Chuck Schumer pushes plan to wipe out tea party

[Truthmatters]

dear idiot you party tried to crash the economy yet again by messing with default.

You hate government and try to kill it.

You cheat the American voter to steal power in elections.

the scotus agrees

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There is no reasoning with a poster like Truthmatters. All that is left is to ask what Government Program he sold his vote for and what amount he draws off the Taxpayers each month.

Inkslinger isn't the first liberal on these boards who doesn't seem to know our history - particularly the Boston Tea Party - and a response to it draws the usual incoherence from Truthmatters. Her ramblings are still hilarious and don't merit a counter-response.

=that is how you feel about SCOTUS decision?

 

[Truthmatters]

none of you fucking cons can accept FACTS you don't like.

its make you wrong on everything.

Bad info in means bad decisions out.

You refuse facts that don't fit your preconceived political bullshit.

 

[Ernie S.]

Name one Tea Party Republican who could win the presidency in 2016.

Richard Nixon could win the Presidency in 2016 after the way obama has fucked us over.

and your cheating assed party would back a criminal.

You still could not cheat enough to win an election

Your cheating assed party elected a coke head for POTUS and another crack head got reelected mayor of DC after serving time. You got a lot of balls to talk about criminals running for office.

 

[Ernie S.]

Name one Tea Party Republican who could win the presidency in 2016.

Richard Nixon could win the Presidency in 2016 after the way obama has fucked us over.

lol, you all have everything but a simple answer. ONE NAME is all I ask.

I have no idea at this point who will win the GOP nomination. I'm pretty damned confident that the candidate will be a Conservative who will be endorsed by the TEA Party and he/she will be elected.

 

[mudwhistle]

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[Ernie S.]

People in the Heartland of this country are astounded to find that their disgust with a runaway debt of 17 trillion dollars can possibly be characterized as "obsessive, anti-government mania" as this dick from New York has just done.

Like all Libero-Socialists, Schumer likes Control. Debt buys Free Stuiff...and Free Stuff buys Votes...and Votes buy Control...which these assholes like Schumer, Pelosi, Reed, and Obama like very much.

Obama has a full third of the people living on the Federal Government Plantation...their self-respect gone; their self reliance gone; all initiative gone...and his approval rating is just 40 per cent. That mean that less than 7 per cent of the people who actually take care of themselves support him.

So, they use their Libero-Socialist controlled Media out of New York to characterize the people living in the Heartland who do take care of themselves as zealots rising little above the Ku Kluz Klan.

Meanwhile, New York is using Hheartland values to advertise to try to lure some people who still believe in the profit incentive to come and shore up their state which is teetering on the brink of Bankruptcy--for the same reason Detroit is now already Bankrupt. Free-Spending Libero-Socialists.

Chuck Schumer and his crowd hate Jeffersonian Values and Christian Ideals---the things that made this country the greatest society the world has ever known.

Why do they want to destroy it?

They like the Control they can get form an over-reaching, stifling, money guzzling Big Government.

The Heartland is going to put a stop to it this November.

And Robmoney won by 5% huh?

being delusional isn't a plus nutter

Romney was #1, not a TEA Party candidate and #2, he is hardly a Conservative.
The GOP ran moderates in the last 2 elections and lost. They won't make the same mistake a 3rd time.

 

[The T]

People in the Heartland of this country are astounded to find that their disgust with a runaway debt of 17 trillion dollars can possibly be characterized as "obsessive, anti-government mania" as this dick from New York has just done.

Like all Libero-Socialists, Schumer likes Control. Debt buys Free Stuiff...and Free Stuff buys Votes...and Votes buy Control...which these assholes like Schumer, Pelosi, Reed, and Obama like very much.

Obama has a full third of the people living on the Federal Government Plantation...their self-respect gone; their self reliance gone; all initiative gone...and his approval rating is just 40 per cent. That mean that less than 7 per cent of the people who actually take care of themselves support him.

So, they use their Libero-Socialist controlled Media out of New York to characterize the people living in the Heartland who do take care of themselves as zealots rising little above the Ku Kluz Klan.

Meanwhile, New York is using Hheartland values to advertise to try to lure some people who still believe in the profit incentive to come and shore up their state which is teetering on the brink of Bankruptcy--for the same reason Detroit is now already Bankrupt. Free-Spending Libero-Socialists.

Chuck Schumer and his crowd hate Jeffersonian Values and Christian Ideals---the things that made this country the greatest society the world has ever known.

Why do they want to destroy it?

They like the Control they can get form an over-reaching, stifling, money guzzling Big Government.

The Heartland is going to put a stop to it this November.

