Citizen United being used to defend Disney over DeSantis attacks.

[kyzr]

Who decides decency and traditional values? Trump and his supporters attack our country using so-called decency and traditional values as a weapon. You are indecent and anti-traditional values which includes democracy.

"Traditional" does have a meaning, duh.

Family values - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Take your meds dumbass. This discussion has nothing to do with Trump.

 

[kyzr]

Why cannot an authoritarian politician seek revenge on a private corporation exercising its right to free speech in opposition to discrimination?

I don't know, why cannot he?

Read this and please be more specific with your question.

Florida oversight board votes to sue Disney as part of the company’s ongoing fight with DeSantis

The lawsuit is set to come less than a week after Disney sued the Florida governor.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[kyzr]

There is not. I hear 5 of those 7 on a pretty normal basis. People say shit on TV all the fucking time.
Because both of these have a victim that has been harmed.
Correct. And it should be the parents doing it, not the nanny government you want to live under
So far it is not happening.

1. Why are there ANY words you cannot say on TV? Doesn't "Free Speech" trump everything?

2. Who is harmed by indecent exposure or browsing kiddie porn? Those are gay agenda items are they not? Is exposing kids to gay books, drag shows, etc. harming them too?

3. Parents are voters voters want the government to protect their kids from exposure to deviant behaviors. Its a government of the people for the people. It can all be settled in court, correct?

 

[Skylar]

Not irrelevant at all. if you want a response, you should call it by it's name.

Your concession is accepted with the grace and patience it deserves.

 

[BULLDOG]

Despite the fact that current events are proving you wrong?

Wrong about what? I certainly oppose the law, even if it is usefull right now.

 

[dblack]

What rule of law? I call bullshit.

Seems like you know bullshit well.

But yeah, rule of law. When we have leaders persecuting political enemies - well that's some fuck up shit. Why would you support something like that? Just because they're scoring points in the culture war? Would you support Democrats doing that same thing? Or is just "different" when your side does it?

Wrong about what? I certainly oppose the law, even if it is usefull right now.

LOL - that's called hypocrisy. Lot of it going around these days.

 

[struth]

You want someone like DeSantis to be able to try and destroy a business because he disagrees with their point of view?

The people of Fl simply wanted Disney to be tested like every other company

meanwhile you voted for Xiden cause he promised to destroy the fossil fuel industry

 

[pknopp]

The people of Fl simply wanted Disney to be tested like every other company

meanwhile you voted for Xiden cause he promised to destroy the fossil fuel industry

Your mindless lashing out is always amusing.

 

[Marener]

Gay people are sexual deviants. That is morally wrong as preached by many religions. Look up "Traditional Family Values".
Democrats use the government against Republicans all the fucking time.
The IRS and Lois Lerner
The FBI and Twitter / Facebook censorship to cover up Biden's laptop crimes calling it "Russian Disinformation"
The Obama FBI/CIA illegally spied on Trump, and had Operations Razor & Crossfire Hurricane, not to mention Russian Collusion and the Mueller Investigation.

What "National Values"?????
their MSM propaganda networks and hi-tech oligarchs
to the FBI orchestrating cover ups and fake Russian disinformation claims
to their university leftist programming centers
to their CRT propaganda teachings in schools
to their "deep state" hold on the government
to their creeping attacks on family values & religious beliefs
to their lawless prosecutors
to their drug culture
to their "great replacement" operation
to their grip on school boards, calling parents “domestic terrorists”
to their tranny bullshit getting little kids butchered
to their warped views of the US military
to their vicious attacks on parental rights
to their voter fraud networks
to their hatred of religions, calling Catholics “domestic terrorists”
to their war on Christmas
to their hatred of the Founding Fathers
to their fake history and racism
to their drag shows in grade schools
to their late term abortions
To the FBI spying on Catholics
to their hatred of Patriotism, the American flag, and THE 4TH OF JULY
to the Marxists pushing for the US military to use EV tanks and vehicles

Sorry, your attempt to make this about Democrats is little more than right wing hype. They don’t have anything to do with democratic politicians directing the government to go after anyone and no indication that anyone in your list was targeted for any political reasons.

DeSantis and Florida has explicitly stated they are going after Disney because Disney used constitutionally protected speech to oppose their legislation.

Yes, that’s against American values. For a party so concerned about weaponization of government, you sure do seem to support its use for your own purposes.

 

[struth]

Your mindless lashing out is always amusing.

facts are facts

 

[bripat9643]

Of course not, but desantis is breaking other laws by using government authority to harm a political opponent.

That happens every day of th week.

 

[schmidlap]

I don't know, why cannot he?

Read this and please be more specific with your question.

Florida oversight board votes to sue Disney as part of the company’s ongoing fight with DeSantis

The lawsuit is set to come less than a week after Disney sued the Florida governor.

www.nbcnews.com

DeSantis having his hand-picked board countersue the corporation is the latest consequence of the authoritarian's seeking retribution for a private business exercising its free speech rights in being critical of his discriminatory legislation.

It is not benefiting DeSantis as he only digs himself in deeper.

Ron DeSantis’ allies take aim at Disney World monorail in latest escalation of feud

​

 

[kyzr]

Seems like you know bullshit well.
But yeah, rule of law. When we have leaders persecuting political enemies - well that's some fuck up shit. Why would you support something like that? Just because they're scoring points in the culture war? Would you support Democrats doing that same thing? Or is just "different" when your side does it?

