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link please..quotes...anything ?..or just you shiity as I bets and imaginings ?
The 9/11 Lies Are Out There: Editor's Notes - Popular MechanicsWe assembled a team of reporters and researchers, including professional fact checkers and the editors of PM, and methodically analyzed all 16 conspiracy claims. We interviewed scores of engineers, aviation experts, military officials, eyewitnesses and members of the investigative teams who have held the wreckage of the attacks in their own hands. We pored over photography, maps, blueprints, aviation logs and transcripts. In every single instance, we found that the facts used by conspiracy theorists to support their fantasies were mistaken, misunderstood or deliberately falsified.
Eight years of futility? What a clueless jackass. The "point" is most OCTAs
don't know shit about that day and you all keep proving it over and over. You guys make claims and when you are shown they are wrong you ignore it, say it doesn't matter, or find a new false claim to replace the old. I will self administer a gag order versus wasting my time with liars and/or those who are not sincere. Call it what you want, doesn't matter to me.
Poor Curvelight..
By all measurable yardsticks, the "movement" is a total disaster. Lets look at it:
Where are the admissions of guilt by those the "movement" routinely implicates?
There aren't any.
Where are the court cases based on evidence or based on the so-called expert testimonies? There aren't any.
Where are the candidates running for office on a platform that fully holds your whackjob camp's views? There are few if any.
Where is, by the way, any consensus about what you whackos beleive happened on 9/11/01; you punks are all over the map? There isn't any consensus.
By any and all measurable goals, by any yardstick, the "movement" is a total failure. Which goes hand in hand with most, if not all, of the so-called leaders of the "movement" who are deposed morons who are out of work or are widely regarded as crackposts (aka total failures).
As for being shown we are "wrong", the next time you do it will be the first time you do it.
A few threads ago, you kept harping on a phone call that lasted for something like zero minutes or something like that. Your proof, one select piece of evidence showing a single call that didn't go through.
Did you read the actual transcript of the ZM trial? That may shed some light on the topic.
Anyway, here is a real-life FBI report:
http://www.911myths.com/images/7/78/FBI_compilation_re_Flight_77_calls.pdf
detailing the calls to Mr. Olson.
In the "mortal kombat" mode of things: CC WINZ!
Candy I posted this FBI report several days ago, before I placed Curvelight on Ignore. I'm sure he /she/it is much to dense to understand it. But you can keep trying.
oh fuck of with your popular mechanics LIL OLLIE ...lol..there is no quotes from these people and no clear indication of their contribution to the story ..you even have James Quintiere, Ph.D. of NIST who called for a Re-investigation ..called the results questionable...encouraged his peers to be conspiracy theorist..complained the investigation was blocked..and fact finding deterred... what fraud you are
Mark RobertsFebruary, 2009. Hi there. The 9/11 "truth" movement has dried up and blown away, having achieved none of its stated objectives or even bothering to get a single significant claim correct. See the "What's New" section below to get an idea of the type of people who still cling to kooky 9/11 delusions. I've only spent a few hours updating this site since early 2008, and won't be updating it in the future unless big news arises. I have several hundred links that I could add to the several thousand here, but enough is enough.
http://www.jod911.com/sounds.pdfAsbestos and Collapse Warnings well before 9/11 Levine's warning In the years afterward, the man who had invented the original wet-asbestos spray fireproofing process, the late Herbert Levine, often voiced a warning. If a fire breaks out above the 64th floor, that building will fall down, he frequently said, according to his lawyer and other professionals who knew him.
link please..quotes...anything ?..or just you shiity as I bets and imaginings ?
Thought you would never ask. This could take a while, there are just so many.......
The 9/11 Lies Are Out There: Editor's Notes - Popular MechanicsWe assembled a team of reporters and researchers, including professional fact checkers and the editors of PM, and methodically analyzed all 16 conspiracy claims. We interviewed scores of engineers, aviation experts, military officials, eyewitnesses and members of the investigative teams who have held the wreckage of the attacks in their own hands. We pored over photography, maps, blueprints, aviation logs and transcripts. In every single instance, we found that the facts used by conspiracy theorists to support their fantasies were mistaken, misunderstood or deliberately falsified.
And then there's:
Bill Crowley special agent, FBI
Ron Dokell president, Demolition Consultants
Richard Gazarik staff writer, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Yates Gladwell pilot, VF Corp.
