Cheap Labor Conservatives Throughout US History

So you're going to try to tell us we really were a socialist state all along? Capitalism made us number one, like no other nation ever in the history of the world. Many liberals have done very well with our system. The further left we go, the worse the economy gets and liberals think more of the same is the solution. Go figure.

When we go further right the US economy suffers. Examples Harding Coolidge Hoover got the great depression. bushcheney = the crash of 2008, which Obama is slowly getting us out of. Tariffs as per Hamilton helped this country become a number one world power, not the cheap labor free trade.
 
I myself am descended of property-owners. It can be said that my grandfather,finally got the cows out of Texas, way before the Republicans would set about freeing them too! Now there are liberals, called Vegans, instead. Republicans and Hare Krishna even have religion in common, if not exactly. Property has never been cheap, actually. An $800.00 black was a major asset before 1860. Many had hundreds of them. Banks knew about this, and then it was all gone. Even the land was worthless.

That aside, actually: Moses was an educated man, raised in Egypt. Possibly Moses new of the Code of Hammurabi--and other Mid-Eastern ways--from way before his own 40 year problem with the GPS. Anyone would say, he was really that educated(?): Harvard Law School, even at its best, is thought educated. So slavery had been a customary source of labor before then. Before then, even currency was less at issue, and so commodity exchange masked the price and cost of labor. If there is currency, then also the matter of arithmetic follows--which did not occur in Genesis One, no matter how many days anyone thinks there may have been.

In Deuteronomy 23:19-20--and elsewhere--the concept of arithmetic in human affairs, involving currency: Was being understood. Not everyone could understand it(?), and so even way before Moses, even debts had started to happen. The application of the arithmetic was becoming less and less benign. In Babylon, a three-year term of enslavement--as settlement of debts--did provide a measure of housing, food, and work clothes protection for the wife and kids. The Old Man was debt-free. The community could continue. Later on, in Egypt, merely the death of one monarch meant slavery, even for the Jewish Refugees. By the time of Jesus, slaves had been set--in Rome--to killing one another for sport and spectacle. Profits were already widely understood. Those were of value, the humanity was not. Jesus could look back at usury--in Matthew 25:14-30--and try to reinvent the already more ancient concept of community--in Matthew 20:1-16. Everyone was more prosperous, and could be set into the market-place, even the very next day. Many had been going about possibly, even other marketplace business, even until the last hour: When they were hired.

Moses had failed to understand the effect of the arithmetic usury. Inverse usury was not on radar. Jews were set to screwing up everyone else. World Community and Peace was not at hand: All thanks to Moses--an educated man. Not Mohammed, not Adam Smith, not Karl Marx, Not Keynes, Not Milton Friedman--No one would note the difference that is shown in the New Testament stories, possibly of Greek or Roman origin. Israel had twice been conquered by the greater deities of Greece and Rome. You could get that awareness from most people, at the time. In the usury story, in Matthew: The square root of five squared, plus the square root of five squared--if you think of an upside down right triangle, would create a new income scale of about length seven. The household was not enriched the expected eight talents. Moses did not have the apparent concept. Likely Babylon had no need of it.

And should you spread the story, your kids or grandchildren will likely be whipped til they bleed, by your neighborhood school headmaster, way before Santa Claus arrives!
That concept can apparently, be understood worldwide.

In school, some kids are better than other kids, and all the other kids are not worth the extra effort.

This is an educated species, and even teenage girls get prize money for wanting to do that, or whatever it was Cosby thought he was doing(?). . . .Or the teenage girl(?).
Doctor Cosby, EdD, is an educated(?) man. . .apparently more than most(?).

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many on Lands of Many Nations can take $25.00 worth of beads and trinkets, and now buy Moscow, instead!)

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So you're going to try to tell us we really were a socialist state all along? Capitalism made us number one, like no other nation ever in the history of the world. Many liberals have done very well with our system. The further left we go, the worse the economy gets and liberals think more of the same is the solution. Go figure.

When we go further right the US economy suffers. Examples Harding Coolidge Hoover got the great depression. bushcheney = the crash of 2008, which Obama is slowly getting us out of. Tariffs as per Hamilton helped this country become a number one world power, not the cheap labor free trade.
You are working your obama toy pretty hard. Give it a rest. The Dims helped quite a lot with the spending but you wouldn't know it to listen to them today. Quite a few factors were involved but you'd need your guardian to walk it through with you. obama, like other libs made the same mistake by thinking he could spend our way into prosperity.

Only you far left hacks believe it, America woke up to it and obviously doesn't agree that we are doing better due to government confiscation of wealth and spending.
 
The standard response - far left hack, Obama toy. That took a lot of effort on your part.
 
