Civilization & Utopia

Flanders

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Two Democrats in Indiana have been found guilty of submitting unauthorized names on the petition that placed then-Sen. Barack Obama on the 2008 presidential election primary ballot, meaning he likely did not qualify.

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“In reality, although no single instance or aspect of vote fraud was likely enough to tip the election for Obama, the aggregate of their [Democrats] corrupt activities – including illegal campaign donations, taking advantage of states without voter ID requirements, military ballots delivered too late … may well have been,” the analysis said.

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Prosecutor Stan Levco told Fox, “I think this helped uphold the integrity of the electoral system. Their verdict of guilt is not a verdict against Democrats, but for honest and fair elections.”

The report also found the election rolls nationwide in shambles. Pew Research Center published a report revealing election rolls in a shambles nationwide. It found:

∙ 24 million invalid or inaccurate voter registrations

∙ 1.8 million deceased voters

∙ 2.75 million registered in multiple states.

Jury: Fraud put Obama on '08 ballot
Democrat officials convicted of making up names for qualifying petition
Published: 21 hours ago

Jury: Fraud put Obama on ?08 ballot

What’s done is done. Nonetheless, Americans should not take contemporary election fraud lightly. I never believed that Hussein won either election on the up and up. The election in 2012 was so obviously crooked only fools believe it wasn’t rigged. A comparison to 2008 shows that Democrats no longer bother to hide the fraud. So what do you think 2014 and 2016 will be like? My guess is that a substantial number of voters will be so happy Hussein cannot run in 2016 they will do less to combat voter fraud than they did in 2008 and 2012. That’s a big mistake because another Socialist victory means at least four more years to advance socialism’s agenda beyond the point of no return.

It is illogical to assume the Democrats do not have the machinery in place for 2014 and 2016. They have only to rig a handful of elections in 2014 to regain the House and hold onto the Senate. After they control Congress and the White House along with controlling every federal bureaucracy, and federal law enforcement through a corrupt attorney general, they can concentrate on 2016.

Here’s a scary thought. Assume general elections are honest, but the Electoral College decides who the next president is as the Constitution intended. There is every reason to believe Hussein would have been put in office. See this video for a little bit about the Electoral College:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGoL1jYxu5E&feature=player_embedded]Electoral College and the National Archives - YouTube[/ame]​

The history of Democrats rigging elections began in the 1920s. JFK stole the election from Richard Nixon in 1960. Each stolen election made Democrats stronger. Today, the people with the authority and the power to do something about rigged elections are either Democrats or controlled by Democrats. They did nothing in 2008 or in 2012. There is zero chance they will act in the future when the Democrats have more power.

The elections in 2014 and 2016 should be all about stopping socialism/communism rather than conservatism versus liberalism. Here is my reasoning:

The history of mankind’s struggle against government oppression can be summed up in one sentence: Improve life for decent people.

Socialism/communism is the first ideology that reverses the process of going from oppression to life. Think about that for a minute. The slow, painful, advances made by countless men and women fighting to improve man’s lot over a period of ten thousand years has been stopped cold by the one sick ideology.

NOTE: America’s form of limited government providing the most liberty for the most people was the biggest advance in the forms of government imaginable. From the average man’s perspective it was a new form of government not a rehash of tyrannical governments that plagued mankind from the beginning of time. In effect, the US Constitution was a quantum leap for individual liberties. Socialists acquire political power by appearing to oppose poverty, injustice, bad health, global warming, and all of the rest of the lies they tell on the campaign trail, but liberty itself is the only thing they oppose.

Then and now

You don’t have to look at statues of ancient tyrants who controlled every form of government that ever was, you have only to look at the Socialist dictators in our federal government. They are exactly the same as their murderous political ancestors.

Put it in perspective this way. It took approximately ten thousand years for decent men to create a workable limited government. Socialism has been reversing the process worldwide for approximately three centuries; a bit more than a century in America, and look how far they’ve come. What will they accomplish in the next two centuries if they are not stopped?

