Christian Man Asks Thirteen Gay Bakeries To Bake Him Traditional Marriage Cake; Turned Down By All

[jon_berzerk]

Yes Joe, sometimes I have to defend things with which I disagree.

The old "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it" thing.

That's a cost of being a principled, independent, consistent individual.

I've tried to explain this to you many times, but I've finally decided you just don't understand it.

Your right, guy, I just don't understand it.

I just don't understand why you feel the law should protect hateful, ignorant people. These people need to be corrected, not indulged. Just like the racists did 30 years ago.

You want to "correct" them, punish them, intimidate them; I want to change hearts & minds.

We have the same ultimate goal, but we'll never agree on the method.

.

You say that out of arrogance....coupled with the fact that you are not among one of the classes of people who are subject to discrimination.

Therefore, you have all the time in the world to change hearts and minds. What's the hurry, right? And..as a bonus.....you get to be a beacon of hope for bigots, racists and homophobes. Isn't that just the coolest thing?!

coupled with the fact that you are not among one of the classes of people

wow talk about being discriminatory

 

[JoeB131]

I know you don't.

At least you're not spinning for the almighty "public accommodations laws" any more.

Why keep making an argument I've already won. Even the GOP isn't too keen on carving out a religious exemption for homophobia at this point.

 

[Mac1958]

I know you don't.

At least you're not spinning for the almighty "public accommodations laws" any more.

Why keep making an argument I've already won. Even the GOP isn't too keen on carving out a religious exemption for homophobia at this point.

You've won that argument.

Oh, okay.



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[LoneLaugher]

Baker to gay couple: "We will not make a wedding cake for you or any gay couple...but straight couples are good to go"

Baker to bigot: "We will not make a cake with a bigoted or homophobic message on it for you or anyone else"

Nutters see those two things as being the same.

Brilliant!!

 

[JoeB131]

I didn't have to talk to you but once to know you're a n****r. Even when shown you are one, you get worse.

Sorry, guy, I'm about as lily-white as you get.

What I am is someone who realizes the rich are very good at playing dumb shits like you and getting you to vote against your own economic interests.

If I put it to a simple vote- A) society where gays are accepted, but you get a really good salary, or B) one where they are discriminated against, and you are working for shit wages, if you had a lick of common sense you'd vote for A).

 

[JoeB131]

I know you don't.

At least you're not spinning for the almighty "public accommodations laws" any more.

Why keep making an argument I've already won. Even the GOP isn't too keen on carving out a religious exemption for homophobia at this point.

You've won that argument.

Oh, okay.

.

Uh, yeah, you are flaying around screaming "Freedom" like a drunk Mel Gibson, but the reality is, you've lost the argument on gay marriage and you've lost the argument on public accomedation.

 

[Sarah G]

Looks like Steve McFuckface didn't actually read the link he posted.

The dude didn't ask for "pro-traditional-marriage" cakes. He specifically asked them to write:

"gay marriage is wrong"

on the cakes.

That is a huge difference.

Now, just for a second, try to be reasonable and actually think about that.

Has anyone here ever, ever, ever gone to a wedding (I assume, a straight wedding) and seen on the wedding cake:

"gay marriage is wrong"

????

Hint: if you are straight, as most all of us are, and you are marrying, the last thing you are thinking about on your wedding day is "gay marriage is wrong". If you are, then something is seriously, and I mean, seriously wrong with you.


Not only that, the first shop the guy called was not even a gay bakery, it was a gay cookie shop, so the product he was asking for, they don't even sell. I mean, how stupid can you get? She even told the doofus TWICE that they don't make cakes. This is just rich. Maybe next time he could call a gay car battery shop and ask them to bake an "I hate gays" cake and see what response he gets.

I know this is a hot-button issue, but really, can't religious conservatives do better than this?

How do you think a black owned bakery would respond were that same guy to call and ask for a cake that says:

"KKK forever"?

I bet that that black bakery (if one even exists, I am not sure of that at all) would probably say no. That being said:

Just for the record, I don't think that "christian" bakeries should have to bake cakes for gay weddings. I think that gay people are also definitely going about this the wrong way. The free market should control here, and if those "christians" are so stupid as to let a good business opportunity go by them and they lose money or go out of business, well then, that's their problem. Yeshuah said to his followers that they are "in this world but not of this world", but nowhere did he say that Christians cannot do business with people who are not as they are. Gee, Christians, this is one helluva way to "witness" to people who are not as you would wish for them to be.

Not only that, I bet top dollar that gay people do not go into a "christian" bakery and ask for

"straight marriage is wrong"

to be put on their wedding cake.


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Maybe you good folks might want to add some to this discussion. This could get fun.

Let the right-wing Umbragefest begin!!!

