Combined Thread: "Solutions" for mass shootings. Gun Control, Mental Health, School Security, etc

[nat4900]

That eliminates all guns, jackass.

All guns are built and intended to kill.

You're not going to round up millions of guns, and we can build them at home anyway.

Next solution?

There are over 8 MILLION AR-15 style weapons already in the hands of Americans.......after this tragedy, expect MANY MORE of these weapons to be sold to make gun-manufacturers even richer and donate MUCH MORE money to corrupt congress....

BUT, our thought s and prayers are for the victims and we will lower the flag to half mast for a day.

 

[OldLady]

How did an armed shooter walk into the school in the first place? The school security system was obviously deficient to the point of gross negligence and reckless endangerment. It has happened before, so it is foreseeable.

The public school system huddles our children together unprotected, thus making them sitting duck targets. The prey is there, all you need is a predator. Florida got a predator yesterday and he got his prey on the school's platter.

Finger pointing at school personnel is a spin on a horrific event with no effort to offer a solution to mitigate such violence, so typical of a supporter of the NRA's policy of no gun control, not way.

Where is the empathy for all those killed, maimed and their parents, siblings and friends who will live the act of one man with a gun.

It's in preventing it from happening again. Schools need to be a secure environment - period.

What about looking at school shooters and other mass shooters as a group, figuring out what makes them tick (or skip a tick, more like) and asking what we can do to stop manufacturing such twisted, frustrated people?
If you have ideas on that, support whatever cause you think will help.
Limiting certain guns won't solve the problem in itself.
What is causing this to happen? I think there are a lot of ways to help, but none of them are going to work overnight.

 

[Valerie]

Florida shooting:

Parkland school student calls Donald Trump a 'piece of s***' over tweet of condolence

'Prayers won’t fix this. But gun control will prevent it from happening again', says teen


Florida shooting victim calls Donald Trump a 'f*****g piece of s**t' over condolence message

 

[Vastator]

What the fuck is a "real" conversation about how to prevent school shootings? What the fuck does that bullshit mean?

I’ve already posted one legit proposal to a gun grabbers. One in which everyone can contribute; and also doesn’t infringe on gun owners. Can you believe they suddenly lost interest in the conversation; and haven’t posted since...? Hmmm...

Link? I would love to see it

Cue The Virtue Signaling From Liberal Celebrities

 

[TNHarley]

I am sure you support other groups that fight for individual liberty?
Why hate on that one?
Are you ok with regulating EVERY constitutional right? Or are you just going to disingenuously attack this one?
Guess what? ALL rights come with problems.
Only a moron thinks freedom is free.

 

[nat4900]

Asking Nat to think is like asking a hippopotamus to fly.

It ain't happening any time soon.

I'm so fucking "hurt" that a mindless moron "thinks" so of me.....LOL

 

[martybegan]

Florida shooting:

Parkland school student calls Donald Trump a 'piece of s***' over tweet of condolence

'Prayers won’t fix this. But gun control will prevent it from happening again', says teen


Florida shooting victim calls Donald Trump a 'f*****g piece of s**t' over condolence message

What gun control, besides total weapon bans and confiscation would have prevented this?

 

[NightFox]

What the fuck is a "real" conversation about how to prevent school shootings? What the fuck does that bullshit mean?

It means talking about the ROOT causes of this violence instead of all the politically charged horseshit that both of our Washington Crime Families want to focus on (gun control, blaming the "other side", etc..,).

For example:
It means discussing the factors (e.g. political correctness) that have super charged the environment of conformity in schools, which leads to those that don't conform to the "norms" becoming increasingly isolated from other people.

It means discussing the influence that violence in movies, music, video games, etc.., has on de-sensitizing children to violence and de-humanizing others.

It means discussing the role that technology (e.g. social media) plays in disconnecting people from society and face to face human relationships.

It means discussing how the breakdown of the nuclear family is effecting the emotional well being of children.

There's no magic cure but we're not even discussing the ROOT causes, instead we're all chattering about gun control and which political ideology these shooters belong to.

 

[Valerie]

Stoneman Douglas High student calls on lawmakers: ''You need to take some action' - CNN

"We're children. You guys are the adults. You need to take some action and play a role. Work together, come over your politics, and get something done."

 

[TNHarley]

What the fuck is a "real" conversation about how to prevent school shootings? What the fuck does that bullshit mean?

I’ve already posted one legit proposal to a gun grabbers. One in which everyone can contribute; and also doesn’t infringe on gun owners. Can you believe they suddenly lost interest in the conversation; and haven’t posted since...? Hmmm...

Link? I would love to see it

Cue The Virtue Signaling From Liberal Celebrities

That would certainly help!

 

[Valerie]

The Florida Shooting Had All the Red Flags

One of the classmates of the alleged shooter told local news that the student often showed a lot of warning signs, from showing off pictures of his guns to joking about knowing the layout of the school well enough to figure where students would be in case of a shooting.

WSVN 7 News on Twitter

Opponents of gun control will insist that it's too early to "get political," by which they will mean "discuss anything that could have prevented this" or "acknowledge that we have the power to change gun laws but we refuse to." They'll say that it's too soon to point out that Florida gun laws are some of the most relaxed in the country, meaning in Florida you can buy a gun without a license, you don't need firearms registration, and in most cases you don't need to go through a background check, including to purchase semi-automatic weapons. Acknowledging that it's less than two years since the Pulse in Orlando, the deadliest U.S. shooting in modern history, is "insensitive."

