on Iraq and Afghanistan. We are waiting for an adult to clean up the resulting mess.
Money has been extorted from everyone paying for heath care through higher premiums and deductibles so that some who could not afford heath care could undeservingly get it. Adults are needed to clean this up, too.

Reality always trumps illusion.[/QUOTE]

 

[Borillar]

This guy is saying Obama was not liberal enough

Is that what the right is celebrating?

Indeed. They seem to be complaining that he is continuing republican policies

Probably about as disappointed as every other supporter as a president has been when the president's ideals meets reality.

Hey, remember when Bush-43 said "Nation Building" was a bad thing

Or Bush-41 said, "Read my lips, no new taxes!"

Obama blows, therefore Booosh

Yeah, never heard that one before

Yeah, and the right wing insistence that history started with Obama - hear that every day.

 

[Andylusion]

This guy is saying Obama was not liberal enough

Is that what the right is celebrating?

Indeed. They seem to be complaining that he is continuing republican policies

Probably about as disappointed as every other supporter as a president has been when the president's ideals meets reality.

Hey, remember when Bush-43 said "Nation Building" was a bad thing

Or Bush-41 said, "Read my lips, no new taxes!"

Obama blows, therefore Booosh

Yeah, never heard that one before

Yeah, and the right wing insistence that history started with Obama - hear that every day.

And the left-wing insists that after 7 years, absolutely nothing can possibly be Obama's fault, no matter what did because "BUUUUUSH".

 

[FA_Q2]

This guy is saying Obama was not liberal enough

Is that what the right is celebrating?

Indeed. They seem to be complaining that he is continuing republican policies

Probably about as disappointed as every other supporter as a president has been when the president's ideals meets reality.

Hey, remember when Bush-43 said "Nation Building" was a bad thing

Or Bush-41 said, "Read my lips, no new taxes!"

Obama blows, therefore Booosh

Yeah, never heard that one before

Yeah, and the right wing insistence that history started with Obama - hear that every day.

I know that is one of my chief complaints with Obama.

Tell me, now that you realize he has continued many of the policies of the ‘worst president ever’ by many leftist standards – why do you think that Obama is a decent president let alone a good one?

 

[Truth2Know]

The real (U6) unemployment rate is over 10%. Chart What s the real unemployment rate

The U6 includes people who have jobs, including full time jobs, but who worked part time involuntarily for as little as one week, in the numerator. Are you saying that these people are "really" unemployed?
The U6 does NOT measure the same thing as the U3. You can't compare them saying one is "real" and the other not.

Or maybe over 15%. Can we even tell? At this point, what difference does it make? Jobs The Real Unemployment Rate Please Anyone - Forbes

Now this one is fascinating. Not only is he adding in people who have jobs as "really unemployed" he's adding in people WHO DON'T WANT TO WORK as "really unemployed. His "additional unemployed workers is 7.9 million. But in November 2014 there were only 6.6 million who wanted to work and were not already classified as unemployed.



Dow is up; the multitude of low income stock holders are very happy about this.
We have turned our backs on Iraq and Afghanistan. We are waiting for an adult to clean up the resulting mess.
Money has been extorted from everyone paying for heath care through higher premiums and deductibles so that some who could not afford heath care could undeservingly get it. Adults are needed to clean this up, too.

Reality always trumps illusion.

[/QUOTE]

Of course U6 does not measure the same thing as the U3. If it did, it would be the U3, right?

Here's the U6 definition: U6 unemployment rate - Dictionary The Opportune Time "The percentage of the labor force that does not have a job, or is part-time employed and would like full-time employment. Unlike U3, the U6 unemployment rate expands the definition of the labor force to include "discouraged workers," or people without jobs who have given up looking for work; "marginally attached workers," or people without jobs who would like to work but have not sought employment recently; and part-time workers who would like to be employed full-time."

Why do you find it fascinating that people so discouraged with trying to find a suitable job have given up? Or that people who would like a full time job have to settle for a part time job? I find this sad.

Just using the U3, and in fact a diluted U3 that removes discouraged, non-job seeking people from the labor force, does not fully describe the state of employment in the USA. The U6 is a much more telling metric. And here's what it tells us, if you are willing to listen: Current U-6 Unemployment Rate "For May 2015 the official U-6 unemployment rate remained steady at 10.4% from April to May. But the independently produced Gallup equivalent called the “Underemployment Rate” rose from 14.8% to 14.9%."

At this point, Greece would like to have U6 numbers like this, but Americans should demand much lower U6 numbers. Especially the discouraged and underemployed ones.