And Robmoney won by 5% huh?

being delusional isn't a plus nutter

Romney was #1, not a TEA Party candidate and #2, he is hardly a Conservative.
The GOP ran moderates in the last 2 elections and lost. They won't make the same mistake a 3rd time.

You hope...I think people are disgusted with BOTH parties...except of course the perpetually stupid in it for free shit.

 

[Freewill]

And Robmoney won by 5% huh?

being delusional isn't a plus nutter

Romney was #1, not a TEA Party candidate and #2, he is hardly a Conservative.
The GOP ran moderates in the last 2 elections and lost. They won't make the same mistake a 3rd time.

You hope...I think people are disgusted with BOTH parties...except of course the perpetually stupid in it for free shit.

The 47 percent.

 

[The T]

Romney was #1, not a TEA Party candidate and #2, he is hardly a Conservative.
The GOP ran moderates in the last 2 elections and lost. They won't make the same mistake a 3rd time.

You hope...I think people are disgusted with BOTH parties...except of course the perpetually stupid in it for free shit.

The 47 percent.

The intellectually lazy, low info Gubmint school graduates that think they are owed stuff because they were born here and won't lift a finger to earn anything. The moocher class.

 

[Redfish]

How many tea partiers in office in the US are pro-choice?

abortion is only a big issue with you libs who oppose the death penalty for murderers but are fine with killing unborn children.

Is abortion really your primary political issue?

The same could be said about you CINOs who want the government out of your lives, but have no problem with it crawling up your wife's vagina. It cuts both ways.

that just shows how little you understand about conservatives. We want everyone to make their own decisions about right and wrong, not have the govt elites make those decisions and dictate them to us.

we believe that a majority of any society should determine its ethics and morals, not a minority on either end of the spectrum

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

In a move that would make Stalin proud, (Charles Schumer) descendant of the Jews that emigrated from Russia in the early 20th century and the commie Emma Goldmans and Rosenbergs of the world, Schumer (to the poud cheers of the morons on left who do not realize they support Communist Party USA) Schumer looking to stifle the voice of the opposition.

Sen. Charles Schumer pushes plan to undercut tea party - Washington Times

Democrats should push for more open primaries as a way of weakening the tea party movement, Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, said Thursday, laying out a plan to try to isolate the grass-roots conservative movement that has emerged as a key hurdle to President Obama’s agenda over the past three years.

Mr. Schumer said moving to a nonpartisan “blanket” primary — in which all candidates compete and the top finishers advance regardless of party affiliation — would force right-wing candidates to appeal to centrist voters, which he said would push out the most extreme candidates.


“Do what a handful of states have done and have a primary where all voters, members of every party, can vote and the top two vote-getters, regardless of party, then enter a runoff,” Mr. Schumer said in a speech at the Center for American Progress. “It would force the most extreme candidates in Republican districts to move closer to the middle to pick up more moderate Republicans and independents.”

Such a system is in place in California, Louisiana and Washington state.

Mr. Schumer said the tea party movement is being controlled by a few wealthy donors whose limited-government philosophy does not reflect the ideas of millions of voters who identify as tea party supporters but who benefit from government programs such as Social Security or public education.

“The best way to deal with the tea party’s obsessive, anti-government mania is to confront it directly by showing the people the need for government to help them out of their morass,” he said. “Let’s remind people the reason they’re frustrated in Washington is not that government is doing too much, but because it’s gridlocked and not doing enough.”

Mr. Schumer said Democrats should go on the offensive by portraying the government as a

“force for good,” focusing on issues such as raising the minimum wage, making college more affordable and building bridges, roads and broadband infrastructure.

Sal Russo, chief strategist for the Tea Party Express, predicted that the strategy will not work with tea party supporters.


“The tea party is not going to be assuaged by suggesting that even a bigger and more expensive federal government is the answer,” he said.

The tea party movement was born in 2009 out of public anger over the government bailout of private banks and the early moves by newly inaugurated President Obama to boost government spending. Mr. Schumer said Fox News and other conservative-leaning news outlets helped spread the “propaganda” to the masses.

Powered by tea party enthusiasm, insurgent candidates unseated longtime Republicans in primaries in 2010 and went on to help Republicans win control of the House and gain seats in the Senate. Several tea party Senate candidates, however, lost races that analysts had said could have been won by more mainstream candidates.

Mr. Schumer’s hourlong speech shows that Democrats are starting to see tea party lawmakers as serious competition, said Dan Holler, communications director for the conservative activist group Heritage Action for America.

“I think what Sen. Schumer is trying to accomplish is to divide the tea party. I think that in and of itself is telling, that you have someone most people in Washington consider to be one of the smartest strategists in the country dedicating an hour to try to divide the tea party,” he said. “It speaks to the success the movement has had not only in terms of moving the Republican Party to a vision of smaller government but changing how Washington operates.”

