Climate Change Deniers are Almost Extinct

[Bigfoot]

..and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature.

 

[Old Rocks]

A chip off the old ice block

 

[CrusaderFrank]

..and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature.

and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.

There, peer reviewed

 

[Bigfoot]

Yeah, kind of inconvenient truth there Old Farts. The largest ice sheet in the world has been growing and cooling for many years. Oh and by the way...it's HUGE when compared to that little ice sheet you call the arctic. See ice.

 

[Old Rocks]

The largest ice sheet in the world is losing gigatons of ice every year. And while it is the largest, the loss of the Arctic Ice is what is affecting the north hemisphere weather at present. Agin, Bigfool, if you are going to make claims, back them up. With something other than someone with no more evidence than you have presented.

A chip off the old ice block

 

[Old Rocks]

..and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature.

and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.

There, peer reviewed

Now, Frankie Boy, I do beleive that you and Bigfool are peers.

 

[Bigfoot]

..and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.

 

[Saigon]

..and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.

and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.

Oh dear.

Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves

The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.

If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:

The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change


Please acknowledge this point.

 

[RollingThunder]

..and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.

and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.

Oh dear.

Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves

The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.

If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:

The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change


Please acknowledge this point.

Good post but please don't hold your breath waiting for any of these denier cultists to acknowledge any point of fact, no matter how well you substantiate it with scientific evidence. Denying reality is their 'thing', and they aren't going to let you confuse them with the facts of the matter. When you conclusively debunk the errors, lies and misinformation in their posts, they will usually just ignore you and change the subject, sliding off into one of their others myths. They much prefer to live in their rightwingnut fantasy-world, filled with conspiracies theories and anti-science myths about evolution, global warming, vaccines, faked moon landings, gay agendas, Obama's birth certificate and God knows what. I appreciated all the good work you do here to debunk the misinformation and lies that these denier cult dupes parrot at the behest of their puppet master in the fossil fuel industry. It is good that this drivel gets debunked with the scientific facts but don't ever expect to convince any of these cultists that they are mistaken. Deprogramming a Moonie or a Mormon would be a snap in comparison to cracking the denier cultists' shell of delusion and partisan ideological insanity.

 

[skookerasbil]

That's a hoot. You have never yet managed to even come close to substantiating any of your retarded denier cult "claims" with any real evidence, let alone actually "proving" them.

Actually, I just shredded your claim that the climate models do a good job.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...e-have-predicted-it-should-5.html#post5942623

Oh davedumb, I long ago gave up on "convincing" clueless retards like you. Now I'm content with just mocking you for the ignorant moronic dupe that you are, as I debunk your denier cult myths and lies with the scientific facts.

Really? Where have you done that?

Oh....like right here where I debunk the thread you started that you just mentioned, you hopelessly confused retard.

Also pretty much every time I encounter your nonsensical drivel and bullshit on here, I give it a thorough debunking. Easy to do with the moronic anti-scientific crap you post.

 

[skookerasbil]

To all you science dummies................

How Democrats have shifted on climate, energy since 2008


Been saying it for two years..........this shit doesnt matter anymore due to economic realities on the ground. Real always trumps fantasy when it comes down to most things

Only the bonafide k00k alarmist doesnt recognize he's on the escalator down......and sometimes, I split my sides laughing about it when I think of this forum. ANd after November, I'll be laughing even harder!!! The only things these meatheads have to hang their hats on is the next lawsuit!!

 

[daveman]

Oh....like right here where I debunk the thread you started that you just mentioned, you hopelessly confused retard.

Also pretty much every time I encounter your nonsensical drivel and bullshit on here, I give it a thorough debunking. Easy to do with the moronic anti-scientific crap you post.

See, now you're just lying. The OP is a summary of a paper published in Climate Dynamics journal -- not a blog.

The link in your OP leads to a denier cult blog which cherry-picks, mangles and distorts the science it picks up from other sites. The interpretation they put on it has nothing to do with the actual science.

Since you start off with a falsehood, everything that follows may be safely discarded.

 

[daveman]

Models? Did someone say models?

