Corporations would rather grow acquiring innovation than spend dollars on risky R&D

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    We are left with university researchers with specialized knowledge, and places like Pacific Northwest National Labs. We have military facilities like the Navy research labs at Carderock, NAVAIR Florida, and the Air Force’s Arnold Engineering Development Center. We also have medical schools and research hospitals, such as Johns Hopkins. Each is profoundly creative.

    We must not forget that NASA has been an incredibly prodigious generator of innovation for 50 years, as well as the granddaddy of great R&D sponsors, the Defense Advanced Research Project Administration (DARPA).

    The next time someone tells you that the government has no place funding innovation, think about what these institutions have produced and ask two things: Where would we be without these efforts? What company would have provided the long term, patient money for the entire process — from the fundamental science to the final commercialization?

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    When you point out the "Triple Helix" of "Universities, Business and Government" the right wing laughs. Remember, this is a group that believes "science is a faith, evolution a lie and Climate Change a conspiracy". Listening to them is listening to the Geico Man.

    Those in Asia refer to it as the "Golden Helix". Republicans call it a lie.
     
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    Duh!

    That's Microsoft's whole success story. Bill didn't code DOS. He bought it.
     
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    Chances are if it wasn't for ARPANET we wouldn't be having this exchange.
     
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    Gubmint R&D at it's finest.

    And they just gave it all away. Thanks to Al Gore.

    :lol:
     
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    I'm sorry you guys missed the point. If there is no "innovation" there is nothing for companies to "acquire". The entire point of the thread is how stupid it is to throw away government rather than work in a "partnership".

    "Gubmint". Something Republicans despise. It's why they will be the big losers. Instead of being part of the solution, they want to be servants of the rich. Only the rich will go to greener pastures. Who wants to hang out with "sheep"?
     
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    The USA pays for R & D, they give it to corporations for a song, who then big capital moves the production offshore when it comes time to get the advances into full scale production.

    That's not exactly working out for the taxpayers who paid for the breakthroughs, although I do not doubt that the researhers and capitalists who put it into production are thankful for the system.
     
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    So which is better? Giving it to corporations in the form of a license or a patent they can purchase, the way NASA does?

    Or just giving them money, the way Republicans want to? Because they are the magical "job creators". Almost like "Gods". They "create".

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-says-oil-companies-pay-nothing-gulf-drillin/
     
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    ARPANET

    Four computers were the first connected in the original ARPAnet. They were located in the respective computer research labs of UCLA (Honeywell DDP 516 computer), Stanford Research Institute (SDS-940 computer), UC Santa Barbara (IBM 360/75), and the University of Utah (DEC PDP-10).

    ARPAnet - The First Internet

    4 universities. Hmm, interesting.
     
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    Remember Eisenhower's warning about relying on the I posted in your helix thread?

    The problems you are talking about came about because government funding stifled innovation, and your solution to this is to spend more government money to fix things.

    And you wonder why everyone thinks you are an idiot.
     
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    How did government stifle innovation? Just another talking point you've been taught to memorize. No one thinks you are an idiot. It's something everyone already "knows".
     

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