Zone1 Coming Soon: "God Will Invade"

[SweetSue92]

Not a better time to reconcile to God through Jesus Christ His Son than on Easter (Resurrection) weekend.

I love how C.S. Lewis, once an atheist, put it in "Mere Christianity":

“God will invade. But I wonder whether people who ask God to interfere openly and directly in our world quite realise what it will be like when He does. When that happens, it is the end of the world. When the author walks on to the stage the play is over. God is going to invade, all right: but what is the good of saying you are on His side then, when you see the whole natural universe melting away like a dream and something else - something it never entered your head to conceive - comes crashing in; something so beautiful to some of us and so terrible to others that none of us will have any choice left? For this time it will God without disguise; something so overwhelming that it will strike either irresistible love or irresistible horror into every creature. It will be too late then to choose your side. There is no use saying you choose to lie down when it has become impossible to stand up. That will not be the time for choosing; it will be the time when we discover which side we really have chosen, whether we realised it before or not. Now, today, this moment, is our chance to choose the right side. God is holding back to give us that chance. It will not last for ever. We must take it or leave it.”​

A quote by C.S. Lewis

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[pknopp]

I'm not sure I would describe God coming back as an invasion. I would think of it more as a fulfilled promise.

 

[JGalt]

I'm not sure I would describe God coming back as an invasion. I would think of it more as a fulfilled promise.

This seems like it would be an all-out invasion...

 

[occupied]

You just wait till your dad gets home. Then you'll get it.

 

[SweetSue92]

I'm not sure I would describe God coming back as an invasion. I would think of it more as a fulfilled promise.

It is a promise. And it seems it will be like an invasion.

 

[SweetSue92]

You just wait till your dad gets home. Then you'll get it.

If I abuse you with a leather belt are you going to reject and hate leather your whole life? Or the people who abused you?

People abused you. God did not.

 

[pknopp]

It is a promise. And it seems it will be like an invasion.

I do not see it that way at all.

 

[SweetSue92]

I do not see it that way at all.

Revelation. The last Book of the Bible.

 

[JGalt]

I do not see it that way at all.

Isaiah 13 foretold this almost 1,000 years before Christ was born.

A Prophecy Against Babylon

A prophecy against Babylon that Isaiah son of Amoz saw:

Raise a banner on a bare hilltop, shout to them; beckon to them to enter the gates of the nobles.
I have commanded those I prepared for battle; I have summoned my warriors to carry out my wrath—
those who rejoice in my triumph.

Listen, a noise on the mountains,
like that of a great multitude!
Listen, an uproar among the kingdoms,
like nations massing together!
The Lord Almighty is mustering
an army for war.
They come from faraway lands,
from the ends of the heavens—
the Lord and the weapons of his wrath—
to destroy the whole country.

Wail, for the day of the Lord is near;
it will come like destruction from the Almighty.[a]
Because of this, all hands will go limp,
every heart will melt with fear.
Terror will seize them,
pain and anguish will grip them;
they will writhe like a woman in labor.
They will look aghast at each other,
their faces aflame.

See, the day of the Lord is coming
—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger—
to make the land desolate
and destroy the sinners within it.
The stars of heaven and their constellations
will not show their light.
The rising sun will be darkened
and the moon will not give its light.
I will punish the world for its evil,
the wicked for their sins.
I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty
and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
I will make people scarcer than pure gold,
more rare than the gold of Ophir.
Therefore I will make the heavens tremble;
and the earth will shake from its place
at the wrath of the Lord Almighty,
in the day of his burning anger.

Like a hunted gazelle,
like sheep without a shepherd,
they will all return to their own people,
they will flee to their native land.
Whoever is captured will be thrust through;
all who are caught will fall by the sword.
16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.
See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.
Their bows will strike down the young men;
they will have no mercy on infants,
nor will they look with compassion on children.
Babylon, the jewel of kingdoms,
the pride and glory of the Babylonians,[b]
will be overthrown by God
like Sodom and Gomorrah.
She will never be inhabited
or lived in through all generations;
there no nomads will pitch their tents,
there no shepherds will rest their flocks.
But desert creatures will lie there,
jackals will fill her houses;
there the owls will dwell,
and there the wild goats will leap about.
Hyenas will inhabit her strongholds,
jackals her luxurious palaces.
Her time is at hand,
and her days will not be prolonged.

 

[pknopp]

You will.

No, I do not believe I will.

 

[pknopp]

So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

1 John 4:16

What about that would make me see the return of God as an invasion?

 

[SweetSue92]

So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

1 John 4:16

What about that would make me see the return of God as an invasion?

An invasion is not necessarily bad. C.S. Lewis says this in his quote. He says the invasion can "strike irresistible love" in some.

 

[SweetSue92]

No, I do not believe I will.

If you do not believe in the Second Coming of Christ you are simply not a Christian. It's in every creed I can think of.

 

[pknopp]

If you do not believe in the Second Coming of Christ you are simply not a Christian. It's in every creed I can think of.

I said it would be a fulfilled promise did I not?

 

[SweetSue92]

I said it would be a fulfilled promise did I not?

Just spell out what you think is going to happen then.

 

[pknopp]

Just spell out what you think is going to happen then.

I really don't concern myself with it. I have no reason to.

 

[SweetSue92]

I really don't concern myself with it. I have no reason to.

Okay, I believe you. But this is not what the Bible says of Christians. As just one example:

And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.--Romans 8:23

 

[pknopp]

Okay, I believe you. But this is not what the Bible says of Christians. As just one example:

And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.--Romans 8:23

I see nothing in that quote about an invasion.

 

[JGalt]

Just spell out what you think is going to happen then.

Many Christians believe in the love of Christ, but reject the notion of judgment. They think that when Christ returns, He's going to be a peaceful hippy, and we'll all sit around a camp fire, toasting marshmallows and passing around a bong.

 

[pknopp]

Many Christians believe in the love of Christ, but reject the notion of judgment. They think that when Christ returns, He's going to be a peaceful hippy, and we'll all sit around a camp fire, toasting marshmallows and passing around a bong.

Judgement is not mine to give. Not my concern.