Mr. Schumer said he spotted signs of xenophobia or cultural fear in tea party supporters and that many of them worry about increased immigration or an American political landscape that is less white and less male-dominated. He compared the tea party’s limited-government message to Prohibition in the 1920s, calling it a reaction to the country’s shift to a more urban economy.


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Proud Trotskyite

Well I for one think that it's time we hop in the WAY-BACK-Machine and see if taking the advice or even tolerating socialists has EVER produced a single positive result for Americans, thus the GOP.

Hmmm.

No, no, nope, nuh-uh, nnnh huh, no, NO! Lord No ... and HELL NAH!

Which brings us up to the last Presidential Election, where the Left DEMANDED that Romney was the ONLY hope of beating Obama, the incumbent President with the WORST record since HOOVER, who literally had NO CHANCE of winning and what happened?

A SUPER-NICE guy, Romney, lost by 3pts. Thus due largely to MASSIVE election fraud, not the least of which was Official Authorized (Abuse of Power) Voter Suppression, using the IRS by the President of the United States and Romney's "Go along to get along, I'm above it all" attitude.

Well, the facts don't lie. Socialism sucks and tolerating socialism and following their advice for a Pro-American candidate LOSES!

So I say let Schumer run his jib, he, like our in-house lemmings feel that they possess a MASSIVE majority, when in fact, they represent a tiny, fractional, but MOUTHY minority, so as mouthy as they are, THEY CAN'T CONTROL THEMSELVES FROM CRANKING IT UP and as it always does, it's going to bite them in the ass.

NY having just elected a card carrying communist as mayor of the City and Cuomo flapping his word hole denouncing Americans as UNWELCOME IN NY State, leaves NY, on the whole, something like 36-48 months from total collapse. Meaning that inside 36 months you're going to see an unprecedented flight of the highest producing NY Citizens, and as tax increases meet spiraling revenues... it is going to a bust which will be best described as HYSTERICAL.

But by that time the Senate will have a GOP majority, comprised largely of SMASH-MOUTH, MEAT-EATING, Tea-Party Republicans (Americans), same in the House and a Tea-Party (American) President, all of whom will be initiating MASSIVE AUSTERITY CUTS for ALL of the freeloaders and when NY comes BEGGING for a handout, what a GREAT DAY TO BE ALIVE THAT WILL BE!

 

[MACAULAY]

This thread is typical. Schumer, who is a dick and a turd, says something outrageous...something calculated to shut off political free speech on matters he disagrees with...something Stalin would have done.

It is indefensible, so the Thread Loon, in in this case--Truthteller, comes on and calls everybody names like "nutter", and tries to completely change the subject...and assumes she has taught the Conservatives a good lesson.

I ask anybody, Right or Left, to review the efforts of Truthteller in this thread, and say if she has presented a coherent argument.

 

[Sallow]

Good the tea party is nothing but repuke brown shirts ordered up by Dick Army & freedom works. Good riddance !

So should the IRS also target liberal tax exempt organizations?

The IRS should follow the law.

And if "liberal" 501c organizations aren't engaged exclusively in social welfare activities?

They should lose their tax exempt status.

Simple enough.

 

[Sallow]

abortion is only a big issue with you libs who oppose the death penalty for murderers but are fine with killing unborn children.

Is abortion really your primary political issue?

The same could be said about you CINOs who want the government out of your lives, but have no problem with it crawling up your wife's vagina. It cuts both ways.

that just shows how little you understand about conservatives. We want everyone to make their own decisions about right and wrong, not have the govt elites make those decisions and dictate them to us.

we believe that a majority of any society should determine its ethics and morals, not a minority on either end of the spectrum

That's patently false.

What you want is a government made up of the military, corporations and religious clerics.

You do not want a vote.

You do not want free speech.

You do want a society made up of one religion, one race and one ethnicity.

This is not the country for you folks.

 

[Harry Dresden]

In a move that would make Stalin proud, (Charles Schumer) descendant of the Jews that emigrated from Russia in the early 20th century and the commie Emma Goldmans and Rosenbergs of the world, Schumer (to the poud cheers of the morons on left who do not realize they support Communist Party USA) Schumer looking to stifle the voice of the opposition.

Sen. Charles Schumer pushes plan to undercut tea party - Washington Times

Democrats should push for more open primaries as a way of weakening the tea party movement, Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, said Thursday, laying out a plan to try to isolate the grass-roots conservative movement that has emerged as a key hurdle to President Obama’s agenda over the past three years.

