CDC: Accidental car deaths 2013...35,369. Accidental gun deaths 2013...505.

[2aguy]

Any study that does not account for LEO cases is inaccurate

No...not at all, it studies normal citizens and how often they are required to use guns for self defense.......leo stats are already figured every year.........

 

[2aguy]

And they don't exclude the LEO, they can't. Every time a copy draws his or gun, hopefully, it is in self defense.

Sorry, police and military were exluded in 9 of the 16 studies...not to mention the others.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, they weren't, because the study is not legitimate if they were.

 

[2aguy]

No, they weren't, because the study is not legitimate if they were.

How is a study that examines the defensive use of guns by non military and police not legitimate.........that is just stupid.....try again.....

 

[rightwinger]

 

[2aguy]

Again...for the new comers...Dr. Kleck and his study....no police, no military....strictly civilian use of guns for self defense...

Armed Resistance to Crime The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, they weren't, because the study is not legitimate if they were.

How is a study that examines the defensive use of guns by non military and police not legitimate.........that is just stupid.....try again.....

You are stupid, you have not made a viable argument.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

"CDC: Accidental car deaths 2013...35,369. Accidental gun deaths 2013...505."

This fails as a false comparison fallacy.

The OP is truly an idiot.

Can you imagine the outrage if we had 32,000 intentional car deaths?

we have 35,369 car deaths right now....and you fools are concerned about 505 accidental gun deaths.....

The real question is, why aren't YOU concerned about ALL gun deaths?

As usual, Brietbart is lying about nothing being done, past and present, to prevent auto-related deaths.

 

[2aguy]

Well...the majority of gun murderers are democrats...so perhaps we should ban that party....and anything from the brady campain is a lie......

And silly you....all of those countries....have far more gun control than we do...and their criminals still get guns when they want or need them...

Much like suicide in Japan and South Korea are a cultural issue, so is the use of guns in Europe...their criminals don't use them that much...as a matter of culture, not access......Europe is awash in illegal guns from the east and Africa.....and their criminals have a much more lethal selection of fully automatic military grade weapons......

and of course.....their murder rate is far higher than ours when you add murder committed by government.......then they out do us by a lot....because they have so few guns...the German government killed them in the millions....

I would prefer to keep our murder rate low and keep the government from murdering so many people....

 

[2aguy]

No, they weren't, because the study is not legitimate if they were.

How is a study that examines the defensive use of guns by non military and police not legitimate.........that is just stupid.....try again.....

You are stupid, you have not made a viable argument.

You are a fucking twit...and you say you have a badge.........you don't work in Baltimore do you....in a certain wagon....good luck on your court case....

 

[Pogo]

And Americans are 7,000 times more likely to drive, so your figures are out the window. Run along, silly boy.

Doesn't matter how much more they drive.....pile up the bodies....cars....35,369 guns 505....

You gun grabbers ...

What makes you say Jake's a "gun grabber"?

That is a lie.....they include suicides....the only way they can get a big number....so they are lying....

car deaths 35,369 accidental gun deaths 505

Suicides aren't deaths? What the fuck are they?

Sorry....suicides are due to mental illness, not guns...

By that logic, so are gun deaths. Unless you think killin' people is a sane thing to do.
Your own logic...

 

[JakeStarkey]

I own thirteen weapons of my own and store nine others.

 

[2aguy]

"CDC: Accidental car deaths 2013...35,369. Accidental gun deaths 2013...505."

This fails as a false comparison fallacy.

The OP is truly an idiot.

Can you imagine the outrage if we had 32,000 intentional car deaths?

we have 35,369 car deaths right now....and you fools are concerned about 505 accidental gun deaths.....

The real question is, why aren't YOU concerned about ALL gun deaths?

As usual, Brietbart is lying about nothing being done, past and present, to prevent auto-related deaths.

Breitbart never said that...

And I am concerned.....

I want gun safety lessons in all grade schools...to actually save lives of children and those children and their families as they grow up...

I want long prison sentences for felons and other criminals...the ones who actually use guns for crime...

I am not irrationally afraid of guns and since over 320 million guns aren't used for crimes...I will try to stop the ones that are....

 

[2aguy]

And Americans are 7,000 times more likely to drive, so your figures are out the window. Run along, silly boy.

Doesn't matter how much more they drive.....pile up the bodies....cars....35,369 guns 505....

You gun grabbers ...

What makes you say Jake's a "gun grabber"?

That is a lie.....they include suicides....the only way they can get a big number....so they are lying....

car deaths 35,369 accidental gun deaths 505

Suicides aren't deaths? What the fuck are they?

No...suicides aren't a gun issue...they are a mental illness issue....otherwise Japan and South Korea would have less suicides than us, not more....

 

[2aguy]

I own thirteen weapons of my own and store nine others.

And many of the gun grabbers we know about have private security that carry guns or own guns themselves..they don't want others to have guns...they exempt themselves...

Like bloomberg, rosie o'donell and shannon watts..

 

[rightwinger]

 

[JakeStarkey]

And Americans are 7,000 times more likely to drive, so your figures are out the window. Run along, silly boy.

Doesn't matter how much more they drive.....pile up the bodies....cars....35,369 guns 505....

You gun grabbers ...

What makes you say Jake's a "gun grabber"?

That is a lie.....they include suicides....the only way they can get a big number....so they are lying....

car deaths 35,369 accidental gun deaths 505

Suicides aren't deaths? What the fuck are they?

No...suicides aren't a gun issue...they are a mental illness issue....otherwise Japan and South Korea would have less suicides than us, not more....

And guns are more useful than say a fork.

 

[Esmeralda]

That is a lie.....they include suicides....the only way they can get a big number....so they are lying....

car deaths 35,369 accidental gun deaths 505

Dead is dead......no other nation on earth would tolerate 32000 gun deaths

Thank your second amendment

505 accidental gun deaths
32,000 on purpose

Thank the NRA

no, 8,454 on purpose....suicides do not count since so many other countries with complete gun bans have more suicides than we do....they don't count....

many other nations tolerate a higher suicide rate....at over 40,000 dead...far more than us....

Again...car deaths...35,369 accidental gun deaths 505

 

[JakeStarkey]

I own thirteen weapons of my own and store nine others.

And many of the gun grabbers we know about have private security that carry guns or own guns themselves..they don't want others to have guns...they exempt themselves...

Like bloomberg, rosie o'donell and shannon watts..

Stay focused, son.

 

[rightwinger]

Well...the majority of gun murderers are democrats...so perhaps we should ban that party....and anything from the brady campain is a lie......

And silly you....all of those countries....have far more gun control than we do...and their criminals still get guns when they want or need them...

Much like suicide in Japan and South Korea are a cultural issue, so is the use of guns in Europe...their criminals don't use them that much...as a matter of culture, not access......Europe is awash in illegal guns from the east and Africa.....and their criminals have a much more lethal selection of fully automatic military grade weapons......

and of course.....their murder rate is far higher than ours when you add murder committed by government.......then they out do us by a lot....because they have so few guns...the German government killed them in the millions....

I would prefer to keep our murder rate low and keep the government from murdering so many people....

You are sounding desperate as you avoid the obvious