Colin Powel tells the truth - contradicts Bush

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    Here it is, the truth about what is going on in Iraq from the only honest member of the Bush administration, Colin Powell.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133629,00.html

    And I specifically got the link from Fox so you couldn't try and blame this on the so-called liberal media.

    Bush is lying to the American people about Iraq. He lied to get us into the war, he's lying to keep us there and it has now cost over 1,000 soldiers, countless civilians, and billions of dollars to perpetuate Bush's lies.

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    How in your demented liberal mind does Powell saying the situation in Iraq is bad and terrorists will step up attacks to disrupt elections (NO SHIT) equal Powell saying Bush lied Lied LIED LIED DAMMIT!!! ?
     
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    And on another note I love how you tote Powell as "the only honest member of the Bush administration" only when he seems to agree with you. Seems being the operative word, because he really isn't.
     
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    Getting desperate aclu? Powell also said Iraq had WMDs.
     
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    How did this story say Bush was lying?
     
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    acludem, how could you, don't you know that what Powell said is just another crazy "guess" from the lunatic fringe? More nutcases like the NIE, Allawi, McCain, Hagel, and the Army War College. :rolleyes:
     
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    The president says the situation is improving. The general says the situation is getting worse.

    It doesn't take a huge leap of logic to notice that this disparity could only mean that someone is misinformed or someone is shading the truth.
     
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    Q It seemed as if Secretary Powell kind of contradicted the President in saying that things were getting worse there, when of course the President has been saying all along that things are --

    MR. McCLELLAN: I think he's said exactly what we've been saying for quite some time. Secretary Powell was talking about an increase in violence associated with efforts to disrupt the election process. And we have, for a long time, said that we expect an uptick in violence as we move closer to elections. The terrorists recognize how high the stakes are in Iraq. They want to shake our will, but they cannot. They will be defeated. They recognize that we are approaching a decisive moment in Iraq, and that is the -- that is free and fair elections by the end of January.

    And we are working very closely, as partners with the interim government in Iraq, to address the ongoing security threats. It's hard work transitioning to democracy. And there remain difficulties along the path to democracy and peace in Iraq. But we are there to support the Iraqi people every step of the way.

    Q So he wasn't off message?

    MR. McCLELLAN: No, he said what we've said for a long time. He was talking about it in association with the elections.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/09/20040927-2.html
     
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    I watched the President on ORielly last night. He said that the terrorists will probably kick up the attacks to try to disrupt the elections. So how exactly Is Powell Contradicting him?
     
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    Well I suppose that if your regular sources are discredited, a good fall-back plan is to go to reputable venues and then "interpret" the information to suit yourself.

    Of course terrorist activity will increase between now and the elections - for very obvious reasons. That is the context of Powell's remarks. "Powell said the insurgency is only becoming more violent as planned January elections near."

    You want to seize this comment and twist it into another leftist Bush bashing lie. Apparently you must assume that others on this board have rather poor reading comprehension skills and cannot put information into perspective. Or perhaps you have become so rabid in your campaign to paint Pres. Bush as an unprincipled liar that your own ethics are beginning to erode. Or perhaps you have simply been exposed to too much viewing of Michael Moore garbage.

    Have you become so desperate to defeat Pres. Bush that you are now cheering for a defeat in Iraq? Are you now so indoctrinated in Democrat propoganda that you can no longer distinguish fact from fiction? And why is it that the lib response to every problem is to cut and run. Here's the conservative view, from another exerpt from the same article:
    "Asked about Rumsfeld's comments, Powell repeated the State Department's assertion that all Iraqis must have the chance to vote if the election is to be credible.

    "You know, there will be polling stations that are shot at," he said. "There will be insurgents who will still be out there who will try to keep people from voting."

    "But I think what we have to keep shooting for and what is achievable is to give everybody the opportunity to vote in the upcoming election, to make the election fully credible, and something that will stand the test of the international community's examination."


    The Republican goal is free elections and a democratic society for the Iraqis. The lib goal is to defeat George Bush and to tell any lie, insult any friend, coddle any enemy and ignore any fact in your self-destructive rush to elect an idiot.

    Shame on you. Some of your posts have made me question your judgement, but this is the first that has made me question your ethics.
     

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