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v485/n7399/full/nature11014.html

Warming experiments are increasingly relied on to estimate plant responses to global climate change1, 2. For experiments to provide meaningful predictions of future responses, they should reflect the empirical record of responses to temperature variability and recent warming, including advances in the timing of flowering and leafing3, 4, 5. We compared phenology (the timing of recurring life history events) in observational studies and warming experiments spanning four continents and 1,634 plant species using a common measure of temperature sensitivity (change in days per degree Celsius). We show that warming experiments underpredict advances in the timing of flowering and leafing by 8.5-fold and 4.0-fold, respectively, compared with long-term observations. For species that were common to both study types, the experimental results did not match the observational data in sign or magnitude. The observational data also showed that species that flower earliest in the spring have the highest temperature sensitivities, but this trend was not reflected in the experimental data. These significant mismatches seem to be unrelated to the study length or to the degree of manipulated warming in experiments. The discrepancy between experiments and observations, however, could arise from complex interactions among multiple drivers in the observational data, or it could arise from remediable artefacts in the experiments that result in lower irradiance and drier soils, thus dampening the phenological responses to manipulated warming. Our results introduce uncertainty into ecosystem models that are informed solely by experiments and suggest that responses to climate change that are predicted using such models should be re-evaluated.​

The models suck.

 

[RollingThunder]

See, now you're just lying. The OP is a summary of a paper published in Climate Dynamics journal -- not a blog.

The link in your OP leads to a denier cult blog which cherry-picks, mangles and distorts the science it picks up from other sites. The interpretation they put on it has nothing to do with the actual science.

Since you start off with a falsehood, everything that follows may be safely discarded.

Yeah, that's what everybody says about your fraudulent posts, davedumb.

You started off by linking this thread to one of the idiotic ones you started and claiming that you had just "shredded" the claim that climate models do a good job. I pointed out that I had immediately debunked your thread right after you started it. You're too retarded to comprehend what happens so you're in denial about the fact that your OP was a bunch of phony balony from a denier cult blog misleadingly called "CO2Science" that is run by a couple of denier cult wack-jobs. Now, even more idiotically, you're trying to deny that your OP links to a denier cult blog. Here's is the link in your OP:

Heavy Precipitation Over the US: Has it Increased as Some have Predicted it Should?

It takes you to this totally discredited "CO2Science" blog.

Koch Industries Climate Denial Front Group
"Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change"

$60,000 received from Koch foundations 2005-2010 [Total Koch foundation grants 1997-2010: $85,000]

The Center is run by Sherwood Idso and his sons Craig and Keith, long-time climate science deniers. The Center runs the climate science denial site CO2science.org.


FACTSHEET: Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Center for the Study of CO2 and Climate Change

The Center means of disseminating information, their magazine and website CO2 Science, includes articles both questioning the existence of climate change as well as touting the benefits to the biosphere from carbon dioxide enrichment. All aspects of climate change and its predicted effects - from melting ice caps to species extinction, to more severe weather - are criticized by the Center and either refuted or presented as beneficial. Fred Palmer, head of Western Fuels, said about the center: "The Center's viewpoint is a needed antidote to the misleading and usually erroneous scientific claims emanating from the Federal scientific establishment and adopted by leading politicians, such as Vice President Al Gore." The Center has since tried to distance itself from the Western Fuels Association, however, the Center is run by Keith and Craig Idso, along with their father, Sherwood. Both Idso brothers have been on the Western Fuels payroll at one time or another. Keith Idso, then a doctoral candidate at the University of Arizona, was a paid expert witness for Western Fuels Association at a 1995 Minnesota Public Utilities commission hearing in St. Paul, MN, along with MIT's Richard Lindzen, Patrick Michaels, and Robert Balling (The Heat is On). According to news from Basin Electr ic, a Western Fuels Association member, Craig Idso produced a report, "The Greening of Planet Earth." Its Progression from Hypothesis to Theory," in January 1998 for the Western Fuels Association (Basin Electric Latest News no date given).

Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change has received $100,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We need federal funding to deprogram the warmers

How else do you deal with cult members

 

[westwall]

..and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.

and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.

Oh dear.

Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves

The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.

If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:

The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change


Please acknowledge this point.

Oh my oh my, the masters of cherry picking are at it again....Below are just TWO of the dozens of sites that show categorically you're full of horse dung. And one of them is one of your very own warmist sites...FAIL.

"What about the ice mass of Antarctica? Along with land based ice, which can raise sea levels when melted into the ocean, another significant indicator of polar temperature is the extent of floating sea ice. As the above table prepared by researchers at the University of Illinois indicates, the actual sea ice surrounding Antarctica is well above average. The black line represents the last 12 months of sea ice area, based on satellite data. You can see the sea ice reached a peak of 15 million square kilometers around September, during the peak of the southern winter. You can see it dropped to a low of 2 million square kilometers in mid-February, at the height of the southern summer. Currently the sea ice surrounding Antarctica is 7 million square kilometers and rising. The red line, however, is what is significant, because the red line indicates whether or not the sea ice is above or below the historical norm. And as you can see, as of May 2009, Antarctic sea ice is about 1.0 million square kilometers above normal."