You mean like democrats persecuting Trump and Republicans violating the "rule of Law" and persecuting political enemies?
The IRS and Lois Lerner persecuted conservatives
The FBI and Twitter / Facebook censorship to cover up Biden's laptop crimes calling it "Russian Disinformation" helped get Biden elected
The Obama FBI/CIA illegally spied on Trump, and had Operations Razor & Crossfire Hurricane, not to mention Russian Collusion and the Mueller Investigation.
The FBI falsified evidence to get FISA warrants against Trump associates.

So pardon me if I don't feel like your unnamed Republican fucked with your unnamed democrat deserves any pity.
I gave you a list of democrats persecuting Republicans.
Your turn to list Republicans persecuting democrats, show me your list.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

1. Why are there ANY words you cannot say on TV? Doesn't "Free Speech" trump everything?

Of course not, who said such a thing?

If it did there would be no such thing as slander/libel laws.

2. Who is harmed by indecent exposure or browsing kiddie porn? Those are gay agenda items are they not? Is exposing kids to gay books, drag shows, etc. harming them too?

The person that was being exposed to and the kids used to make the pron.

No, neither of those are gay agenda items, even if there was such a thing.

3. Parents are voters voters want the government to protect their kids from exposure to deviant behaviors. Its a government of the people for the people. It can all be settled in court, correct?

So, again you are saying is the voters want it, nothing is off limits for the Govt to do

 

[kyzr]

Sorry, your attempt to make this about Democrats is little more than right wing hype. They don’t have anything to do with democratic politicians directing the government to go after anyone and no indication that anyone in your list was targeted for any political reasons.

DeSantis and Florida has explicitly stated they are going after Disney because Disney used constitutionally protected speech to oppose their legislation.

Yes, that’s against American values. For a party so concerned about weaponization of government, you sure do seem to support its use for your own purposes.

1. Obama directed the FBI to spy on Trump. Google Operations Razor and Crossfire Hurricane. Dems use the government as a weapon.
The IRS and Lois Lerner persecuted conservatives
The FBI and Twitter / Facebook censorship to cover up Biden's laptop crimes calling it "Russian Disinformation" helped get Biden elected
The Obama FBI/CIA illegally spied on Trump, and had Operations Razor & Crossfire Hurricane, not to mention Russian Collusion and the Mueller Investigation.
The FBI falsified evidence to get FISA warrants against Trump associates.

2. Show me the links backing up your assertion that FL is "going after" Disney because Disney opposed their legislation.

3. Democrats weaponize the government all the time. See #1 above. What is "against American values"? Protecting children from deviates and the gay agenda?

 

[kyzr]

DeSantis having his hand-picked board counter-sue the corporation is the latest consequence of the authoritarian's seeking retribution for a private business exercising its free speech rights in being critical of his discriminatory legislation. It is not benefiting DeSantis as he only digs himself in deeper.
Ron DeSantis’ allies take aim at Disney World monorail in latest escalation of feud

If Ron Desantis is breaking ANY laws then Disney can take him to court. No big deal. If he's not breaking any laws, then STFU.
Desantis is a politician, I'm sure he knows what policies help or hurt his chances.
If the FL legislation is unconstitutional then take it to court.

FL is protecting their children from deviants and their agenda.

 

[kyzr]

Of course not, who said such a thing? If it did there would be no such thing as slander/libel laws.

The person that was being exposed to and the kids used to make the porn.
No, neither of those are gay agenda items, even if there was such a thing.

So, again you are saying is the voters want it, nothing is off limits for the Govt to do

1. Why can't you say shit, fuck, cocksucker. mother-fucker, etc. on TV without having them bleeped?????

2. If a person exposes themselves they are not harmed. The innocent kid seeing the pervert is harmed. So kids making kiddie porn are harmed. I agree with that. I also say that kids exposed to sexually explicit books in school are being harmed. Similarly, kids exposed to homosexual literature in opposition to their parents values are harmed. We disagree on what "gay agenda items" are. IMHO its everything related to the gay lifestyle.

3. States Rights say that the people can make Constitutional laws. If they are unconstitutional take them to court and get it thrown out.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

. Why can't you say shit, fuck, cocksucker. mother-fucker, etc. on TV without having them bleeped?????

You can say all of those things on tv maybe minus mother fucker.

you must not much watch much TV these days

2. If a person exposes themselves they are not harmed. The innocent kid seeing the pervert is harmed. So kids making kiddie porn are harmed. I agree with that.

Good there is one thing we can agree on.

I also say that kids exposed to sexually explicit books in school are being harmed.

Is Disney putting these books in schools?

Similarly, kids exposed to homosexual literature in opposition to their parents values are harmed.

Nope.

3. States Rights say that the people can make Constitutional laws. If they are unconstitutional take them to court and get it thrown out.

So again, you are saying no matter waht the voters vote for, you support the Govt doing it?

 

[kyzr]

You can say all of those things on tv maybe minus mother fucker. you must not much watch much TV these days

Good there is one thing we can agree on.

Is Disney putting these books in schools?

Nope.

So again, you are saying no matter what the voters vote for, you support the Govt doing it?

1. My TV bleeps out those words on the main channels, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc,. not on cable or movies, there they say anything.

2. ok

3. Its not always about Disney, its about the gay agenda, the teacher's unions or someone else is putting those gay books like "Gender Queer" in schools.

Books including 'Gender Queer' being pulled from schools, sparking controversy

Books including "Gender Queer" being pulled from schools, sparking controversy.

abcnews.go.com

4. Yep. If parents don't want their kids exposed to "Gender Queer" or other gay books, they are harmed.

5. If its constituitional to keep offensive material away from children and parents want to protect their kids from being "harmed" I do support it.

 

[dblack]

You mean like democrats persecuting Trump and Republicans violating the "rule of Law" and persecuting political enemies?

I'm mean exactly that. Is that the kind of government we should tolerate?