Why is Steve McGarret such a liar? He must know that he's on the wrong side of issues and he has to lie about everything.
What a liar...

 

[LoneLaugher]

Yes Joe, sometimes I have to defend things with which I disagree.

The old "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it" thing.

That's a cost of being a principled, independent, consistent individual.

I've tried to explain this to you many times, but I've finally decided you just don't understand it.

Your right, guy, I just don't understand it.

I just don't understand why you feel the law should protect hateful, ignorant people. These people need to be corrected, not indulged. Just like the racists did 30 years ago.

You want to "correct" them, punish them, intimidate them; I want to change hearts & minds.

We have the same ultimate goal, but we'll never agree on the method.

.

You say that out of arrogance....coupled with the fact that you are not among one of the classes of people who are subject to discrimination.

Therefore, you have all the time in the world to change hearts and minds. What's the hurry, right? And..as a bonus.....you get to be a beacon of hope for bigots, racists and homophobes. Isn't that just the coolest thing?!

coupled with the fact that you are not among one of the classes of people

wow talk about being discriminatory

You might be able to get work writing chyron headlines for FOX .

 

[Mac1958]

I know you don't.

At least you're not spinning for the almighty "public accommodations laws" any more.

Why keep making an argument I've already won. Even the GOP isn't too keen on carving out a religious exemption for homophobia at this point.

You've won that argument.

Oh, okay.

.

Uh, yeah, you are flaying around screaming "Freedom" like a drunk Mel Gibson, but the reality is, you've lost the argument on gay marriage and you've lost the argument on public accomedation.

And to the lies we go. We were having a civil conversation there for a moment.

"Screaming 'freedom'". Oy.

Joe, there are plenty of rightwingers here with whom you can have this type of conversation. I don't know why you keep trying this with me.

You still don't see that you and I have the same goal. Please play with them, thanks.

.

 

[Conservative65]

I didn't have to talk to you but once to know you're a n****r. Even when shown you are one, you get worse.

Sorry, guy, I'm about as lily-white as you get.

What I am is someone who realizes the rich are very good at playing dumb shits like you and getting you to vote against your own economic interests.

If I put it to a simple vote- A) society where gays are accepted, but you get a really good salary, or B) one where they are discriminated against, and you are working for shit wages, if you had a lick of common sense you'd vote for A).

I said n****r. That description doesn't mean skin color. It means attitude.

How am I voting against my own economic interests if I did well when the Republicans controlled Congress and the Presidency?

Those two comparisons are apples and oranges. I have a very good salary and am opposed to same sex marriage. That's Option C. If you had any sense, you'd know that the options are more than just those you pose. For my wife who is a nurse anethetist, her salary is also excellent. We're living the dream son. Guess you live your failure.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I know you don't.

At least you're not spinning for the almighty "public accommodations laws" any more.

Why keep making an argument I've already won. Even the GOP isn't too keen on carving out a religious exemption for homophobia at this point.

You've won that argument.

Oh, okay.

.

Uh, yeah, you are flaying around screaming "Freedom" like a drunk Mel Gibson, but the reality is, you've lost the argument on gay marriage and you've lost the argument on public accomedation.

And to the lies we go. We were having a civil conversation there for a moment.

"Screaming 'freedom'". Oy.

Joe, there are plenty of rightwingers here with whom you can have this type of conversation. I don't know why you keep trying this with me.

You still don't see that you and I have the same goal. Please play with them, thanks.

.

So Mac..........are both bakers right.....or are both bakers wrong?

If you can explain to us how allowing a baker to refuse service to a gay couple will lead to changing hearts and minds, it may be possible to have a civil conversation. How does that work, exactly?

 

[skookerasbil]

Only one way to describe this level of ghey..................

 

[jknowgood]

Comrade, you are a bigot. As a bigot, you ignore fact in favor of your prejudice.

To many Christians, homosexuality is as great or greater a personal failing as drunkenness is. Because you are a bigot, you cannot grasp that the fact that you disagree is utterly irrelevant.

Anyone who still thinks that in the 21st century is the kind of bigot who needs re-education.

Spoken like a true totalitarian.

Hey, i'm tired of dealing with you fucking rubes. Simply, you bible thumpers are too fucking stupid for me to care about your opinions anymore. But unlike the Plutocrats who keep getting you dumb fucks to vote against your own economic interests, I'll tell you to your face how stupid you are.

Gruber described you well.

 

[skookerasbil]

Comrade, you are a bigot. As a bigot, you ignore fact in favor of your prejudice.

To many Christians, homosexuality is as great or greater a personal failing as drunkenness is. Because you are a bigot, you cannot grasp that the fact that you disagree is utterly irrelevant.