Mr. Schumer said moving to a nonpartisan “blanket” primary — in which all candidates compete and the top finishers advance regardless of party affiliation — would force right-wing candidates to appeal to centrist voters, which he said would push out the most extreme candidates.


“Do what a handful of states have done and have a primary where all voters, members of every party, can vote and the top two vote-getters, regardless of party, then enter a runoff,” Mr. Schumer said in a speech at the Center for American Progress. “It would force the most extreme candidates in Republican districts to move closer to the middle to pick up more moderate Republicans and independents.”

Such a system is in place in California, Louisiana and Washington state.

Mr. Schumer said the tea party movement is being controlled by a few wealthy donors whose limited-government philosophy does not reflect the ideas of millions of voters who identify as tea party supporters but who benefit from government programs such as Social Security or public education.

“The best way to deal with the tea party’s obsessive, anti-government mania is to confront it directly by showing the people the need for government to help them out of their morass,” he said. “Let’s remind people the reason they’re frustrated in Washington is not that government is doing too much, but because it’s gridlocked and not doing enough.”

Mr. Schumer said Democrats should go on the offensive by portraying the government as a

“force for good,” focusing on issues such as raising the minimum wage, making college more affordable and building bridges, roads and broadband infrastructure.

Sal Russo, chief strategist for the Tea Party Express, predicted that the strategy will not work with tea party supporters.


“The tea party is not going to be assuaged by suggesting that even a bigger and more expensive federal government is the answer,” he said.

The tea party movement was born in 2009 out of public anger over the government bailout of private banks and the early moves by newly inaugurated President Obama to boost government spending. Mr. Schumer said Fox News and other conservative-leaning news outlets helped spread the “propaganda” to the masses.

Powered by tea party enthusiasm, insurgent candidates unseated longtime Republicans in primaries in 2010 and went on to help Republicans win control of the House and gain seats in the Senate. Several tea party Senate candidates, however, lost races that analysts had said could have been won by more mainstream candidates.

Mr. Schumer’s hourlong speech shows that Democrats are starting to see tea party lawmakers as serious competition, said Dan Holler, communications director for the conservative activist group Heritage Action for America.

“I think what Sen. Schumer is trying to accomplish is to divide the tea party. I think that in and of itself is telling, that you have someone most people in Washington consider to be one of the smartest strategists in the country dedicating an hour to try to divide the tea party,” he said. “It speaks to the success the movement has had not only in terms of moving the Republican Party to a vision of smaller government but changing how Washington operates.”

Mr. Schumer said he spotted signs of xenophobia or cultural fear in tea party supporters and that many of them worry about increased immigration or an American political landscape that is less white and less male-dominated. He compared the tea party’s limited-government message to Prohibition in the 1920s, calling it a reaction to the country’s shift to a more urban economy.


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Proud Trotskyite

“Do what a handful of states have done and have a primary where all voters, members of every party, can vote and the top two vote-getters, regardless of party, then enter a runoff,”

Such a system is in place in California,

no it isnt....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Have you seen his wife iris???? No wonder the guy is a loser.

some people love someone for who they are,not what they look like.....pretty shallow Deltex....

 

[Harry Dresden]

we do this in cali now.

It works out great.

The two the PEOPLE want at the top are who get to run.


If your stupid party cant cheat enough to win you wont win anymore.

the people don't want your party

its not the 2 top vote getters regardless of party as Chucky said.....its the 2 top vote getters from each party....learn about the State you live in....

 

[theDoctorisIn]

we do this in cali now.

It works out great.

The two the PEOPLE want at the top are who get to run.


If your stupid party cant cheat enough to win you wont win anymore.

the people don't want your party

its not the 2 top vote getters regardless of party as Chucky said.....its the 2 top vote getters from each party....learn about the State you live in....

Here in SF, all local elections are non-partisan. No parties at all - just a whole bunch of candidates, and instant-runoff voting.

 

[Immanuel]

Have you seen his wife iris???? No wonder the guy is a loser.

He's hardly a loser, loser.

Anyone, especially a politician, who pisses on the Constitution and our civil liberties is a loser. Thus Shumer is definitely a loser.

 

[Harry Dresden]

we do this in cali now.

It works out great.

The two the PEOPLE want at the top are who get to run.


If your stupid party cant cheat enough to win you wont win anymore.

the people don't want your party

its not the 2 top vote getters regardless of party as Chucky said.....its the 2 top vote getters from each party....learn about the State you live in....

Here in SF, all local elections are non-partisan. No parties at all - just a whole bunch of candidates, and instant-runoff voting.

thats the way it should be....no parties, just people running....the one that appeals to the most gets it.....and campaigning should not last as long as it does and the money spent on them should be limited....