The Real Facts on Increasing Antarctic Ice | Environmental News, Articles & Information | Global Warming News | EcoWorld


"Antarctic sea ice has shown long term growth since satellites began measurements in 1979. This is an observation that has been often cited by skeptics as proof against global warming. However, in all the skeptic articles I've read, not one has raised the crucial question: why is Antarctic sea ice increasing?"

Why is Antarctic sea ice increasing?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If we added CO2 to a black hole...well the consequences are just too horrible to even contemplate

 

[RollingThunder]

If we added CO2 to a black hole...well the consequences are just too horrible to even contemplate

"Black hole"???.....you must mean the inside of your skull, CrazyFruitcake.

 

[RollingThunder]

..and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.

and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.

Oh dear.

Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves

The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.

If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:

The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change


Please acknowledge this point.

Oh my oh my, the masters of cherry picking are at it again....

You are, of course, referring to yourself and your denier cult butt-buddies.

Below are just TWO of the dozens of sites that show categorically you're full of horse dung. And one of them is one of your very own warmist sites...FAIL.

That's another one of your many delusions, walleyedretard. In fact, neither one of those sites shows anything of the sort. The first site you quoted is a denier cult blog and it is totally full of crap about everything. Your second citation explains why the sea ice is growing slightly around Antarctica due to climate change. Here's the actual facts that debunk the lies and misinformation on that denier cult blog.

Ice Shelves - Disintegration
National Snow and Ice Data Center
State of the Cryosphere
(excerpts)
Over the past several decades meteorological records have revealed atmospheric warming on the Antarctic Peninsula, and the northernmost ice shelves on the peninsula have retreated dramatically (Vaughan and Doake 1996). The most pronounced ice shelf retreat has occurred on the Larsen Ice Shelf, located on the eastern side of the Antarctic Peninsula's northern tip. The shelf is divided into four regions from north to south: A, B, C, and D. In January 1995, after several decades of warming and years of gradual retreat, the Larsen A Ice Shelf underwent a type of retreat that was, at that time, unprecedented. The breakup pattern in the Larsen A, in which roughly 1,500 square kilometers suddenly disintegrated rapidly into small sliver-shaped icebergs, appeared to indicate a new style of ice shelf response to pronounced climate warming. To the south, the Larsen B saw the calving of a 70- by 25-kilometer iceberg. This ordinary calving event received more public attention but the disintegration event was more significant to researchers studying the area. (See Antarctic Ice Shelves and Icebergs: Events in the Northern Larsen Ice Shelf and Their Importance.) In 2002, satellites recorded an even larger disintegration than what occurred in 1995 (see Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events: Larsen B Ice Shelf Collapses in Antarctica). Between 31 January and 5 March 2002, approximately 3,250 square kilometers of the Larsen B shattered, releasing 720 billion tons of ice into the Weddell Sea. It was the largest single disintegration event in 30 years of ice shelf monitoring. Preliminary studies of sediment cores suggest that it may have been this ice shelf's first collapse in 12,000 years (see Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events: Seafloor Evidence of Larsen Ice Sheet Breakup).

Also on the Antarctic Peninsula, southwest of the Larsen Ice Shelf, is the Wilkins Ice Shelf. In 1998, the northern part of that ice shelf broke up, although the ice fragments remained in place for the next decade. In 2008, three significant breakups occurred. The first breakup began in late February 2008, on the western part of the shelf, between Charcot and Latady Islands. This breakup style was very similar to the event previously seen on the Larsen A and B. The event occurred during the Southern Hemisphere summer, after an extensive melt season, although no melt ponds were observed. Beginning in May 2008, the western part of the shelf underwent further retreat, again in the disintegration style, despite cold autumn surface conditions. Later in June and July, a substantial portion of the northern part of the shelf also broke up. The breakups occurring between May and July 2008 were especially significant because they happened during the Southern Hemisphere's cold season. The Wilkins Ice Shelf had broken up in 1998, but the ice blocks remained frozen in place for a decade, held together partly by the accumulation of snowfall. Radar images acquired in 2008 showed a darkening in the areas between ice blocks, followed by the gradual disappearance of these snowy, icy areas. The 2008 imagery indicated thinning between ice blocks, despite winter conditions, and suggested melting from beneath, due to warm water under the ice shelf. As a result of ice loss to the north, rifts south of the 1998 breakup area began to widen, leading to a series of rapid moderate to large iceberg calvings. Through late winter of 2008, the remaining two-thirds of the shelf stabilized between Latady and Alexander Islands, although fresh cracks appeared on the shelf in late November 2008. In April 2009, the ice bridge connecting the remnant shelf to ice fragments around Charcot Island gave way.