Michael K. Hynes, Ed.D.,
ATP, CFI, A&P/IA president, Hynes Aviation Services; expert, aviation crashes
Ed Jacoby Jr. director,
New York State Emergency Management Office (Ret.); chairman, New York State Disaster Preparedness Commission (Ret.)
Johnstown-Cambria County Airport Authority
Cindi Lash staff writer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Matthew McCormick manager, survival factors division, National Transportation Safety Board (Ret.)
Wallace Miller coroner, Somerset County, PA
Robert Nagan meteorological technician, Climate Services Branch, National Climatic Data Center
Dave Newell director, aviation and travel, VF Corp.
James O’Toole politics editor, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Pennsylvania State Police Public Information Office
Jeff Pillets senior writer,
The Record, Hackensack, NJ
Jeff Rienbold director, Flight 93 National Memorial, National Park Service
Dennis Roddy staff writer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Master Sgt. David Somdahl public affairs officer,
119th Wing, North Dakota
Air National Guard
Mark Stahl photographer; eyewitness, United Airlines Flight 93 crash scene
Air Defense
Lt. Col. Skip Aldous (Ret.) squadron commander,
U.S. Air Force
Tech. Sgt. Laura Bosco public affairs officer,
Tyndall Air Force Base
Boston Center regional air traffic control
Laura Brown spokeswoman,
Federal Aviation Administration
Todd Curtis, Ph.D. founder, Airsafe.com; president, Airsafe.com Foundation
Keith Halloway public affairs officer, National Transportation Safety Board
Ted Lopatkiewicz director, public affairs, National Transportation Safety Board
Maj. Douglas Martin public affairs officer,
North American Aerospace Defense Command
Lt. Herbert McConnell public affairs officer,
Andrews AFB
Michael Perini public affairs officer, North American Aerospace Defense Command
John Pike director, GlobalSecurity.org
Hank Price spokesman, Federal
Aviation Administration
Warren Robak RAND Corp.
Bill Shumann spokesman,
Federal Aviation Administration
Louis Walsh public affairs officer, Eglin AFB
Chris Yates aviation security editor, analyst, Jane’s Transport
Aviation
Fred E.C. Culick, Ph.D., S.B., S.M. professor of aeronautics, California Institute of Technology
Clint Oster professor of public and environmental affairs, Indiana University; aviation safety expert
Capt. Bill Scott (Ret. USAF) Rocky Mountain bureau chief, Aviation Week
Bill Uher News Media Office, NASA Langley Research Center
Col. Ed Walby (Ret. USAF)
director, business development, HALE Systems Enterprise, Unmanned Systems, Northrop Grumman
Image Analysis
William F. Baker member, FEMA Probe Team; partner, Skidmore, Owings, Merrill
W. Gene Corley, Ph.D., P.E., S.E. senior vice president, CTL Group; director,
FEMA Probe Team
Bill Daly senior vice president, Control Risks Group
Steve Douglass image analysis consultant, Aviation Week
Thomas R. Edwards, Ph.D. founder, TREC; video forensics expert.
Ronald Greeley, Ph.D. professor of geology, Arizona State University
Rob Howard freelance photographer; WTC eyewitness
Robert L. Parker, Ph.D. professor of geophysics,
University of California, San Diego
Structural Engineering / Building Collapse
Farid Alfawakhiri, Ph.D. senior engineer, American Institute of Steel Construction
David Biggs, P.E. structural engineer, Ryan-Biggs Associates; member, ASCE team for FEMA report
Robert Clarke structural engineer, Controlled Demolitions Group Ltd.
Glenn Corbett technical editor, Fire Engineering; member, NIST advisory committee
Vincent Dunn deputy fire chief (Ret.), FDNY; author, The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety
John Fisher, Ph.D. professor of civil engineering, Lehigh University; professor emeritus, Center for Advanced Technology; member, FEMA Probe Team
Ken Hays executive vice president, Masonry Arts
Christoph Hoffmann, Ph.D. professor of computer science, Purdue University; project director, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University
Allyn E. Kilsheimer, P.E.
