Climate Change Deniers Debunked

[westwall]

Here are eight reasons why.

Eight Pseudoscientific Climate Claims Debunked by Real Scientists BillMoyers.com

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

 

[Liminal]

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/06/03/science.aaa5632/F1.large.jpg

Kinda throws out the charge that such corrections make the warming look worse by making the past look colder.

Let's presume that those charts are anywhere close to realitiy. Do you have any proof whatsoever that it is a bad thing, rather than a good thing?

Do human civilizations tend to develop when it is cold, or warm?

Humans are warm-blooded mammals. By definition that means we must warm our environment.

Global warming nutters are idiots.

On second thought I really should apologize, I can see that I've underestimated you. It's clear to me now, your professional demeanor and meticulous, detailed analysis of this question verify your bonafides as a true scholar. I don't know why I didn't see it before.

 

[Muhammed]

Here are eight reasons why.

Eight Pseudoscientific Climate Claims Debunked by Real Scientists BillMoyers.com

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

Or perhaphs those of you who have admitted to be ignorant of the subject should make an effort to become less ignorant.

Here's a few tips if you wish to become less ignorant regarding the subject.

1) Go to your local public library.

2) Get a library card.

3) Request a book entitled "The Hockey Stick Illusion".

Educate yourself or remain ignorant.

Here are eight reasons why.

Eight Pseudoscientific Climate Claims Debunked by Real Scientists BillMoyers.com

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

 

[Liminal]

Here are eight reasons why.

Eight Pseudoscientific Climate Claims Debunked by Real Scientists BillMoyers.com

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

Uh huh

 

[edthecynic]

NOAA Fiddles With Climate Data To Erase The 15-Year Global Warming ‘Hiatus’

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists have found a solution to the 15-year “pause” in global warming: They “adjusted” the hiatus in warming out of the temperature record.

New climate data by NOAA scientists doubles the warming trend since the late 1990s by adjusting pre-hiatus temperatures downward and inflating temperatures in more recent years.

“Newly corrected and updated global surface temperature data from NOAA’s [National Centers for Environmental Information] do not support the notion of a global warming ‘hiatus,'” wrote NOAA scientists in their study presenting newly adjusted climate data.

NOAA says for the years 1998 to 2012, the “new analysis exhibits more than twice as much warming as the old analysis at the global scale,” at 0.086 degrees Celsius per decade compared to 0.039 degrees per decade.

“This is clearly attributable to the new [Sea Surface Temperature] analysis, which itself has much higher trends,” scientists noted in their study. “In contrast, trends in the new [land surface temperature] analysis are only slightly higher.”

Global surface temperature data shows a lack of statistically significant warming over the last 15 years — a development that has baffled climate scientists. Dozens of explanations have been offered to explain the hiatus in warming, but those theories may be rendered moot by NOOA’s new study.

NOAA’s study, however, notes the overall warming trend since 1880 has not been significantly changed. What’s increased is the warming trend in recent decades.

NOAA Tampers With Data To Erase The Global Warming Hiatus The Daily Caller

The Daily Caller? Are you serious? Of course you are.

They sited sources...........

Your source is a joke.

Prove it.

As you well know, the Daily Caller got caught paying "sources" to lie.

 

[Muhammed]

NOAA Fiddles With Climate Data To Erase The 15-Year Global Warming ‘Hiatus’

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists have found a solution to the 15-year “pause” in global warming: They “adjusted” the hiatus in warming out of the temperature record.

New climate data by NOAA scientists doubles the warming trend since the late 1990s by adjusting pre-hiatus temperatures downward and inflating temperatures in more recent years.

“Newly corrected and updated global surface temperature data from NOAA’s [National Centers for Environmental Information] do not support the notion of a global warming ‘hiatus,'” wrote NOAA scientists in their study presenting newly adjusted climate data.

NOAA says for the years 1998 to 2012, the “new analysis exhibits more than twice as much warming as the old analysis at the global scale,” at 0.086 degrees Celsius per decade compared to 0.039 degrees per decade.

“This is clearly attributable to the new [Sea Surface Temperature] analysis, which itself has much higher trends,” scientists noted in their study. “In contrast, trends in the new [land surface temperature] analysis are only slightly higher.”

Global surface temperature data shows a lack of statistically significant warming over the last 15 years — a development that has baffled climate scientists. Dozens of explanations have been offered to explain the hiatus in warming, but those theories may be rendered moot by NOOA’s new study.

NOAA’s study, however, notes the overall warming trend since 1880 has not been significantly changed. What’s increased is the warming trend in recent decades.

