Conservatives: Do You Give

[The Rabbi]

If all the cons on this thread dun give a flying fuck about GLBT people, why are you so agitated at the thought they'd have the same rights and dignity that you have?

They already have the same rights, exactly the same, as the rest of us. WHat they want are special rights. And that agitates me. And it should any other person.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I care about people. It's in my nature to want to make sure everyone around me is doing well.

Peoples sexual desires have no meaning beyond finding someone with the same desires.

As far as politics are conserned, the DADT is comical at best (I knew more gay sailors than Spanish sailors) Keeping gays from getting married is unConstitutional.

 

[rightwinger]

I think the general answer will be ...I don't care as long as I don't have to look at them

As long as gays lurk in the shadows and don't make waves they are acceptable. But to ask to openly and proudly serve in the Military or marry the person they love, conservatives start to get squeemish

 

[The Rabbi]

Who is keeping gays from getting married?

 

[rightwinger]

Who is keeping gays from getting married?

As I said....marry the person you love

 

[Two Thumbs]

You are an ignorant POS. I pity your loved ones.

OK..."POS", I will just take as an insult. That's a dead end. "Ignorant" implies that there is something that I don't know. Would you care to enlighten me?

Loved ones? None of my "loved ones" have AIDS. What is your point?

Unless you only know nine people on all of Planet Earth, odds are you know and perhaps even love someone who is GLBT, but you are unaware of their orientation. Doubtless, this is because due to your ignorance and hate, they fear telling you. Hating on the GLBT community is a bit like hating on all left-handed people; sooner or later, that shit will come back on you.

What no one ever discusses is that the lowest transmission rates for HIV are among lesbian women -- unless they are IV drug users, their risk of contracting HIV is very, very low. Gay men are next and the highest rate of transmission (new infections) is among heterosexuals. HIV is an any-bodily-fluid to blood virus; any tearing, no matter how minute, is sufficient for infection to take place.

This myth that "only gays get AIDS" is busy infecting an astounding number of heterosexuals, especially older adults. With less willingness to practice safe sex, less reliable information about STIs, longer sexual histories and more compromised general health, heterosexual Baby Boomers are at high, possibly the highest, risk.

And not for nothing, but there are now several deadly STIs and have been for some time in the US. A few more, like chlamdia, merely have the capacity to stunt lives. Believing that heterosexuality is some sort of magic bullet against infection is helping kill many Americans.....I suspect if we lost you, as disreputable as you seem to be, at least someone would be devastated.

So enough with the "nobody needs sexual health care but gays" already.

the 10% of humanity being gay is a falsehood myth (I'm not calling you a liar, you just beleived what you were told)

What Percentage of People are Homosexuals?

The truth is that this ten percent statistic comes from a report published more than 40 years ago — the famous 1948 study led by William Kinsey.6 The only problem with this report is that its findings were terribly flawed by the methodology used to collect the supposedly representative sample of the U.S. population.7

Why were his findings flawed? For several reasons, first and foremost being that approximately 25 percent of the 5,300 individuals Kinsey studied were prison inmates, "who by the nature of their confinement, couldn't have heterosexual intercourse." In addition, 44 percent of these inmates had had homosexual experiences while in prison.8 This was hardly a representative sample of the American population.

But there were other major flaws in the group selected for the research. Kinsey admitted that "several hundred male prostitutes" were used in his sample. This alone would make a major difference in his findings.9

What are the real figures as far as we can tell today? One recent study of men conducted between 1984 and 1987 by David Forman, the senior staff scientist at the Radcliffe Infirmary (Oxford, England), found that only 1.7 percent of the sample study had ever had homosexual intercourse.12 An even more recent study, conducted at the University of Chicago in 1989 and reported at the 1990 meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, resulted in a figure "less than 1% exclusively homosexual."13


Homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The number of people who identify as gay or lesbian—and the proportion of people who have same-sex sexual experiences—are difficult for researchers to estimate reliably for a variety of reasons.[4] In the modern West, major studies indicate a prevalence of 2% to 13% of the population.[5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15]


http://www.gendermatters.org.au/Pap... Percentages of Homosexuals and bisexuals.doc

In their book “After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Hatred and Fear of Homosexuals in the 90’s”, authors Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen (Plume, New York, 1990, pages 177-178) stated that the 10% homosexual and lesbian claim was a figure which the homosexual and lesbian lobby propagandists have been continually pumping into heterosexuals’ heads for many years. Kirk and Madsen wrote: “Based on their personal experience, most straights probably would put the gay population at 1% or 2% of the general population. Yet…when straights are asked by pollsters for a formal estimate, the figure played back most often is the ‘10% gay’ statistic which our propagandists have been drilling into their heads for years.”


On a personal level. If I quadruplad the number of known gay or "I think he/she's gay, I would come well short of 10%

 

[Two Thumbs]

Who is keeping gays from getting married?

Most state governments.

 

[The Rabbi]

Who is keeping gays from getting married?

Most state governments.

Please post any link supporting that. There is no state government that forbids two homosexuals getting married.

 

[rightwinger]

Who is keeping gays from getting married?

Most state governments.

Please post any link supporting that. There is no state government that forbids two homosexuals getting married.

Please just ignore the rabbi

In his twisted mind, allowing homosexuals to marry the opposite sex is the same as allowing them to marry the person they love

 

[Dr.House]

Don't give a fuck...

You'll find most conservatives agree with that...

 

[René Anafoutra]

I care about people. It's in my nature to want to make sure everyone around me is doing well.