CEO, KCE Structural Engineers PC; chief structural engineer, Phoenix project; expert in blast recovery, concrete structures, emergency response
Won-Young Kim, Ph.D. seismologist, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University
William Koplitz photo desk manager, FEMA
John Labriola freelance photographer, WTC survivor
Arthur Lerner-Lam, Ph.D. seismologist; director,
Earth Institute, Center for Hazards and Risk Research, Columbia University
James Quintiere, Ph.D. professor of engineering, University of Maryland member, NIST advisory committee
Steve Riskus freelance photographer; eyewitness, Pentagon crash
Van Romero, Ph.D. vice president, New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
Christine Shaffer spokesperson, Viracon
Mete Sozen, Ph.D., S.E. Kettelhut Distinguished Professor of Structural Engineering, Purdue University; member, Pentagon Building Performance Report; project conception, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University
Shyam Sunder, Sc.D.
acting deputy director, lead investigator, Building and Fire Research Laboratory, National Institute of Standards and Technology
Mary Tobin science writer, media relations, Earth Institute, Columbia University
Forman Williams, Ph.D. professor of engineering, physics, combustion, University of California,
San Diego; member, advisory committee, National Institute of Standards and Technology
How many more you want?
stupid minutia. the guys wife was just killed and you are worried about him knowing if it was an airphone or a cell phone.That is a GREAT example of how OCTAs
practice dishonesty and hypocrisy on regular basis. The dumbasses choose to point the loose change version of a pro-OCTA site while simultaneously ignoring FBI evidence used in a Federal trial that convicted a terrorist. This is what it boils down to:
1. Olson claimed he received (at least) two phone calls from his wife via her cell phone and she informed him about the hijacking. He later changes it to saying it was an air phone. The major fuck up isn't changing how she called. He didn't answer the phone as it was someone else who fielded the calls and transferred them to him. How would he possibly know what type of phone she used?
and you have no evidence they didnt speak.2. The FBI proved at ZM's trial there was no evidence olson spoke with his wife. (FBI exhibit P200054)
talk about bullshitting... why dont you tell us again how a flight data recorder cant record more tha n25 hours, you jackass!!3. OCTA's ignore that fact. They choose to use bullshit guessing when an unquestionable fact is bitch slapping their mouths shut.
why is it so important? there are airphone records that calls were made but they dont know who made them. whats the big deal? you trying to prove the calls never happened is just about the most ridiculous thing i have seen so far (and you have made some pretty ridiculous statements)Let's look at some more entertaining shit. Look how the hack OCTA site lies to make the OCT appear stronger than it is:
"Olson doesn't know if the calls were made from her cell phone or the telephone on the plane."
There are a ton of records showing Ted claimed it was her cell or air phone but that hack site lies and says he doesn't know. Fucking hypocrites.
you provide two quites one of total hearsay ..the other...who the fuck is mark roberts ??
and an examination of James Quintiere, statements show he completely disagrees with popular mechanics even yet he is listed...it is a joke ollie
I stopped reading after the first question. You set up a ridiculous strawman and try to use that as evidence the Truth movement is a waste? Guess to cowards like you who don't understand the concept of civic duty it would seem like a waste.
Either you produce results or you're a failure.
You have produced zero results.
You are, there fore, a failure.
Sorry
Hahahaha! Arrogant fucks like you actually think you have done anything?
you provide two quites one of total hearsay ..the other...who the fuck is mark roberts ??
and an examination of James Quintiere, statements show he completely disagrees with popular mechanics even yet he is listed...it is a joke ollie
Ah so you've never heard of Mark Roberts, that is interesting.
Your Alex Jones has called the man an absolute Demon. I wonder why he would say that?
stupid minutia. the guys wife was just killed and you are worried about him knowing if it was an airphone or a cell phone.That is a GREAT example of how OCTAs
practice dishonesty and hypocrisy on regular basis. The dumbasses choose to point the loose change version of a pro-OCTA site while simultaneously ignoring FBI evidence used in a Federal trial that convicted a terrorist. This is what it boils down to:
1. Olson claimed he received (at least) two phone calls from his wife via her cell phone and she informed him about the hijacking. He later changes it to saying it was an air phone. The major fuck up isn't changing how she called. He didn't answer the phone as it was someone else who fielded the calls and transferred them to him. How would he possibly know what type of phone she used?
and you have no evidence they didnt speak.2. The FBI proved at ZM's trial there was no evidence olson spoke with his wife. (FBI exhibit P200054)
talk about bullshitting... why dont you tell us again how a flight data recorder cant record more tha n25 hours, you jackass!!3. OCTA's ignore that fact. They choose to use bullshit guessing when an unquestionable fact is bitch slapping their mouths shut.
why is it so important? there are airphone records that calls were made but they dont know who made them. whats the big deal? you trying to prove the calls never happened is just about the most ridiculous thing i have seen so far (and you have made some pretty ridiculous statements)Let's look at some more entertaining shit. Look how the hack OCTA site lies to make the OCT appear stronger than it is:
"Olson doesn't know if the calls were made from her cell phone or the telephone on the plane."
