Christians are not to take in blood.

[Modbert]

BTW, where in the bible does it say that the OT supersedes the NT?

I mean, I certainly think so. Have you ever read the OT? Its bizarre. Talking snakes, people turning into salt, God killing sons for little reason, God choosing favoured nations for no apparent reason, floods killing everybody yet one man getting two of everything on the planet and putting them on a boat smaller than the yachts in Monaco, ridiculous explanations on the origins of the universe, God admitting He is a sinner, etc.

But where does it say the NT over-rules the OT? Isn't it presumptuous to think so?

From what I understand, some people assume that Jesus fulfills the old covenant and therefore the N.T suddenly supersedes the O.T. Personally? I think it's just a flimsy excuse by Christians who don't want to answer for some of the worse things in the Bible. Like the things I listed earlier. That way when people bring up the O.T, they can say "Oh, well none of that matters now because of the N.T!"

Except as I showed earlier, both Matthew and Timothy have verses where Jesus himself said he had not come to abolish any of the old laws.

The fact we still follow the 10 Commandments and believe in the Creation story is enough evidence that in fact, the O.T is not quite superseded no matter how they put it or how much they want it to.

I've had so called Christians on here tell me that Christians don't believe in the O.T.

 

[maineman]

has RGS answered the question of how, in his OP, he claims that Jesus said those things about blood, and he lists two passages from the Acts of the Apostles, which details events AFTER the assumption?

 

[eagleseven]

has RGS answered the question of how, in his OP, he claims that Jesus said those things about blood, and he lists two passages from the Acts of the Apostles, which details events AFTER the assumption?

Jesus says everything in the Bible...except those passages in the OT that nobody likes.

Or, at least, that's what we're supposed to think.

 

[Modbert]

Jesus says everything in the Bible...except those passages in the OT that nobody likes.

Or, at least, that's what we're supposed to think.

Unless you believe that God = Jesus, then you do believe Jesus did say those things in the OT.

 

[eagleseven]

Jesus says everything in the Bible...except those passages in the OT that nobody likes.

Or, at least, that's what we're supposed to think.

Unless you believe that God = Jesus, then you do believe Jesus did say those things in the OT.

God hates logic.

 

[syrenn]

has RGS answered the question of how, in his OP, he claims that Jesus said those things about blood, and he lists two passages from the Acts of the Apostles, which details events AFTER the assumption?

Jesus says everything in the Bible...except those passages in the OT that nobody likes.

Or, at least, that's what we're supposed to think.

jesus doesn't actually say anything in the bible. What is in the bible is what other people report,think assume, or would like to believe he said.

 

[Modbert]

jesus doesn't actually say anything in the bible. What is in the bible is what other people report,think assume, or would like to believe he said.

 

[Yurt]

has RGS answered the question of how, in his OP, he claims that Jesus said those things about blood, and he lists two passages from the Acts of the Apostles, which details events AFTER the assumption?

Jesus says everything in the Bible...except those passages in the OT that nobody likes.

Or, at least, that's what we're supposed to think.

wrong

 

[eagleseven]

jesus doesn't actually say anything in the bible. What is in the bible is what other people report,think assume, or would like to believe he said.

Thou shall never mention that the Gospels were written nearly a century after Jesus died.

Jesus says everything in the Bible...except those passages in the OT that nobody likes.

wrong

If Jesus is God, and God spoke in the Old Testament, then it was Jesus speaking in the Old Testament.

You don't believe Jesus is God?

 

[syrenn]

jesus doesn't actually say anything in the bible. What is in the bible is what other people report,think assume, or would like to believe he said.

Thou shall never mention that the Gospels were written nearly a century after Jesus died.

What happened to thou shalt not lie?

 

[eagleseven]

jesus doesn't actually say anything in the bible. What is in the bible is what other people report,think assume, or would like to believe he said.

Thou shall never mention that the Gospels were written nearly a century after Jesus died.

What happened to thou shalt not lie?

Where does the Bible say "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"?