NOAA Tampers With Data To Erase The Global Warming Hiatus The Daily Caller

The Daily Caller? Are you serious? Of course you are.

They sited sources...........

Your source is a joke.

Prove it.

As you well know, the Daily Caller got caught paying "sources" to lie.

Can you quote the specific lie and prove that it is a lie?

 

[edthecynic]

The Daily Caller? Are you serious? Of course you are.

They sited sources...........

Your source is a joke.

Prove it.

As you well know, the Daily Caller got caught paying "sources" to lie.

Can you quote the specific lie and prove that it is a lie?

Why yes, yes I can, as if you didn't already know since the Right claim to be the most informed people on the planet and every low-information voter on Earth knows about this.

Dominican police 3 women paid to make false claims about Menendez - The Washington Post

Three Dominican women were paid to lie about having sex for money with Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and a close friend, Dominican police said Monday, citing statements from the women and other evidence.

At a news conference in the Dominican Republic, National Police spokesman Maximo Baez Aybar said authorities had determined that the women were paid hundreds of dollars by a local lawyer to make the false claims in videotaped interviews. The women said the lawyer coached them on what to say in their recorded statements, taped in a Dominican shopping mall in La Romana province.

The announcement by police came two weeks after Dominican authorities released an affidavit from one of the escorts saying she had been paid to appear in a video and claim that she was paid to have sex with Menendez. The woman, Nexis de los Santos Santana, said that the claims were false and that she had never met the senator or his friend and political donor, Salomon Melgen, according to court documents and interviews.

Allegations that Menendez patronized prostitutes in the Dominican Republic began circulating last year while he was running for reelection and resurfaced in recent weeks, after he became chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

The videotaped claims of two women, made with their faces obscured, were posted last fall on the conservative Web site the Daily Caller. The site reported that “the two women said they met Menendez around Easter at Casa de Campo, an expensive 7,000-acre resort in the Dominican Republic. . . . They claimed Menendez agreed to pay them $500 for sex acts, but in the end they each received only $100.”

 

[Old Rocks]

Here are eight reasons why.

Eight Pseudoscientific Climate Claims Debunked by Real Scientists BillMoyers.com

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

LOL. Dr. James Hansen is an internationally respected scientist, with many published articles to his name. He is also considered to be a leading authority on atmospheric physics. And who are you, Walleyes? A anonymous poster on the internet that doesn't even bother to back up his claims with links.

 

[Old Rocks]

Right for 27 years 1981 Hansen study finds warming trend that could raise sea levels ThinkProgress

In fact, 27 years ago Thursday, James Hansen and six other NASA atmospheric physicists, published a seminal article in Science, “Climate Impact of Increasing Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide.” The paper has a number of caveats, as befits a major projection before modern climate models and modern supercomputers were available, before we had decades of verifying observations, and before we knew just how fast greenhouse gas emissions would rise. But the analysis bears up unbelievably well — any one of us would be delighted if we published something a quarter century ago that was this prescient:


The global temperature rose 0.2°C between the middle 1960s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

The 1980s warmed, the Northwest passage opened, the drought prone-regions have emerged, and sea level rise is a top worry (even if Greenland has emerged as more troublesome than West Antarctica). I believe the threat of drought and sea level rise remain the to gravest threats that climate change poses.

When Dr. James Hansen made those predictions in 1981, obese junkies on the radio were claiming that there was no warming at all. And continued to make that claim for another 20 years. Then it became evident to everyone that there was, indeed, a warming going on. So then, the tune changed to 'It's all natural'. The deniers have failed for the last thirty years to contribute anything at all credible to understanding the climate. All they have done is stand in left field doing the 'neener, neener' routine.

In the meantime, the real scientists have continued to increase our understanding of the climate. And the deniars have continued to flaunt their incredible ignorance and ability to pull lies out of their asses.

 

[Muhammed]

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

LOL. Dr. James Hansen is an internationally respected scientist, with many published articles to his name. He is also considered to be a leading authority on atmospheric physics. And who are you, Walleyes? A anonymous poster on the internet that doesn't even bother to back up his claims with links.

Hanson is respected by foolish morons.

 

[Muhammed]

They sited sources...........

Your source is a joke.

Prove it.

As you well know, the Daily Caller got caught paying "sources" to lie.

Can you quote the specific lie and prove that it is a lie?

Why yes, yes I can, as if you didn't already know since the Right claim to be the most informed people on the planet and every low-information voter on Earth knows about this.

Dominican police 3 women paid to make false claims about Menendez - The Washington Post

Three Dominican women were paid to lie about having sex for money with Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and a close friend, Dominican police said Monday, citing statements from the women and other evidence.