There are a ton of records showing Ted claimed it was her cell or air phone but that hack site lies and says he doesn't know. Fucking hypocrites.
Either you produce results or you're a failure.
You have produced zero results.
You are, there fore, a failure.
Sorry
Hahahaha! Arrogant fucks like you actually think you have done anything?
Well, we all know YOU haven't so you have zero room to talk...
Or is there some sort of court case on 9/11 somewhere that I don't know about?
Hahahaha! Arrogant fucks like you actually think you have done anything?
Well, we all know YOU haven't so you have zero room to talk...
Or is there some sort of court case on 9/11 somewhere that I don't know about?
Here's another great example of the strawman move complete with total hypocrisy and complete ignorance.
Strawman:
You claim the lack of a case on 9/11 is proof the OCT is true.
Hypocrisy:
The OCT has never been proven.
Ignorance:
There are several court cases under FOIA to get information the government has systematically tried to keep secret.
You can't stop lying can you? You just keep repeating lies over and over because you know your OCTA buddies will never call you out because none of you have a single ounce of honesty. I've never said FDRs can NEVER record more than 25 hours and you know that. Lie some more you absolute worthless little ****.
Once 25 hours have been spent the data is looped to always retain the most recent 25 hours.
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Do you see what that says? After 25 hours new data is recorded over older data.....that is the fucking loop.
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Then you keep claiming the door was always shut. The problem with that einstein is it came from the same source where you said it recorded the last 42 hours. I've blown that fucking claim to bits.
you stupid fuck!! the FBI provided evidence there was no call between barb and ted? where the fuck is this? they did say they couldnt confim it but only a stupid fuck would claim that is evidence they didnt talk.Look how you fucking dance! I point out that pro-OCTA site flat out lies and you ignore it! That site claims Ted never stated he said his wife called via cell and airphone and you ignore that lie? (MAKES PERFEECT SENSE! YOU LIE EVERY TIME YOU CAN'T DEFEND A CLAIM TOO!). Have you ever complained about links from prison planet or any other truther site? Fucking. Hypocrite.
Good job on once again ignoring the fact the FBI provided evidence there was no call between Barb and Ted! You are so fucking stupid you respond to that by bringing up the FDR? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
You guys are some of the biggest worthless pieces of shit lying ***** I've ever seen gathered in one spot. Why do you even discuss 9E? You don't give a fuck about those who died and lost loved ones. You don't give a fuck how many more have been needlessly killed since then. You hate the victims families because they are the source of the Truther Movement but you don't have the balls to admit. You hate america because you would prefer living in a nation where questioning the government could get you jailed. Now go on and tell some more lies because that is all you are capable of doing. For Christmas maybe you could go to the ground zero memorial and piss all over it. Naw, you don't have the balls to say what you believe outside the internet. Lazy ****.
Ignorance:
There are several court cases under FOIA to get information the government has systematically tried to keep secret.
you provide two quites one of total hearsay ..the other...who the fuck is mark roberts ??
and an examination of James Quintiere, statements show he completely disagrees with popular mechanics even yet he is listed...it is a joke ollie
Ah so you've never heard of Mark Roberts, that is interesting.
Your Alex Jones has called the man an absolute Demon. I wonder why he would say that?
probably because its true ..judging from his quote he is some popular mechanics sci fi writer or debunker front man ...but you did not address the issue did you Ollie.. you provided me with a bogus list of names of mostly PR people and magazine writers and of the few experts listed we know at least one has called for a new investigation..then when asked for quotes you provided some he said she said story from some guy with no listed credentials or name and who's statement is contradictory to the findings of NIST and then some guy with a name but still no credentials listed giving his shitty ass editorial of opinion those that question 9/11...who do you think you are fooling...yourself...mabey
this mark Robert fucks characterization of those that question was enough to know on study of this clot was warranted and still you have failed to supply any valid nams or statements and instead have created a distraction...whoever the fuck mark Roberts is he plays no important role in determining the facts of 9/11 and Ollie except for setting up a signal tower I doubt there is much you can do better than I ...SO DONT PRETEND