Could we put the lies about Biden to bed now?

[The Original Tree]

I think right wingers don't particularly care if he's actually guilty or not. They think he's bad and they want their person to win, so they'll instigate and throw shit around regardless. It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

As it stands no, HE IS NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING.

 

[berg80]

I think right wingers don't particularly care if he's actually guilty or not. They think he's bad and they want their person to win, so they'll instigate and throw shit around regardless. It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

As it stands no, HE IS NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING.

So............the sky is not blue. Got it.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”
Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance
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Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says

A former Ukrainian prosecutor who investigated a gas company tied to Hunter Biden said Thursday that there was no evidence the former vice president's son engaged in illegal activity.

"From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” Yuriy Lutsenko told The Washington Post.
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Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine
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Is there any evidence Old Joe pushed to have Shokin removed because of his kid's involvement with Burisma? No. How could there be since Shokin was not investigating Burisma? A fact that contributed to Shokin's dismissal demanded by the EU and the IMF for NOT adequately investigating corruption in Ukraine.

All the facts in evidence point to Trump's demand that an announcement be made the Bidens were being investigated by Ukraine had nothing to do with a realistic expectation anything nefarious would be found. Rather, Ukraine's acquiescence to conduct an investigation was what Don wanted because he knew it was enough to smear Biden.

Trump's belief has been borne out. Even though no investigation was launched and no evidence of wrongdoing exists millions of gullible rubes have it in their easily manipulated heads Biden is guilty of something............based on unsubstantiated innuendo.

Ok fine, let’s decide that Biden and his son did nothing wrong. But you can’t disagree that on the surface it looks bad. Consider- The son of the Vice President is over paid to do a job he is not qualified for by a foreign company, so on the surface it should be at least investigated to make sure there is no funny business here. And that should have been done by BO since it was on his watch, but now that Trump wants to investigate the apparent funny business, you democrats want to impeach him. Answer me this, if BO had asked Ukraine what Trump had asked Ukraine, would you want to impeach BO. OF COURSE NOT.

 

[theHawk]

We all know now that it is a high crime to expose the corruption of the left.

First it was Hillary and DNC emails. Now the Hussein bin Biden regime.

This is why President Trump must be removed from office.

 

[Crepitus]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

Except thats not really what happened.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

Is it? What shit have Dems been throwing around about Trump that isn't legit?

I’ll answer that. The whole impeachment over Ukraine is complete shit.

 

[The Original Tree]

We are already planning The Impeachment of the Next Democrat President which will occur either in 2024, or 2032.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

Except thats not really what happened.

5 years @ $50k per month = $3 million

 

[jknowgood]

It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

Is it? What shit have Dems been throwing around about Trump that isn't legit?

Russia collusion
Obstruction
Extortion
Emoluments violations
Bribery
Campaign violations
Money laundering
Tax evasion
Soliciting a foreign power to aid his campaign and smear an opponent

Show us actual crimes listed in Moscow Mueller's Reports and Proven to have occurred, not from your Putin's Wish List.

 

[jknowgood]

I think right wingers don't particularly care if he's actually guilty or not. They think he's bad and they want their person to win, so they'll instigate and throw shit around regardless. It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

As it stands no, HE IS NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING.

So............the sky is not blue. Got it.

Tell exactly what is Trump guilty of.

 

[The Original Tree]

I think right wingers don't particularly care if he's actually guilty or not. They think he's bad and they want their person to win, so they'll instigate and throw shit around regardless. It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

As it stands no, HE IS NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING.

So............the sky is not blue. Got it.

The so called one sided impeachment inquiry is first off illegal the way it is being conducted and denies Due Process.

But let's for sake of argument say it is being done by The Book, and The House reaches a "BIPARTISAN" decision that The President should have Articles of Impeachment Written on him.

He is still not guilty. Articles of Impeachment are NOTHING BUT ACCUSATIONS.

The President is Presumed Innocent.

It is in THE SENATE where DUE PROCESS MUST BE GUARANTEED where it is decided if the charges Pelosi wants to accuse The President of has any merit at all or if they should be tossed out and The President Exonerated.

The President is Innocent, and a Verdict of Not Guilty will be rendered in The Senate.

I personally don't think you guys on The Left thought this through, or realized that The House leveling charges at The President are nothing but a formalization of accusations, and are not an indication of guilt.

You've been accusing The President informally since he was elected in The Media and telling everyone you were going to impeach him since Nov 2016, if you could just find something to impeach him on.

America does not Presume Guilt first and then look for Evidence to come to a Biased and Predrawn Conclusion.

That is Ass Backwards.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

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[Crepitus]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

Except thats not really what happened.