 

[syrenn]

Thou shall never mention that the Gospels were written nearly a century after Jesus died.

What happened to thou shalt not lie?

Where does the Bible say "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"?

It sorta like 'an eye for and eye" The bible lies so its alright to lie in return.

If the bible gave the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth...the world would be more willing to give it in return.

 

[Ravi]

More ASTOUNDING STUPIDITY from Ravi. All one need do is cook meat properly to obey the commandment. And GETTING blood on you is not against a commandment.

Cooked blood is still blood. And skin is permeable.

Already provided the passage where God told Noah he and man could eat the flesh but to pour out the blood. But then you probably don't even own a bible.

Genesis 9: 3, 4, 16

And later in Moses time.

Leviticus 17: 14 and 7: 26, 27

Good work, you progress. His point was not to eat things while they were still living. Nothing about blood transfusions.

The entire discussion was about eating and adhering to dietary law. But you are free to misinterpret the word of God as you see fit...unless that is bearing false witness, I forget.

 

[Ravi]

I'd be very wary of this bible "leader" that yer following RGS.

If God was against blood transfusions he would have said something about them.

 

[Ravi]

I should of realized this sooner.

Jehovah's Witnesses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood transfusions, which they consider a violation of God's law based on their interpretation of Acts 15:28, 29 and other scriptures.[256][257][258] Since 1961 the acceptance of a blood transfusion has been grounds for expulsion from the religion.[259][260] Watch Tower Society literature directs Witnesses to refuse blood transfusions, even in "a life-or-death situation".[261][262][263][264] Jehovah's Witnesses accept non-blood alternatives,[265] and other medical procedures, in lieu of blood transfusions.

Acts 15: 28, 29

Acts 21: 25

This command is not to take blood into oneself for any reason, by any means. That would include transfusions.

Fortunately there are alternate means to blood for surgery and life threatening events.

Jehovah Witness = evolution in action.

I used to work with a woman that was one...she wouldn't defile her body with caffeine but she ate a package of oreos a day and chugged hawaiian punch from eight to five.

 

[Ravi]

BTW, where in the bible does it say that the OT supersedes the NT?

I mean, I certainly think so. Have you ever read the OT? Its bizarre. Talking snakes, people turning into salt, God killing sons for little reason, God choosing people for no apparent reason, floods killing everybody yet one man getting two of everything on the planet and putting them on a boat smaller than the yachts in Monaco, ridiculous explanations on the origins of the universe, etc.

But where does it say the NT over-rules the OT? Isn't it presumptuous to think so?

It's like in 0 AD, God went from being schitzo and childish ("I shall punish you for not paying attention to me and arbitrarily blow shit up") to a stern old man.

More proof that having children makes you unstable...he should have thought twice before he knocked Mary up.

 

[Douger]

Learned a new one today. Jesus ordered that Christians were not to partake of the blood of any living creature, including man. Blood is part of the Soul, which all living things have. ( something else I learned today)

In Noah's time the commandant was given and repeated in Mose's time. The New Testament supersedes the laws of Moses. However Jesus repeated the commandment.

Acts 15: 28, 29

Acts 21: 25

This command is not to take blood into oneself for any reason, by any means. That would include transfusions.

Fortunately there are alternate means to blood for surgery and life threatening events.

You unknowingly hit the nail right on the head when you typed "commandant".
i need to make up a batch of blood sausage. Yum !

 

[ABikerSailor]

Actually, the Noahide Commandments read as follows.....

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The Rainbow is the modern symbol of the Noahide Movement, recalling the rainbow that appeared after the Great Flood of the Bible.

The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח‎ Sheva mitzvot B'nei Noach), often referred to as the Noahide Laws or Noachide Code, are a set of seven moral imperatives that, according to the Talmud, were given by God to Noah as a binding set of laws for all mankind.[1] According to Judaism any non-Jew who lives according to these laws is regarded as a Righteous Gentile and is assured of a place in the world to come (Olam Haba), the Jewish concept of heaven.[2] Adherents are often called "B'nei Noach" (Children of Noah) or "Noahides" and may often network in Jewish synagogues.

