Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail

[AmyNation]

they spend 13 thousand a year for each kid and they come out dumb as a box of rocks.. a lot of it is the "I don't give a shit cause I've got tenure" teachers. You betchya!

Proof? Link? Show me that "a lot" of the issues with Chicago schools rests on the teachers.

Chicago has a roughly 20% turnover rate for teachers. That's a lot of teachers who are quitting rather then work a well paying job.

The proof is in their resistance to merit based pay idiot.

My sister in law, is a public school teacher in an inner city school. Besides teaching her duties often include keeping kids from pissing in the heater, nailing windows shut so they can't throw things things out the window, and supplying her students with pens/pencils/notebooks. She has to be at school by 6 so she can meet with students who need extra attention, and isn't allowed to leave school until 5, again in case students need to talk.

The rate her kids actually graduate is higher than Chicago, but not by much. Bad teachers, apathetic teachers can cause crappy performance by students. But bad school policies, bad parents, and bad students have just as much effect.

 

[Too Tall]

The irony of it all! A leading Democrat having Union problems. In another article, the Union called Emanuel a "bully" and wanted Obama to talk to Rahm. A 16% raise?!!!

I am on your side, but I believe I heard that raise is 16% over the 4 year life of the contract. That would be 4% a year, which is still a helluva lot more than a lot of folks will get.

 

[Too Tall]

Proof? Link? Show me that "a lot" of the issues with Chicago schools rests on the teachers.

Chicago has a roughly 20% turnover rate for teachers. That's a lot of teachers who are quitting rather then work a well paying job.

The proof is in their resistance to merit based pay idiot.

My sister in law, is a public school teacher in an inner city school. Besides teaching her duties often include keeping kids from pissing in the heater, nailing windows shut so they can't throw things things out the window, and supplying her students with pens/pencils/notebooks. She has to be at school by 6 so she can meet with students who need extra attention, and isn't allowed to leave school until 5, again in case students need to talk.

The rate her kids actually graduate is higher than Chicago, but not by much. Bad teachers, apathetic teachers can cause crappy performance by students. But bad school policies, bad parents, and bad students have just as much effect.

From your description, your sister appears to be one of the many fine teachers in the system. Of course lots of holidays, three months off, free or minimum cost of Health care and retirement have to help. I still remember some of my grade school and high school teachers names and I am older than dirt.

 

[Jackson]

Teaching is not an easy job. It is not one that you can leave the building and think you are done with your work. But some people think it's any easy way to make a good salary and take the summers off. They don't hve the kid's best interests at heart. Teaching is a calling and you don't go into for the money. You go into for the students and a desire to make a difference. Too many teachers are there for the wrong reasons.

When teachers just keep giving grades the students don't deserve and keep passing them on, they aren't doing anyone any favors. The kids just get further behind until it's hopeless to catch up. Then they quit and you have these horrible graducation rates.

We need effective eva;luation procedures for teachers and rigid homework and grading standards. Children from poor homes can excel with the right teachers.

It's time we stopped making excuses and meet the needs of the students and hold both the students and teachers accountable. A good teacher can even motivate parents.

 

[Sinjorri]

Proof? Link? Show me that "a lot" of the issues with Chicago schools rests on the teachers.

Chicago has a roughly 20% turnover rate for teachers. That's a lot of teachers who are quitting rather then work a well paying job.

The proof is in their resistance to merit based pay idiot.

My sister in law, is a public school teacher in an inner city school. Besides teaching her duties often include keeping kids from pissing in the heater, nailing windows shut so they can't throw things things out the window, and supplying her students with pens/pencils/notebooks. She has to be at school by 6 so she can meet with students who need extra attention, and isn't allowed to leave school until 5, again in case students need to talk.

The rate her kids actually graduate is higher than Chicago, but not by much. Bad teachers, apathetic teachers can cause crappy performance by students. But bad school policies, bad parents, and bad students have just as much effect.

wow she sounds like any other worker lets pay her more tho. so much for equality. but i tend to see that with libs.