Peoples sexual desires have no meaning beyond finding someone with the same desires.

As far as politics are conserned, the DADT is comical at best (I knew more gay sailors than Spanish sailors) Keeping gays from getting married is unConstitutional.

Oh boy, the Constitution! What does it have to say about gays getting married?

What about people who are into bestiality? Can a man marry a sheep?

Note that I am ignoring a certain user's strawman argument about hating homosexuals. I don't hate homosexuals or care what they do. I just don't believe that a union between them can be a marriage, and I don't want to pay the bill for their AIDS.

 

[rightwinger]

I care about people. It's in my nature to want to make sure everyone around me is doing well.

Peoples sexual desires have no meaning beyond finding someone with the same desires.

As far as politics are conserned, the DADT is comical at best (I knew more gay sailors than Spanish sailors) Keeping gays from getting married is unConstitutional.

Oh boy, the Constitution! What does it have to say about gays getting married?

What about people who are into bestiality? Can a man marry a sheep?

Note that I am ignoring a certain user's strawman argument about hating homosexuals. I don't hate homosexuals or care what they do. I just don't believe that a union between them can be a marriage, and I don't want to pay the bill for their AIDS.

Look up the 14th amendment in the Constitution

Bestiality is against the law, homosexuality is not

People who are married and loyal to their partner are less likely to get AIDS than those who are not

 

[Two Thumbs]

I care about people. It's in my nature to want to make sure everyone around me is doing well.

Peoples sexual desires have no meaning beyond finding someone with the same desires.

As far as politics are conserned, the DADT is comical at best (I knew more gay sailors than Spanish sailors) Keeping gays from getting married is unConstitutional.

Oh boy, the Constitution! What does it have to say about gays getting married? Nothing

What about people who are into bestiality? Can a man marry a sheep? No, Sheep, or any animal, can consent. That's why it's against the law for minors to marry.

Note that I am ignoring a certain user's strawman argument about hating homosexuals. I don't hate homosexuals or care what they do. I just don't believe that a union between them can be a marriage, and I don't want to pay the bill for their AIDS.

I didn't say anything about hating gays.

 

[The Rabbi]

I care about people. It's in my nature to want to make sure everyone around me is doing well.

Peoples sexual desires have no meaning beyond finding someone with the same desires.

As far as politics are conserned, the DADT is comical at best (I knew more gay sailors than Spanish sailors) Keeping gays from getting married is unConstitutional.

Oh boy, the Constitution! What does it have to say about gays getting married?

What about people who are into bestiality? Can a man marry a sheep?

Note that I am ignoring a certain user's strawman argument about hating homosexuals. I don't hate homosexuals or care what they do. I just don't believe that a union between them can be a marriage, and I don't want to pay the bill for their AIDS.

Look up the 14th amendment in the Constitution

Bestiality is against the law, homosexuality is not

People who are married and loyal to their partner are less likely to get AIDS than those who are not

And people who don't engage in sodomy are even less likely. Maybe we should outlaw sodomy?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Who is keeping gays from getting married?

Most state governments.

Please post any link supporting that. There is no state government that forbids two homosexuals getting married.

I'm not going to bother posting link after link on this. Since it's in the news so often.

There are around 3 states that have made it legal for gays to marry. Cali actually banned gay weddings for a while.

For me, it's perfectly fine for a state to have these laws. It's States rights. Majority rules, if you don't like the rules in a state, move. If it's a Fed law you don't like. Where can you go?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Oh boy, the Constitution! What does it have to say about gays getting married?

What about people who are into bestiality? Can a man marry a sheep?

Note that I am ignoring a certain user's strawman argument about hating homosexuals. I don't hate homosexuals or care what they do. I just don't believe that a union between them can be a marriage, and I don't want to pay the bill for their AIDS.

Look up the 14th amendment in the Constitution

Bestiality is against the law, homosexuality is not

People who are married and loyal to their partner are less likely to get AIDS than those who are not

And people who don't engage in sodomy are even less likely. Maybe we should outlaw sodomy?

What?

Do you honestly think you can only get it from sodomy?

 

[The Rabbi]

Look up the 14th amendment in the Constitution

Bestiality is against the law, homosexuality is not

People who are married and loyal to their partner are less likely to get AIDS than those who are not

And people who don't engage in sodomy are even less likely. Maybe we should outlaw sodomy?

What?

Do you honestly think you can only get it from sodomy?

Where did you divine that from anything I wrote? ADD kicking in today?

 

[René Anafoutra]

Look up the 14th amendment in the Constitution

I've been all over the 14th amendment, ever since the argument about Barry's citizenship started, and I have not seen anything about homosexuals. What is your point?

Bestiality is against the law, homosexuality is not

In what state? The last time I checked the revised statutes in Arizona and Texas, homosexuality was still illegal.

 

[The Rabbi]

Most state governments.

Please post any link supporting that. There is no state government that forbids two homosexuals getting married.

I'm not going to bother posting link after link on this. Since it's in the news so often.

There are around 3 states that have made it legal for gays to marry. Cali actually banned gay weddings for a while.

For me, it's perfectly fine for a state to have these laws. It's States rights. Majority rules, if you don't like the rules in a state, move. If it's a Fed law you don't like. Where can you go?

Not a single state bans two people from getting married in whatever ceremony they want. Sorry, fail.

 

[René Anafoutra]

What?

Do you honestly think you can only get it from sodomy?

Yeah, don't forget IV drug use. Whoring around with bisexual men will do it too.