The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are[3]

1. Prohibition of Idolatry: You shall not have any idols before God.
2. Prohibition of Murder: You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)
3. Prohibition of Theft: You shall not steal.
4. Prohibition of Sexual immorality: You shall not commit any of a series of sexual prohibitions, which include adultery, incest, anal intercourse between men, and bestiality.
5. Prohibition of Blasphemy: You shall not blaspheme God's name.
6. Dietary Law: Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4, as interpreted in the Talmud (Sanhedrin 59a)
7. Requirement to have just Laws: Set up a governing body of law (eg Courts)

The Noahide Laws comprise the six laws which were given to Adam in the Garden of Eden according to the Talmud's interpretation of Gen 2:16[4] and a seventh one, which was added after the Flood of Noah. Later at the Revelation at Sinai the Seven Laws of Noah were regiven to humanity and embedded in the 613 Laws given to the Children of Israel along with the Ten Commandments, which are part of, and not separate from, the 613 mitzvot. These laws are mentioned in the Torah. According to Judaism, the 613 mitzvot or "commandments" given in the written Torah, as well as their reasonings in the oral Torah, were only issued to the Jews and are therefore binding only upon them, having inherited the obligation from their ancestors. At the same time, at Mount Sinai, the Children of Israel (i.e. the Children of Jacob, i.e. the Israelites) were given the obligation to teach other nations the embedded Noahide Laws. However, it is actually forbidden by the Talmud for non-Jews (on whom the Noahide Laws are still binding) to elevate their observance to the Torah's mitzvot as the Jews do.[5][6]

While some Jewish organizations, such as Chabad have worked to promote the acceptance of Noahide laws, there are no figures for how many actually do.

Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The commandment is thou shalt not EAT the blood or flesh of any living animal.

Transfusions are not eating blood.

Incidentally Retarded Grungy Shithead, you ought to be careful when you quote stuff like that, because your copy of the OT is kinda screwed up from all the translations through the ages.

Thou shalt not kill is a mistranslation of the law thou shalt not MURDER.

Additionally, according to the Jewish translation of Genesis the very first verse (remember, it was originally written in Hebrew) is not "in the beginning", it's actually "in A beginning".

Take your false bullshit elsewhere dude, you ain't fooling anyone.

 

[eots]

this thread needs a soundtrack...


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxM_3iEE5BI&feature=related[/ame]

[It's getting late you're gonna die
They're trying to scare us with their lies
The 700 club is full of shit
The evangelists can suck my dick
I don't need religious bumfucks anymore
Their paranoia is here to stay
You all believe them anyway

I hate buddhism
I hate satanism
I hate reaganism
I hate religion
DAYGLO ABORTIONS LYRICS - Religious Bumfucks

 

[THE LIGHT]

I should of realized this sooner.

Jehovah's Witnesses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood transfusions, which they consider a violation of God's law based on their interpretation of Acts 15:28, 29 and other scriptures.[256][257][258] Since 1961 the acceptance of a blood transfusion has been grounds for expulsion from the religion.[259][260] Watch Tower Society literature directs Witnesses to refuse blood transfusions, even in "a life-or-death situation".[261][262][263][264] Jehovah's Witnesses accept non-blood alternatives,[265] and other medical procedures, in lieu of blood transfusions.

Acts 15: 28, 29

Acts 21: 25

This command is not to take blood into oneself for any reason, by any means. That would include transfusions.

Fortunately there are alternate means to blood for surgery and life threatening events.

Jehovah Witness = evolution in action.

I used to work with a woman that was one...she wouldn't defile her body with caffeine but she ate a package of oreos a day and chugged hawaiian punch from eight to five.

That's more of a Mormon thing... I didn't know the JWs were the same on caffine.

And I still haven't found that one in the Bible. It must have been one of the missing ten commandments from when Moshe busted them the first time down the mountain.