The standard response - far left hack, Obama toy. That took a lot of effort on your part.
You missed the rest of the post then. You're blaming conservatives for poor economic results? And Bush was no fiscal conservative, neither were the Democrats that took over congress before it started to tank.
 
No, it depends on how you define the purpose of a business. The purpose of a business is to generate as much profit as you can.
That works well in the short term for a lucky, hard-working few. In the long term, the externalities businesses inflict on the greater society in pursuit of maximum profit work to the disadvantage of a majority of citizens.

Reciting vague bullshit is not a valid position.
 
You mean guys like KKK Byrd?
And a few other conservatives and their manifesto:
"However, the Southern Democrats controlled the entire south with only token Republican opposition, and thus had both liberal and conservative factions.

"While the South had many New Deal supporters it also had many conservatives opposed to the expansion of federal power.

"Among their leaders were Senators Harry Byrd and Carter Glass of Virginia and Vice-President John Nance Garner of Texas. U.S. Senator Josiah Bailey (D-NC) released a 'Conservative Manifesto' in December 1937,[1] which included several statements of conservative philosophical tenets, including the line 'Give enterprise a chance, and I will give you the guarantees of a happy and prosperous America.'"

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 
Reciting vague bullshit is not a valid position
"Social Benefit Ignored. A free market will ignore extenalities. A profit maximising capitalist firm is likely to ignore negative externalities, such as pollution from production.

"This can harm living standards.

"Similarly, a free market economy will under-provide goods with positive externalities, such as health, public transport and education.

"This leads to an inefficient allocation of resources.

"Even supporters of capitalism will admit that government provision of certain public goods and public services is essential to maximise the potential of a capitalist society."

Pros and Cons of Capitalism Economics Help
 
Reciting vague bullshit is not a valid position
"Social Benefit Ignored. A free market will ignore extenalities. A profit maximising capitalist firm is likely to ignore negative externalities, such as pollution from production.

"This can harm living standards.

"Similarly, a free market economy will under-provide goods with positive externalities, such as health, public transport and education.

"This leads to an inefficient allocation of resources.

"Even supporters of capitalism will admit that government provision of certain public goods and public services is essential to maximise the potential of a capitalist society."

Pros and Cons of Capitalism Economics Help

Translation: A free market society will give the people what they ask for.
 
First of all the post should be in the conspiracy forum or maybe "history according to the low information left". "Cheap labor conservatives" did what? Supported George 111 in the American revolution? I thought we called them Torries or Loyalists. Nobody in history ever called them "cheap labor conservatives" until now. Where do radical lefties come up with stuff?
 
Translation: A free market society will give the people what they ask for.
Capitalism fails to provide equality of outcome and equality of opportunity so it's a little hard to imagine 90% of the people getting what they ask for; unless they're asking for multi-generational poverty.

False. The outcome is always equal. The people get exactly what they want. If they did not want, why would they purchase? If they did not want, why would they purchase when they price goes higher? If they did not want, then why would they accept the job? If they did not want, why would they accept the job despite the low pay?

A free market gives the people what they want.
 
Supported George 111 in the American revolution? I thought we called them Torries or Loyalists. Nobody in history ever called them "cheap labor conservatives" until now. Where do radical lefties come up with stuff?
Cheap labor conservatives supported the divine right of kings, religious persecution, child labor, subjugation of women, prohibition and segregation. Where do "righties" get their short memories?
 
Supported George 111 in the American revolution? I thought we called them Torries or Loyalists. Nobody in history ever called them "cheap labor conservatives" until now. Where do radical lefties come up with stuff?
Cheap labor conservatives supported the divine right of kings, religious persecution, child labor, subjugation of women, prohibition and segregation. Where do "righties" get their short memories?
Maybe modern pop-culture educated lefties are confused by old political labels. Back in the day, George 3 defenders would have been liberals or progressives.
 
Supported George 111 in the American revolution? I thought we called them Torries or Loyalists. Nobody in history ever called them "cheap labor conservatives" until now. Where do radical lefties come up with stuff?
Cheap labor conservatives supported the divine right of kings, religious persecution, child labor, subjugation of women, prohibition and segregation. Where do "righties" get their short memories?
Maybe modern pop-culture educated lefties are confused by old political labels. Back in the day, George 3 defenders would have been liberals or progressives.

