CDZ Chances of a USA breakup

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What do you think is the probability the USA will exist in its current form in 100 or so years?

  1. 0% to 25%

    13 vote(s)
    44.8%
  2. 25% to 50%

    3 vote(s)
    10.3%
  3. 50% to 75%

    2 vote(s)
    6.9%
  4. 75% to 100%

    11 vote(s)
    37.9%
  1. JakeStarkey
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    Trump is anti-America, yes, to his very bone.
     
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    As partisan as it may get- we are stronger together than stronger apart.

    As much as Republicans want to paint Democrats as hating America, and vice versa, in reality most Americans of both parties deeply love America and don't want to be part of South Unitedstan or West Unitedslavia.
     
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    That's the idea, because the America you people were building was never the intent of the Founders.
     
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    Interesting post MPS777
    I think the changes that will happen will allow "states" to continue as they are
    geographically, as sovereign states under a Constitutional federal govt.
    But the "splitting off" will occur with democratized use of
    * political parties to manage collective pools on both state and national levels
    * credit unions and reserves where states and locales can manage their own currency, labor and local economy
    * systems of legal redress, restitution, judicial and citizen reviews, etc. to directly resolve conflicts and address abuses

    So yes there will be changes, but by adding to the given states and systems.
    I would also like to see more independent city-states, such as along the border,
    owned developed and governed by the actual workers and residents
    under a campus system of teaching and training the populations to be self-sustaining economically and politically.

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    Yup, no slaves, no indentured servants, no workers for the manors. Tough.

    Em, whom I admire so much, is absolutely mistaken in the future of the USA.

    It will be autocratic, not democratic. The control down from the national and state governments will create a more rigid, supervised lifestyle for the inhabitants of America.

    The reaction to 9-11 has put the country on a more authoritarian path that will not reverse itself.
     
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    America is currently progressive, that's been the case for decades.

    The regressive, reactionary right represents minority government hostile to the progress that has been realized the last forty years, and conservatives' unwarranted fear of change, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty.
     
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    Which is really just conservatism.

    Conservatives who seek to compel conformity and punish dissent.
     
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    The idea Progressives require/want government to accomplish anything is part and parcel to their desire to be forward thinking.
    Meanwhile ... The government sorely lags in accountability, sustainability, corrective action and compliance that is merely commonplace in private industry and corporate management.

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