At a news conference in the Dominican Republic, National Police spokesman Maximo Baez Aybar said authorities had determined that the women were paid hundreds of dollars by a local lawyer to make the false claims in videotaped interviews. The women said the lawyer coached them on what to say in their recorded statements, taped in a Dominican shopping mall in La Romana province.

The announcement by police came two weeks after Dominican authorities released an affidavit from one of the escorts saying she had been paid to appear in a video and claim that she was paid to have sex with Menendez. The woman, Nexis de los Santos Santana, said that the claims were false and that she had never met the senator or his friend and political donor, Salomon Melgen, according to court documents and interviews.

Allegations that Menendez patronized prostitutes in the Dominican Republic began circulating last year while he was running for reelection and resurfaced in recent weeks, after he became chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

The videotaped claims of two women, made with their faces obscured, were posted last fall on the conservative Web site the Daily Caller. The site reported that “the two women said they met Menendez around Easter at Casa de Campo, an expensive 7,000-acre resort in the Dominican Republic. . . . They claimed Menendez agreed to pay them $500 for sex acts, but in the end they each received only $100.”

What does a prostitute getting short-changed have to do with the Earth's climate?

 

[westwall]

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

LOL. Dr. James Hansen is an internationally respected scientist, with many published articles to his name. He is also considered to be a leading authority on atmospheric physics. And who are you, Walleyes? A anonymous poster on the internet that doesn't even bother to back up his claims with links.

You mean like his former superior at NASA who had this to say about your hero?

"Washington DC, Jan 27th 2009: NASA warming scientist James Hansen, one of former Vice-President Al Gore’s closest allies in the promotion of man-made global warming fears, is being publicly rebuked by his former supervisor at NASA.

Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist, Dr. John S. Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen, NASA’s vocal man-made global warming fear soothsayer, has now publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen “embarrassed NASA” with his alarming climate claims and said Hansen was “was never muzzled.” Theon joins the rapidly growing ranks of international scientists abandoning the promotion of man-made global warming fears".


http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/in...ecord_id=B6A8BAA3-802A-23AD-4650-CB6A01303A65

 

[Liminal]

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

LOL. Dr. James Hansen is an internationally respected scientist, with many published articles to his name. He is also considered to be a leading authority on atmospheric physics. And who are you, Walleyes? A anonymous poster on the internet that doesn't even bother to back up his claims with links.

You mean like his former superior at NASA who had this to say about your hero?

"Washington DC, Jan 27th 2009: NASA warming scientist James Hansen, one of former Vice-President Al Gore’s closest allies in the promotion of man-made global warming fears, is being publicly rebuked by his former supervisor at NASA.

Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist, Dr. John S. Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen, NASA’s vocal man-made global warming fear soothsayer, has now publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen “embarrassed NASA” with his alarming climate claims and said Hansen was “was never muzzled.” Theon joins the rapidly growing ranks of international scientists abandoning the promotion of man-made global warming fears".


http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/in...ecord_id=B6A8BAA3-802A-23AD-4650-CB6A01303A65

All part of the wider conspiracy, which you have been so diligent in uncovering.

 

[edthecynic]

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

LOL. Dr. James Hansen is an internationally respected scientist, with many published articles to his name. He is also considered to be a leading authority on atmospheric physics. And who are you, Walleyes? A anonymous poster on the internet that doesn't even bother to back up his claims with links.

Hanson is respected by foolish morons.

Says the who thinks the Daily Liar is a respected source!

 

[edthecynic]

Your source is a joke.

Prove it.

As you well know, the Daily Caller got caught paying "sources" to lie.

Can you quote the specific lie and prove that it is a lie?

Why yes, yes I can, as if you didn't already know since the Right claim to be the most informed people on the planet and every low-information voter on Earth knows about this.

Dominican police 3 women paid to make false claims about Menendez - The Washington Post

Three Dominican women were paid to lie about having sex for money with Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and a close friend, Dominican police said Monday, citing statements from the women and other evidence.

At a news conference in the Dominican Republic, National Police spokesman Maximo Baez Aybar said authorities had determined that the women were paid hundreds of dollars by a local lawyer to make the false claims in videotaped interviews. The women said the lawyer coached them on what to say in their recorded statements, taped in a Dominican shopping mall in La Romana province.

The announcement by police came two weeks after Dominican authorities released an affidavit from one of the escorts saying she had been paid to appear in a video and claim that she was paid to have sex with Menendez. The woman, Nexis de los Santos Santana, said that the claims were false and that she had never met the senator or his friend and political donor, Salomon Melgen, according to court documents and interviews.

