CONFIRMED!: Rich People DO Create the Jobs

Actually the Nazis were National Socialists. Keep in mind that Jefferson made no distinction among liberal governments when he created America regardless of the rational they used for seizing power from the people. Jefferson gave us freedom from all liberal governments because government had been the source of evil in human history. He knew that without seeing the great 20th Century liberals: Hitler, Stalin (our liberals spied for him) and Mao. You still don't know it even after seeing the 20th Century. You'd be one of those brainwashed fools crying because your Dear Leader has passed away.

I don't imagine the Founders were thinking in terms of 'liberal' or 'conservative' and probably the terms 'communism' and 'socialism' hadn't even been coined yet. At the time the Declaration of Independence was adopted in America, there was no such thing as a government other than despotic, monarchy, feudal kingdom, or other totalitarian system. In all cases, it was the government that dictated what rights the people would or would not have.

America under the U.S. Constitution was the first government the world had ever known in which the government was charged to secure the unalienable rights of the people and then leave them alone to govern themselves in whatever way they saw fit. It was a great experiment that was successful beyond even the Founders' wildest imaginations. It produced the most free, most innovative, most creative, most inventive, most prosperous nation the world had ever known or has ever known since.

It is unfortunate that for the last 100 years, we have allowed the socialists and Marxists to chip away at the fundamental concepts of a people who are not governed but rather govern themselves. And we are slowly reverting to the monarchal and/or totalitarian systems that the Founders intended that we should be liberated from.

The assault on the "rich", i.e. job creators, via punative tax systems and oppressive regulation is just one of many ways in which the anti-freedom forces would wrest power from the people and return it to the central government which they see is the rightful dispensor of our rights.

Alas, I fear they have no idea what they do, or how much they will hate their handiwork should they succeed.
No, no...every single one of them will be living in the big house and dictating to the proles. They're smarter than us, see. We can't live our lives without them making decisions for us.

No, really. Just ask 'em.


Actually, they'll be put up against the wall as soon as their useful idiocy is no longer useful.


Theres that conspiracy theory mind of yours again.

Obama wants to raise taxes on rich people by 4% and passed the healthcare plan republicans proposed in the 90's!! This must be 1984, and we must be the proles!

Actually the interesting thing is that in 1984, reagan was more liberal than obama is today. At least by a lot of measures.
 
If you understand the numbers and concepts involved, why did you not refute the numbers I provided?

Because the numbers are not where you got it wrong. You got it wrong in what the numbers mean and imply.
 
Well, the problem with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant -- it's that they know so much that isn't so.

-- Ronald Reagan

That is not a real quote. Something very like it was said ABOUT Reagan, however: by Walter Mondale.
 
I don't imagine the Founders were thinking in terms of 'liberal' or 'conservative' and probably the terms 'communism' and 'socialism' hadn't even been coined yet. At the time the Declaration of Independence was adopted in America, there was no such thing as a government other than despotic, monarchy, feudal kingdom, or other totalitarian system. In all cases, it was the government that dictated what rights the people would or would not have.

America under the U.S. Constitution was the first government the world had ever known in which the government was charged to secure the unalienable rights of the people and then leave them alone to govern themselves in whatever way they saw fit. It was a great experiment that was successful beyond even the Founders' wildest imaginations. It produced the most free, most innovative, most creative, most inventive, most prosperous nation the world had ever known or has ever known since.

It is unfortunate that for the last 100 years, we have allowed the socialists and Marxists to chip away at the fundamental concepts of a people who are not governed but rather govern themselves. And we are slowly reverting to the monarchal and/or totalitarian systems that the Founders intended that we should be liberated from.

The assault on the "rich", i.e. job creators, via punative tax systems and oppressive regulation is just one of many ways in which the anti-freedom forces would wrest power from the people and return it to the central government which they see is the rightful dispensor of our rights.