Civilization & Utopia

Think of imperfect civilization as a building that took thousands of years to construct, while socialism/communism is the dynamite that will destroy it in a few centuries, and you have the reason Communists must promise Utopia. They can’t say that their civilization will be imperfect.

Socialists/Communists even admit that their goal is to tear down everything else and return to the past; only they don’t call it the past —— they call it progress. They even have the lies to back them up. Hussein’s most recent lie went back to the 1950s. When addressing Planned Parenthood butchers he double-talked a woman’s health into killing babies in the TENS OF MILLIONS when, in fact, a woman’s health is rarely a factor in abortions on demand:


"The fact is, after decades of progress, there's still those who want to turn back the clock to policies more suited to the 1950s than the 21st century," he said. "And they've been involved in an orchestrated and historic effort to roll back basic rights when it comes to women's health."

Apr 26, 3:03 PM EDT
Obama backs Planned Parenthood in political fight
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE
Associated Press

News from The Associated Press

Note that infanticide is progress in Hussein’s culture of death.

Whatever good there is in Western civilization came from those few individuals in every generation who fought for life itself against Hussein and his kind. The worst part of every civilization is that they always give the political power to the vilest of men —— and now women. (Check over the women in Hussein’s administration if you doubt me.)

Finally, no empire, no nation, no form of government before socialism/communism came along had the technology and the propaganda tools needed to implement an absolute culture of death designed to kill life at its inception. I’m sure there were many despots in history who dreamed about it, but it took a bunch of cruel people and socialism/communism to bring it about. American conservatives are the last hope of moving forward again in a historical sense. Should America fall to socialism/communism all of mankind’s pevious gains will be lost forever.
 
Have you actually read any of the Utopian philosophies? Plato's The Republic, Hobbes Leviathan, More's Utopia should all be read and studied. Those are the philosophies Ayn Rand used when she wrote Atlas Shrugged.

The end result of Utopia is a tyranny so oppressive that the people revolt. They cannot endure it. That's where obama is going.
 
Have you actually read any of the Utopian philosophies? Plato's The Republic, Hobbes Leviathan, More's Utopia should all be read and studied.

To Katzndogz: Studying every utopian fantasy ever dreamed up will not give anyone a better understanding of utopian promises than one minute spent with a dictionary provides.

utopian (adjective)

1. Often Utopian. Of, relating to, describing or having the characteristics of a Utopia: a Utopian island; Utopian novels.

2. a. Excellent or ideal but impracticable; visionary: a utopian scheme for equalizing wealth. b. Proposing impracticably ideal schemes.

noun
A zealous but impractical reformer of human society.

utopia ( noun)

1. a. Often Utopia . An ideally perfect place, especially in its social, political, and moral aspects. b. A work of fiction describing a utopia.

2. An impractical, idealistic scheme for social and political reform.

utopianism also Utopianism (noun)

The ideals or principles of a utopian; idealistic and impractical social theory.

Shangri-la (noun)

1. An imaginary, remote paradise on earth; utopia.

2. A distant and secluded hideaway, usually of great beauty and peacefulness.

Those are the philosophies Ayn Rand used when she wrote Atlas Shrugged.

To Katzndogz: I can’t speak for Ayn Rand, but in my view Galt’s Gulch was a plot device used to demolish the collective. In any event her arguments for individuality far outweigh any utopian society she might have been suggesting. I base my opinion on John Galt’s speech:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U1muMkbMypA]John Galt's Famous Speech From Atlas Shrugged - YouTube[/ame]​

and The Fountainhead:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4]The Fountainhead - Howard Roark Speech (Ayn Rand) - YouTube[/ame]​

The end result of Utopia is a tyranny so oppressive that the people revolt. They cannot endure it. That's where obama is going.

To Katzndogz: No argument there except to add that Hussein is nothing more than an extension of a long line of Socialists/Communists.
 

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