Anyone who still thinks that in the 21st century is the kind of bigot who needs re-education.

Spoken like a true totalitarian.

Hey, i'm tired of dealing with you fucking rubes. Simply, you bible thumpers are too fucking stupid for me to care about your opinions anymore. But unlike the Plutocrats who keep getting you dumb fucks to vote against your own economic interests, I'll tell you to your face how stupid you are.

Gruber described you well.

Yep......guy is the biggest fraud on the whole board. A social oddball and he knows it. JK.....check out his post count.......cant make it up!!!

 

[JoeB131]

And to the lies we go. We were having a civil conversation there for a moment.

"Screaming 'freedom'". Oy.

Joe, there are plenty of rightwingers here with whom you can have this type of conversation. I don't know why you keep trying this with me.

You still don't see that you and I have the same goal. Please play with them, thanks.

As far as I'm concerned, you are worse than they are. They bring their racism and homophobia to the table, warts and all. You try to dress yours up in a nice suit.

 

[jknowgood]

You want to "correct" them, punish them, intimidate them; I want to change hearts & minds.

We have the same ultimate goal, but we'll never agree on the method.

You're right. I live in the real world, where haters don't stop hating because you coddle their hate.

You can talk to a homophobe or a racist all day about how not to say "f****t" or "n****r" because it's bad.

You threaten to fire their asses for it or take away their business, guess what, their behavior gets better.

Alright Gruber, then the queers should bake the cake or lose their business. Maybe next time they won't hate against a Christian.

 

[Mac1958]

And to the lies we go. We were having a civil conversation there for a moment.

"Screaming 'freedom'". Oy.

Joe, there are plenty of rightwingers here with whom you can have this type of conversation. I don't know why you keep trying this with me.

You still don't see that you and I have the same goal. Please play with them, thanks.

As far as I'm concerned, you are worse than they are. They bring their racism and homophobia to the table, warts and all. You try to dress yours up in a nice suit.

So I'm a racist and a homophobe.

Okay, Joe.

I won't try any more. You clearly are not equipped for what I'm saying.

.

 

[jknowgood]

Comrade, you are a bigot. As a bigot, you ignore fact in favor of your prejudice.

To many Christians, homosexuality is as great or greater a personal failing as drunkenness is. Because you are a bigot, you cannot grasp that the fact that you disagree is utterly irrelevant.

Anyone who still thinks that in the 21st century is the kind of bigot who needs re-education.

Spoken like a true totalitarian.

Hey, i'm tired of dealing with you fucking rubes. Simply, you bible thumpers are too fucking stupid for me to care about your opinions anymore. But unlike the Plutocrats who keep getting you dumb fucks to vote against your own economic interests, I'll tell you to your face how stupid you are.

Gruber described you well.

Yep......guy is the biggest fraud on the whole board. A social oddball and he knows it. JK.....check out his post count.......cant make it up!!!

Yep Gruber described you well too. Are you one of the ones defending him?

 

[skookerasbil]

Anyone who still thinks that in the 21st century is the kind of bigot who needs re-education.

Spoken like a true totalitarian.

Hey, i'm tired of dealing with you fucking rubes. Simply, you bible thumpers are too fucking stupid for me to care about your opinions anymore. But unlike the Plutocrats who keep getting you dumb fucks to vote against your own economic interests, I'll tell you to your face how stupid you are.

Gruber described you well.

Yep......guy is the biggest fraud on the whole board. A social oddball and he knows it. JK.....check out his post count.......cant make it up!!!

Yep Gruber described you well too. Are you one of the ones defending him?

Nah dude.....I was talking about JoeB in that last post!!!

 

[JoeB131]

I said n****r. That description doesn't mean skin color. It means attitude.

How am I voting against my own economic interests if I did well when the Republicans controlled Congress and the Presidency?

Well, first i doubt you did. I suspect that like a lot of USMB conservatives, your idea of affluence is owning a double wide. Your posts don't really indicate someone who could make a lot of money doing anything.

Secondly, on the off chance you did, you were the exception. Most of us really did take a beating during the George W. Bush years. Most of us walked into 2009 with busted 401K's and underwater mortgages.

Those two comparisons are apples and oranges. I have a very good salary and am opposed to same sex marriage. That's Option C. If you had any sense, you'd know that the options are more than just those you pose. For my wife who is a nurse anethetist, her salary is also excellent. We're living the dream son. Guess you live your failure.

That's fine and all- but here's the thing. When you probably voted for Bush in 2004 because he was right with gay marriage, the funny thing is he really didn't do anything about it after he won re-election. He did proceed to let the banksters loot wall street and even tried to turn over the Social Security Trust fund to investors.

You clowns are great at voting against your own economic interests.