5 years @ $50k per month = $3 million

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And nothing to do with Joe.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”
Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance
...................................................................................................................................................
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says

A former Ukrainian prosecutor who investigated a gas company tied to Hunter Biden said Thursday that there was no evidence the former vice president's son engaged in illegal activity.

"From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” Yuriy Lutsenko told The Washington Post.
....................................................................................................................................................
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine
......................................................................................................................................
Is there any evidence Old Joe pushed to have Shokin removed because of his kid's involvement with Burisma? No. How could there be since Shokin was not investigating Burisma? A fact that contributed to Shokin's dismissal demanded by the EU and the IMF for NOT adequately investigating corruption in Ukraine.

All the facts in evidence point to Trump's demand that an announcement be made the Bidens were being investigated by Ukraine had nothing to do with a realistic expectation anything nefarious would be found. Rather, Ukraine's acquiescence to conduct an investigation was what Don wanted because he knew it was enough to smear Biden.

Trump's belief has been borne out. Even though no investigation was launched and no evidence of wrongdoing exists millions of gullible rubes have it in their easily manipulated heads Biden is guilty of something............based on unsubstantiated innuendo.

/—-/ Here's your front runner. Ain’t ya proud?

Paul Crookston - DECEMBER 5, 2019 2:25 PM

Former vice president Joe Biden on Thursday could not remember during which century the Obama administration took place, and also called a voter a "damn liar."

Speaking in New Hampton, Iowa, at a stop on his "No Malarkey" tour, Biden worked to recall the year the Obama administration signed an executive order, ending up with the year 1976.

Your attempt to deflect attention away from the point of the OP is noted.

\follow the money

 

[K9Buck]

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”
Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance
...................................................................................................................................................
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says

A former Ukrainian prosecutor who investigated a gas company tied to Hunter Biden said Thursday that there was no evidence the former vice president's son engaged in illegal activity.

"From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” Yuriy Lutsenko told The Washington Post.
....................................................................................................................................................
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine
......................................................................................................................................
Is there any evidence Old Joe pushed to have Shokin removed because of his kid's involvement with Burisma? No. How could there be since Shokin was not investigating Burisma? A fact that contributed to Shokin's dismissal demanded by the EU and the IMF for NOT adequately investigating corruption in Ukraine.

All the facts in evidence point to Trump's demand that an announcement be made the Bidens were being investigated by Ukraine had nothing to do with a realistic expectation anything nefarious would be found. Rather, Ukraine's acquiescence to conduct an investigation was what Don wanted because he knew it was enough to smear Biden.

Trump's belief has been borne out. Even though no investigation was launched and no evidence of wrongdoing exists millions of gullible rubes have it in their easily manipulated heads Biden is guilty of something............based on unsubstantiated innuendo.

/—-/ Here's your front runner. Ain’t ya proud?

Paul Crookston - DECEMBER 5, 2019 2:25 PM

Former vice president Joe Biden on Thursday could not remember during which century the Obama administration took place, and also called a voter a "damn liar."

Speaking in New Hampton, Iowa, at a stop on his "No Malarkey" tour, Biden worked to recall the year the Obama administration signed an executive order, ending up with the year 1976.

Your attempt to deflect attention away from the point of the OP is noted.

\follow the money

Some of which is probably going to the OP to post Democratic propaganda.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

Except thats not really what happened.

5 years @ $50k per month = $3 million

View attachment 293480

And nothing to do with Joe.

So you think Hunter gets that job if his last name is Crepitus instead of Biden? If so, I have some barely used lottery tickets I’d like to sell you.

 

[Desperado]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

Except thats not really what happened.

5 years @ $50k per month = $3 million

View attachment 293480

And nothing to do with Joe.

Right.... and you actually believe none of that money was funneled down to Joe?

 

[MACAULAY]

It's the same thing left wingers do in regard to Trump.

Is it? What shit have Dems been throwing around about Trump that isn't legit?

Russia collusion
Obstruction
Extortion
Emoluments violations
Bribery
Campaign violations
Money laundering
Tax evasion
Soliciting a foreign power to aid his campaign and smear an opponent

_________________________

 

[Thinker101]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

Except thats not really what happened.

5 years @ $50k per month = $3 million

View attachment 293480

And nothing to do with Joe.

Yep, I'm sure Hunter was hired to the board due to his intelligence and vast experience.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

No, not corrupt at all to funnel million of dollars to VPOTUS family

Except thats not really what happened.

5 years @ $50k per month = $3 million

View attachment 293480

And nothing to do with Joe.

Right.... and you actually believe none of that money was funneled down to Joe?

Actually I don’t believe any of that money ended up with Joe. I believe Hunter got the job and big paychecks to garner influence with the US government. There is no other reasonable explanation why Hunter gets that ‘job’.