CBS Evening News on Twitter

Opponents of gun control will also likely say it's too soon to bring up that we know, categorically, that the presence of a gun in a home dramatically increases the likelihood of homicide and suicide.

 

[nat4900]

KEEP THE CARNAGE.....right wingers....Its what our founding fathers wanted.

 

[DarkFury]

Apparently the shooter had attended that High School so he knew his way around. What's extra disturbing is that somebody reported to the FBI some time ago, that this freak was making threats to shot up the school. The FBI told the school who says the guy was prohibited to enter the campus with a backpack.

The school's officials are idiots. He was expelled, walked right in and shot up the kids. It really is as simple as that. Their security was totally lacking.

The security guard tried. And died for it.

The security guard was an UNARMED PT teacher! That's bullet catcher in real world terms.

 

[OldLady]

Apparently the shooter had attended that High School so he knew his way around. What's extra disturbing is that somebody reported to the FBI some time ago, that this freak was making threats to shot up the school. The FBI told the school who says the guy was prohibited to enter the campus with a backpack.

The school's officials are idiots. He was expelled, walked right in and shot up the kids. It really is as simple as that. Their security was totally lacking.

The security guard tried. And died for it.

Was he armed? I'm hearing he wasn't. If not he should have been

Well, I'm guessing no, since he didn't shoot Cruz. But Cruz could have just gotten in the first shot. The element of surprise is always on the attacker's side.

Well at least he'd have a chance. Arm them, if they are it will give someone pause, that's just common sense

If someone is hired for security and is properly trained, I agree. In prisons, guards can't be armed because the inmates might get the guns. In schools, probably people don't want the kids to be freaked out by gun toting guards. But he could have carried inside his jacket. He wouldn't have needed to wear it strapped around his hips like a gunslinger.

 

[Valerie]

Why more than 100 gun control proposals in Congress since 2011 have failed

Over just the past five years, lawmakers have introduced more than 100 gun control proposals in Congress, since Gabrielle Giffords and 18 other people were shot in Tucson, Arizona in January 2011.

Not one of them has been passed into law, and very few of the proposals even made it to the House or Senate floor.

Why more than 100 gun control proposals in Congress since 2011 have failed

 

[Penelope]

Sure, right wing morons.....Let's have ALL junior high and high schoolers walking around armed and ready to show how truly fucked up we've become......
What could possibly go wrong?

Unreal. Best to start them playing cowboys and Indians in 1 st grade. Practice for the real thing. Nuts.

 

[shockedcanadian]

What did Obama do about it?

All of this, while he was bankrupting the nation, weaponizing the IRS, forcing a financial penalty for those who don't sign up for insurance they don't want or need, while he lied to the country about "keeping your old doctor" and other b.s

All of this, and he still didn't do anything about weapons. It's difficult because you have a constitution. Terrorists are best stopped before they become terrorists, this is true across the board on any issue you don't want to have to deal with in full fruition, be it the stick up kid or the latest murderous coward. It's not the role of government per se, it's the role of the nation to embrace positive role models, influences and philosophies.

 

[Valerie]

MAY 3, 2016

As States Expand Gun Rights, the Police Object

Guns in bars. Guns in airports. Guns in day care centers and sports arenas. Conservative state lawmakers around the country are pressing to weaken an array of gun regulations, in some cases greatly expanding where owners can carry their weapons.

But the legislators are encountering stiff opposition from what has been a trusted ally: law enforcement.

In more than a dozen states with traditions of robust support for gun ownership rights, and where legislatures have moved to relax gun laws during the past year, the local police have become increasingly vocal in denouncing the measures. They say the new laws expose officers to greater danger and prevent them from doing their jobs effectively.

“We are a gun society and we recognize that, but we should be writing gun laws that make us safer,” said Leonard Papania, the police chief in Gulfport, who opposes part of a new state law that creates exceptions to the rules for concealed-carry permits. “Do you want every incident on your street to escalate to acts of gun violence?”

As States Expand Gun Rights, the Police Object




"There has long been a tension between the interests of law enforcement and the efforts to roll back gun regulations, but the conflicts are becoming more frequent as gun laws are expanded, particularly in states with permissive policies. Police officers in Maine and Texas have described coming across people displaying their weapons near schools and libraries, daring anyone to call the police and challenge their newly won rights."

 

[Valerie]

“What is alarming to the police is that they have no power to ascertain the potential criminal background of an armed individual until a crime is committed, and by then it is too late,” said Ladd Everitt, the spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, an advocacy group.

The objections to these laws are not only about officer safety. Law enforcement officials also argue that creating more exceptions to gun regulations will impede investigations. The discovery of an unpermitted weapon typically gives officers probable cause to conduct searches, but some of the new laws could take away that option.

As States Expand Gun Rights, the Police Object

 

[MindWars]

In a brazen example of media bias, Salon.com claimed that President Trump’s first response to the horrific school shooting in Florida was to blame the victims.
Salon Brazenly Lies About Trump Blaming Florida Victims For School Shooting



Oh look the very news site that tried to make child molesting seem normal, people jumped on them so badly about they had to take it down.
Now they have their nerve trying to pull this stunt. LMFAO they must need viewers.