Alas, I fear they have no idea what they do, or how much they will hate their handiwork should they succeed.
No, no...every single one of them will be living in the big house and dictating to the proles. They're smarter than us, see. We can't live our lives without them making decisions for us.

No, really. Just ask 'em.


Actually, they'll be put up against the wall as soon as their useful idiocy is no longer useful.


Theres that conspiracy theory mind of yours again.

Obama wants to raise taxes on rich people by 4% and passed the healthcare plan republicans proposed in the 90's!! This must be 1984, and we must be the proles!

Actually the interesting thing is that in 1984, reagan was more liberal than obama is today. At least by a lot of measures.
No conspiracy theory. Leftists are addicted to other people's money. This is undeniable.
 
Well, the problem with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant -- it's that they know so much that isn't so.

-- Ronald Reagan

That is not a real quote. Something very like it was said ABOUT Reagan, however: by Walter Mondale.

Good lord man, if you're wrong on that, what else are you wrong on? :cuckoo:

A TIME FOR CHOOSING (The Speech – October 27, 1964)

"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
 
Well, the problem with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant -- it's that they know so much that isn't so.

-- Ronald Reagan

That is not a real quote. Something very like it was said ABOUT Reagan, however: by Walter Mondale.
That, you arrogant buffoon, is a lie.

13:17.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2vd76VoP9c&feature=fvwrel]Ronald Reagan A Time For Choosing 1/2 - YouTube[/ame]
 
No conspiracy theory. Leftists are addicted to other people's money. This is undeniable.

yeah Soros and all the other leftist millionaires/billionaires .. :cuckoo:
Yes indeed. They whip up you useful idiots with class warfare rhetoric. Obama himself (how many millions is he worth) blames "the rich"...and morons like you eagerly lap it up. The OWS is proof.
 
No conspiracy theory. Leftists are addicted to other people's money. This is undeniable.

yeah Soros and all the other leftist millionaires/billionaires .. :cuckoo:
Yes indeed. They whip up you useful idiots with class warfare rhetoric. Obama himself (how many millions is he worth) blames "the rich"...and morons like you eagerly lap it up. The OWS is proof.
OWS message: gap between wealthy and middle class/poor is widening - it's a fact.

class warfare? Conservative trickle down economics and deregulation of financial industry.

even Democrats have waged war on the poor and middle class. It was called the ownership society: We all own the banks - when they need a hand-out
 
yeah Soros and all the other leftist millionaires/billionaires .. :cuckoo:
Yes indeed. They whip up you useful idiots with class warfare rhetoric. Obama himself (how many millions is he worth) blames "the rich"...and morons like you eagerly lap it up. The OWS is proof.
OWS message: gap between wealthy and middle class/poor is widening - it's a fact.

class warfare? Conservative trickle down economics and deregulation of financial industry.

even Democrats have waged war on the poor and middle class. It was called the ownership society: We all own the banks - when they need a hand-out
You've taken the programming well.

Now's the part where you demand something you haven't earned. Don't let me down!
 
I don't imagine the Founders were thinking in terms of 'liberal' or 'conservative' and probably the terms 'communism' and 'socialism' hadn't even been coined yet.

that of course is insane. Jefferson had looked at and studied all of human history and determined that liberal government was the focus of evil no matter what rational it used to take power from the people. And now you know why he gave us freedom from all forms of liberal government. Welcome to your first lesson in American History.
 
Well, the problem with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant -- it's that they know so much that isn't so.

-- Ronald Reagan

That is not a real quote. Something very like it was said ABOUT Reagan, however: by Walter Mondale.
That, you arrogant buffoon, is a lie.

13:17.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2vd76VoP9c&feature=fvwrel]Ronald Reagan A Time For Choosing 1/2 - YouTube[/ame]

Taking Stockman: How Nixon, Reagan, Bush and their GOP Demolished the Economy

“IF there were such a thing as Chapter 11 for politicians,” Stockman begins, “the Republican push to extend the unaffordable Bush tax cuts would amount to a bankruptcy filing...."