 

[westwall]

Oh dear.

Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves

The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.

If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:

The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change


Please acknowledge this point.

Oh my oh my, the masters of cherry picking are at it again....

You are, of course, referring to yourself and your denier cult butt-buddies.

Below are just TWO of the dozens of sites that show categorically you're full of horse dung. And one of them is one of your very own warmist sites...FAIL.

That's another one of your many delusions, walleyedretard. In fact, neither one of those sites shows anything of the sort. The first site you quoted is a denier cult blog and it is totally full of crap about everything. Your second citation explains why the sea ice is growing slightly around Antarctica due to climate change. Here's the actual facts that debunk the lies and misinformation on that denier cult blog.

Ice Shelves - Disintegration
National Snow and Ice Data Center
State of the Cryosphere
(excerpts)
Over the past several decades meteorological records have revealed atmospheric warming on the Antarctic Peninsula, and the northernmost ice shelves on the peninsula have retreated dramatically (Vaughan and Doake 1996). The most pronounced ice shelf retreat has occurred on the Larsen Ice Shelf, located on the eastern side of the Antarctic Peninsula's northern tip. The shelf is divided into four regions from north to south: A, B, C, and D. In January 1995, after several decades of warming and years of gradual retreat, the Larsen A Ice Shelf underwent a type of retreat that was, at that time, unprecedented. The breakup pattern in the Larsen A, in which roughly 1,500 square kilometers suddenly disintegrated rapidly into small sliver-shaped icebergs, appeared to indicate a new style of ice shelf response to pronounced climate warming. To the south, the Larsen B saw the calving of a 70- by 25-kilometer iceberg. This ordinary calving event received more public attention but the disintegration event was more significant to researchers studying the area. (See Antarctic Ice Shelves and Icebergs: Events in the Northern Larsen Ice Shelf and Their Importance.) In 2002, satellites recorded an even larger disintegration than what occurred in 1995 (see Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events: Larsen B Ice Shelf Collapses in Antarctica). Between 31 January and 5 March 2002, approximately 3,250 square kilometers of the Larsen B shattered, releasing 720 billion tons of ice into the Weddell Sea. It was the largest single disintegration event in 30 years of ice shelf monitoring. Preliminary studies of sediment cores suggest that it may have been this ice shelf's first collapse in 12,000 years (see Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events: Seafloor Evidence of Larsen Ice Sheet Breakup).

Also on the Antarctic Peninsula, southwest of the Larsen Ice Shelf, is the Wilkins Ice Shelf. In 1998, the northern part of that ice shelf broke up, although the ice fragments remained in place for the next decade. In 2008, three significant breakups occurred. The first breakup began in late February 2008, on the western part of the shelf, between Charcot and Latady Islands. This breakup style was very similar to the event previously seen on the Larsen A and B. The event occurred during the Southern Hemisphere summer, after an extensive melt season, although no melt ponds were observed. Beginning in May 2008, the western part of the shelf underwent further retreat, again in the disintegration style, despite cold autumn surface conditions. Later in June and July, a substantial portion of the northern part of the shelf also broke up. The breakups occurring between May and July 2008 were especially significant because they happened during the Southern Hemisphere's cold season. The Wilkins Ice Shelf had broken up in 1998, but the ice blocks remained frozen in place for a decade, held together partly by the accumulation of snowfall. Radar images acquired in 2008 showed a darkening in the areas between ice blocks, followed by the gradual disappearance of these snowy, icy areas. The 2008 imagery indicated thinning between ice blocks, despite winter conditions, and suggested melting from beneath, due to warm water under the ice shelf. As a result of ice loss to the north, rifts south of the 1998 breakup area began to widen, leading to a series of rapid moderate to large iceberg calvings. Through late winter of 2008, the remaining two-thirds of the shelf stabilized between Latady and Alexander Islands, although fresh cracks appeared on the shelf in late November 2008. In April 2009, the ice bridge connecting the remnant shelf to ice fragments around Charcot Island gave way.

You so funny! No one, and I mean NO ONE, reads your mindless drivel. Whenever a thinking person see's your dolded big print we laugh and pass right over it. Next time try leaving it normal and you may get a response...if it actually makes sense.

But the crap you post right now....no one even looks at it junior.