 

[Sinjorri]

Teaching is not an easy job. It is not one that you can leave the building and think you are done with your work. But some people think it's any easy way to make a good salary and take the summers off. They don't hve the kid's best interests at heart. Teaching is a calling and you don't go into for the money. You go into for the students and a desire to make a difference. Too many teachers are there for the wrong reasons.

When teachers just keep giving grades the students don't deserve and keep passing them on, they aren't doing anyone any favors. The kids just get further behind until it's hopeless to catch up. Then they quit and you have these horrible graducation rates.

We need effective eva;luation procedures for teachers and rigid homework and grading standards. Children from poor homes can excel with the right teachers.

It's time we stopped making excuses and meet the needs of the students and hold both the students and teachers accountable. A good teacher can even motivate parents.

accountability maybe its going to make a come back.

 

[Jackson]

What will working parents do if Chicago's teachers strike?

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Read the parents comments at the end of the story. They clearly are not happy. Will that give Emanuel more leverage? I hope so!

 

[WillowTree]

Proof? Link? Show me that "a lot" of the issues with Chicago schools rests on the teachers.

Chicago has a roughly 20% turnover rate for teachers. That's a lot of teachers who are quitting rather then work a well paying job.

The proof is in their resistance to merit based pay idiot.

My sister in law, is a public school teacher in an inner city school. Besides teaching her duties often include keeping kids from pissing in the heater, nailing windows shut so they can't throw things things out the window, and supplying her students with pens/pencils/notebooks. She has to be at school by 6 so she can meet with students who need extra attention, and isn't allowed to leave school until 5, again in case students need to talk.

The rate her kids actually graduate is higher than Chicago, but not by much. Bad teachers, apathetic teachers can cause crappy performance by students. But bad school policies, bad parents, and bad students have just as much effect.

My daughter in law teaches special needs children. Autistic children.

 

[Jackson]

The proof is in their resistance to merit based pay idiot.

My sister in law, is a public school teacher in an inner city school. Besides teaching her duties often include keeping kids from pissing in the heater, nailing windows shut so they can't throw things things out the window, and supplying her students with pens/pencils/notebooks. She has to be at school by 6 so she can meet with students who need extra attention, and isn't allowed to leave school until 5, again in case students need to talk.

The rate her kids actually graduate is higher than Chicago, but not by much. Bad teachers, apathetic teachers can cause crappy performance by students. But bad school policies, bad parents, and bad students have just as much effect.

My daughter in law teaches special needs children. Autistic children.

The harder the job, the more rewarding it is! Congratulate her!

 

[AmyNation]

The proof is in their resistance to merit based pay idiot.

My sister in law, is a public school teacher in an inner city school. Besides teaching her duties often include keeping kids from pissing in the heater, nailing windows shut so they can't throw things things out the window, and supplying her students with pens/pencils/notebooks. She has to be at school by 6 so she can meet with students who need extra attention, and isn't allowed to leave school until 5, again in case students need to talk.

The rate her kids actually graduate is higher than Chicago, but not by much. Bad teachers, apathetic teachers can cause crappy performance by students. But bad school policies, bad parents, and bad students have just as much effect.

wow she sounds like any other worker lets pay her more tho. so much for equality. but i tend to see that with libs.

 

[eflatminor]

Big picture, I see this entire debate as just another symptom of the government monopoly on affordable education. Whether it's at the state or federal level, centrally planned markets always produce shitty results with costs that outpace the overall rate of inflation.

Liberals and Conservatives alike often disagree with me, but the more I see of our education market, the more I think we need to get government out of education. No more dictating what's in the text books, no more committees to tell us how many tater tots will be served at lunch. No more public sector unions. Let the free market build a competitive market for education in this country and we'd re-write the book on what an effective education looks like, and we'd do it at every level of affordability.

You want to make a case for funding assistance for poor folks at the state level? Fine, but unless we end the government monopoly, shit like this union strike is inevitable...right along with runaway costs and kids that can't read.