Memories – Unemployment During the Reagan Years | Angry Bear - Financial and Economic Commentary
 
Yes indeed. They whip up you useful idiots with class warfare rhetoric. Obama himself (how many millions is he worth) blames "the rich"...and morons like you eagerly lap it up. The OWS is proof.
OWS message: gap between wealthy and middle class/poor is widening - it's a fact.

class warfare? Conservative trickle down economics and deregulation of financial industry.

even Democrats have waged war on the poor and middle class. It was called the ownership society: We all own the banks - when they need a hand-out
You've taken the programming well.

Now's the part where you demand something you haven't earned. Don't let me down!

How about earning a tax break, as when others pay when you don't? Businesses and wealthy influence peddlers get breaks others do not. That's unearned. :eusa_shhh:
 
And we are slowly reverting to the monarchal and/or totalitarian systems that the Founders intended that we should be liberated from.

yes modern conservatives do agree there! So you agree that big liberal government is big liberal government whether it is termed liberal, monarchial, communist or National Socialist. It was all the same to our founders.
 
That is not a real quote. Something very like it was said ABOUT Reagan, however: by Walter Mondale.
That, you arrogant buffoon, is a lie.

13:17.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2vd76VoP9c&feature=fvwrel]Ronald Reagan A Time For Choosing 1/2 - YouTube[/ame]

Taking Stockman: How Nixon, Reagan, Bush and their GOP Demolished the Economy

“IF there were such a thing as Chapter 11 for politicians,” Stockman begins, “the Republican push to extend the unaffordable Bush tax cuts would amount to a bankruptcy filing...."

Memories – Unemployment During the Reagan Years | Angry Bear - Financial and Economic Commentary
Oh, look, a leftist monkey is desperately flinging poo, hoping something sticks. :lol:
 
OWS message: gap between wealthy and middle class/poor is widening - it's a fact.

class warfare? Conservative trickle down economics and deregulation of financial industry.

even Democrats have waged war on the poor and middle class. It was called the ownership society: We all own the banks - when they need a hand-out
You've taken the programming well.

Now's the part where you demand something you haven't earned. Don't let me down!

How about earning a tax break, as when others pay when you don't? Businesses and wealthy influence peddlers get breaks others do not. That's unearned. :eusa_shhh:
Start your own business so you can earn that break.

Oh, wait -- that would require actual effort on your part. Well, forget that. It's so much easier to whine and demand things, isn't it?

You know, like the OWS public shitters.
 
You've taken the programming well.

Now's the part where you demand something you haven't earned. Don't let me down!

How about earning a tax break, as when others pay when you don't? Businesses and wealthy influence peddlers get breaks others do not. That's unearned. :eusa_shhh:
Start your own business so you can earn that break.

Oh, wait -- that would require actual effort on your part. Well, forget that. It's so much easier to whine and demand things, isn't it?

You know, like the OWS public shitters.

You stupid fuck, I've had a few businesses that I've started. Whine? I would never compete with you in an area you do so well in
 
That, you arrogant buffoon, is a lie.

13:17.

Ronald Reagan A Time For Choosing 1/2 - YouTube

Taking Stockman: How Nixon, Reagan, Bush and their GOP Demolished the Economy

“IF there were such a thing as Chapter 11 for politicians,” Stockman begins, “the Republican push to extend the unaffordable Bush tax cuts would amount to a bankruptcy filing...."

Memories – Unemployment During the Reagan Years | Angry Bear - Financial and Economic Commentary
Oh, look, a leftist monkey is desperately flinging poo, hoping something sticks. :lol:

yeah, I link to what a big leftie says......

David Alan Stockman (born November 10, 1946) is a former U.S. politician and businessman, serving as a Republican U.S. Representative from the state of Michigan (1977–1981) and as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (1981–1985). - :eusa_pray:
 

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