Allegations that Menendez patronized prostitutes in the Dominican Republic began circulating last year while he was running for reelection and resurfaced in recent weeks, after he became chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

The videotaped claims of two women, made with their faces obscured, were posted last fall on the conservative Web site the Daily Caller. The site reported that “the two women said they met Menendez around Easter at Casa de Campo, an expensive 7,000-acre resort in the Dominican Republic. . . . They claimed Menendez agreed to pay them $500 for sex acts, but in the end they each received only $100.”

What does a prostitute getting short-changed have to do with the Earth's climate?

It goes to the credibility, or actually the lack there of, for the Daily Liar that Eagle cited in his claim that the data was fudged. The Daily Liar pays their sources to lie.
Pay attention if you are going to post.

 

[Liminal]

Here are eight reasons why.

Eight Pseudoscientific Climate Claims Debunked by Real Scientists BillMoyers.com

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

Or perhaphs those of you who have admitted to be ignorant of the subject should make an effort to become less ignorant.

Here's a few tips if you wish to become less ignorant regarding the subject.

1) Go to your local public library.

2) Get a library card.

3) Request a book entitled "The Hockey Stick Illusion".

Educate yourself or remain ignorant.

Here are eight reasons why.

Eight Pseudoscientific Climate Claims Debunked by Real Scientists BillMoyers.com

Why are people like you, who are admittedly ignorant regarding the subject of climate change, influenced so easily by strawman arguments?

Please explain.

I don't understand the science any better than you do, so I rely on people with actual expertise.

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

Hockey huh, well I couldn't find that one. Will this book do?
The Magic Hockey Stick Paperback by Peter Maloney Puffin Books United States 9780142300152 Paperback Reprint - The Book Depository US

 

[Dot Com]

Right for 27 years 1981 Hansen study finds warming trend that could raise sea levels ThinkProgress

In fact, 27 years ago Thursday, James Hansen and six other NASA atmospheric physicists, published a seminal article in Science, “Climate Impact of Increasing Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide.” The paper has a number of caveats, as befits a major projection before modern climate models and modern supercomputers were available, before we had decades of verifying observations, and before we knew just how fast greenhouse gas emissions would rise. But the analysis bears up unbelievably well — any one of us would be delighted if we published something a quarter century ago that was this prescient:


The global temperature rose 0.2°C between the middle 1960s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

The 1980s warmed, the Northwest passage opened, the drought prone-regions have emerged, and sea level rise is a top worry (even if Greenland has emerged as more troublesome than West Antarctica). I believe the threat of drought and sea level rise remain the to gravest threats that climate change poses.

When Dr. James Hansen made those predictions in 1981, obese junkies on the radio were claiming that there was no warming at all. And continued to make that claim for another 20 years. Then it became evident to everyone that there was, indeed, a warming going on. So then, the tune changed to 'It's all natural'. The deniers have failed for the last thirty years to contribute anything at all credible to understanding the climate. All they have done is stand in left field doing the 'neener, neener' routine.

In the meantime, the real scientists have continued to increase our understanding of the climate. And the deniars have continued to flaunt their incredible ignorance and ability to pull lies out of their asses.

good point/s. Thank you

 

[Muhammed]

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

LOL. Dr. James Hansen is an internationally respected scientist, with many published articles to his name. He is also considered to be a leading authority on atmospheric physics. And who are you, Walleyes? A anonymous poster on the internet that doesn't even bother to back up his claims with links.

Hanson is respected by foolish morons.

Says the who thinks the Daily Liar is a respected source!

Your concession is respectfully accepeted.

 

[jc456]

How the fuck would you know who has expertise if you are so ignorant regarding the subject?

Myself, I am an expert.

Maybe some climate change deniers are simply ignorant and misguided......they might not all be completely dishonest.

And if his predictions weren't 300% off with more CO2 than even he could have imagined his opinion might matter. However, he abandoned science for political activism long ago. He is no longer credible.

LOL. Dr. James Hansen is an internationally respected scientist, with many published articles to his name. He is also considered to be a leading authority on atmospheric physics. And who are you, Walleyes? A anonymous poster on the internet that doesn't even bother to back up his claims with links.

Hanson is respected by foolish morons.

Says the who thinks the Daily Liar is a respected source!

you all crack me up when you think you can pofo some news organization. Yet you have no counter point except to make fun of them. Truly classless. When is it you all will get some character?

 

[jc456]

still haven't seen anything debunked in this entire thread. interesting. No valid arguments from the OP I see.