Loyalist (American Revolution)

Yale historian Leonard Woods Larabee has identified eight characteristics of the Loyalists that made them essentially conservative and loyal to the king and Britain:[6]

  • They were older, better established, and resisted radical change.
  • They felt that rebellion against the Crown—the legitimate government—was morally wrong.
  • They were alienated when the Patriots resorted to violence, such as burning houses and tarring and feathering.
  • They wanted to take a middle-of-the road position and were angry when forced by the Patriots to declare their opposition.
  • They had a long-standing sentimental attachment to Britain (often with business and family links).
  • They were procrastinators who realized that independence was bound to come some day, but wanted to postpone the moment.
  • They were cautious and afraid that chaos and mob rule would result.
  • Some were pessimists who lacked the confidence in the future displayed by the Patriots. Others recalled the dreadful experiences of Scots who rebelled in Scotland and lost their lands when the king won.[7][8][9]
Other motivations of the Loyalists were:

  • They felt a need for order and believed that Parliament was the legitimate authority.[10]
  • In New York, powerful families had assembled colony-wide coalitions of supporters, Men long associated with the DeLancey faction went along when its leadership decided to support the crown.[11]
  • They felt themselves to be weak or threatened within American society and in need of an outside defender such as the British Crown and Parliament.[12]
  • They had been promised freedom from slavery by the British.[13][14][15]
  • They felt that being a part of the British Empire was crucial in terms of commerce and their business operations [16][17][18]
 
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So you're going to try to tell us we really were a socialist state all along? Capitalism made us number one, like no other nation ever in the history of the world. Many liberals have done very well with our system. The further left we go, the worse the economy gets and liberals think more of the same is the solution. Go figure.

When we go further right the US economy suffers. Examples Harding Coolidge Hoover got the great depression. bushcheney = the crash of 2008, which Obama is slowly getting us out of. Tariffs as per Hamilton helped this country become a number one world power, not the cheap labor free trade.
You are working your obama toy pretty hard. Give it a rest. The Dims helped quite a lot with the spending but you wouldn't know it to listen to them today. Quite a few factors were involved but you'd need your guardian to walk it through with you. obama, like other libs made the same mistake by thinking he could spend our way into prosperity.

Only you far left hacks believe it, America woke up to it and obviously doesn't agree that we are doing better due to government confiscation of wealth and spending.

FALSE...When liberals were in power (New Deal through the Great Society) they PAID FOR what they spent through tax revenue...thus the conservative demeaning label "tax and spend liberals"...

Ronald Reagan changed all that.

Where did our debt come from? When did massive debt become part of the American economy? Was it New Deal Democrats? No....they PAYED for what they spent. It all started with the 'welfare queen' mentality of Ronny Reagan who switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy.

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Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt. By the end of the 12 years of the Reagan-Bush administrations, the national debt had quadrupled to $4 trillion!




And where was all this angst and concern about debt from conservatives when Bush and Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for almost a decade??? When Bush was starting a 3 trillion dollar war of ideology in Iraq, there was not a fucking PEEP from you right wingers, just cheers and 'bring 'em on'... And where was this less government mantra? You right wingers LOVED BIG government and government intervention into people lives... the Patriot Act, trashing habeas corpus, the Geneva Conventions and the US War Crimes Act.


"The debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
David Stockman - Director of the Office of Management and Budget for U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

"The excuse cannot be used that Congress massively increased Reagan's budget proposals. On the contrary, there was never much difference between Reagan's and Congress's budgets, and despite propaganda to the contrary, Reagan never proposed a cut in the total budget."
Murray N. Rothbard - former Dean of the Austrian School, an economist, economic historian, and libertarian political philosopher

“Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. Reagan was an ideological inflection point, ending a 50-year liberal ascendancy and beginning a 30-year conservative ascendancy."
Charles Krauthammer

"Grover Norquist has no plan to pay this debt down. His plan says you continue to add to the debt..."
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.)
 
So you're going to try to tell us we really were a socialist state all along? Capitalism made us number one, like no other nation ever in the history of the world. Many liberals have done very well with our system. The further left we go, the worse the economy gets and liberals think more of the same is the solution. Go figure.

When we go further right the US economy suffers. Examples Harding Coolidge Hoover got the great depression. bushcheney = the crash of 2008, which Obama is slowly getting us out of. Tariffs as per Hamilton helped this country become a number one world power, not the cheap labor free trade.
You are working your obama toy pretty hard. Give it a rest. The Dims helped quite a lot with the spending but you wouldn't know it to listen to them today. Quite a few factors were involved but you'd need your guardian to walk it through with you. obama, like other libs made the same mistake by thinking he could spend our way into prosperity.

Only you far left hacks believe it, America woke up to it and obviously doesn't agree that we are doing better due to government confiscation of wealth and spending.

FALSE...When liberals were in power (New Deal through the Great Society) they PAID FOR what they spent through tax revenue...thus the conservative demeaning label "tax and spend liberals"...

Ronald Reagan changed all that.
False. We had a deficit prior to his administration and the Dims refused to cut any spending. Carter gutted the military, which is how libs typically reduce spending and Reagan did ramp it back up at great expense, but history has proven it to be money well spent. But blaming Reagan for obama's spending is just retarded.
 

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