"Public educators, like Soviet farmers, lack any incentive to produce results, innovate, to be efficient, to make the kinds of of difficult changes that private firms operating in a competitive market must make to survive."

 

[Too Tall]

Its ok, this will just lead to a greater number of administrative heavy charter schools with their terrible facilities that pay sometimes unqualified teachers 30k.

Bet our school taxes won't go down though.

I need a link to the 30K pay for charter school teachers, since I don't believe it, and there are 45,000 Chicago kids in school TODAY in the Chicago Charter schools.

 

[Too Tall]

Teaching is not an easy job. It is not one that you can leave the building and think you are done with your work. But some people think it's any easy way to make a good salary and take the summers off. They don't hve the kid's best interests at heart. Teaching is a calling and you don't go into for the money. You go into for the students and a desire to make a difference. Too many teachers are there for the wrong reasons.

When teachers just keep giving grades the students don't deserve and keep passing them on, they aren't doing anyone any favors. The kids just get further behind until it's hopeless to catch up. Then they quit and you have these horrible graducation rates.

We need effective eva;luation procedures for teachers and rigid homework and grading standards. Children from poor homes can excel with the right teachers.

It's time we stopped making excuses and meet the needs of the students and hold both the students and teachers accountable. A good teacher can even motivate parents.

accountability maybe its going to make a come back.

That will NEVER happen as long as there are teachers unions. Period!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Our "educational" System has been sabotaged. Teachers don't teach, they train students to be wards of the state and it's set up so that eventually pensions paid to those practicing this American brand of intellectual pedophilia will consume 100% of the annual school budget.

Do you still not see that the system is sabotaged and designed to fail?

This is why I put Bush43 down under Satan ass in the Ninth Circle, he should have reformed our educational system staring with abolishing the Department of Education and outlawing the UFT. Instead he not only continued the sabotage but let that fat fucking murderer from MA write "No Child Left Behind"

 

[Sinjorri]

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wow she sounds like any other worker lets pay her more tho. so much for equality. but i tend to see that with libs.[/QUOTE]

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i dont want to shock you, but other people work hard too not just teachers. and they work on their days off too. and dare i say some work longer hours for less money and benefits. but u dont let those facts affect you and ur doctrine.

 

[Sinjorri]

Our "educational" System has been sabotaged. Teachers don't teach, they train students to be wards of the state and it's set up so that eventually pensions paid to those practicing this American brand of intellectual pedophilia will consume 100% of the annual school budget.

Do you still not see that the system is sabotaged and designed to fail?

This is why I put Bush43 down under Satan ass in the Ninth Circle, he should have reformed our educational system staring with abolishing the Department of Education and outlawing the UFT. Instead he not only continued the sabotage but let that fat fucking murderer from MA write "No Child Left Behind"

preach it.

 

[American_Jihad]

Socialist revolutionaries, Che Guevara part of Chicago teachers strike

September 11, 2012
By: Joe Newby

On Monday, teachers in Chicago went on strike, but a post at EAG News says the strike looks more like a rally for socialist revolution complete with Che Guevara t-shirts and anarchist flags as "a supportive collection of political radicals" joined the teachers on the picket lines.

"We thought this was a teachers strike, not a rally for a socialist revolution. Perhaps there is no difference between the two anymore," Kyle Olson wrote.

According to one flag-bearing protester, the banner represented "revolutionary unionism,” which, according to a post at the International Workers Association, "aims to unite all workers in combative economic organizations, that fight to free themselves from the double yoke of capital and the State."


Its goal is the reorganization of social life on the basis of Libertarian Communism via the revolutionary action of the working class," the IAW explained.

Olson translated it to mean: "[G]overnment of the unions, by the unions and for the unions."

According to an article at Breitbart.com, teachers in a school network in the Pilsen neighborhood of Chicago have adopted a “syndicalist platform,” which is another form of revolutionary unionism, and elected their delegate based on that platform.

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Socialist revolutionaries, Che Guevara part of Chicago teachers strike - National Policy & Issues | Examiner.com

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