Charlottesville Driver May have Been Panicked into Losing Control of His Car

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    Wong answer. Try again.

    Hatred, bigotry and racism has no place in this country. Even Trump condemned these animals.
     
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    1. Do you not know how to communicate with others? You're doing it now. If you feel the need to speak directly to members of hate groups, I'm sure many have websites you can go to and post messages.
    If you are actually asking how you can convince hate groups to change their minds.....figure that out and your name will go down in history.

    2. Again, no one is saying you have to ignore anything. The only options are not to ignore something or to commit violence against that thing.
    If groups directly threaten or commit violence, there are laws against that. They should be arrested and charged.
    Do you know my religious affiliation or ethnicity? Do you know that I am not Jewish?

    You seem to have a problem with the idea that freedom of speech covers offensive speech. You or I may not agree with racism or bigotry, but that doesn't justify assault.

    Whatever the president may have said, racism and bigotry are not a valid justification for assault.
     
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    Condemning someone is different from assaulting them or otherwise committing violent acts against them, which is where this all started.
     
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    Correct. There are right ways and wrong ways to react to hateful rhetoric. Violence is worse than just saying things.


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    Do you realize that you said doing what's legal is the wrong answer?


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    It's common for prosecutors to over-charge. If the Defense keeps racists off the jury, there won't be a murder conviction. The driver was in a hostile crowd that had attacked his car, making fleeing a reasonable thing. It just so happens his path was blocked by a car. If he wanted to hurt people, he would have swerved to the crowded sidewalk instead of hitting the car in front of him.

    The bimbo who died was breaking the law by being in the street. She also shouldn't have been part of the mob bent on denying others their free speech rights.
     
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    Her cause of death being a heart attack, doesn't help the prosecution much...
     
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    Life in prison sounds like a good idea for him.
     
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    This thread has over 100 pages going over this, so I won't get into much detail. To summarize, the sidewalk wasn't particularly more crowded than the street; by the time the car was struck, it was already probably going to hit someone; if there had been no car, it's entirely possible that Fields still wouldn't have been able to pass through, because of how crowded the streets were; it does not require racism for someone to look at the evidence and believe this was an attack rather than some sort of escape attempt.
     
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