Can you provide evidence that Obama's policies are the direct reason for the...

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    ...increase in unemployment rate during his presidency?

    Keep in my mind that Obama said in mid 2009 that he expected the unemployment rate would likely rise to 10% in the next couple of years.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=auTTvgeN294Y

    I don't think it's fair to put all of the blame on Obama simply because he is president.
    Obama has created 2.5 million jobs and saved even more. I do agree he could have done more (how much?), but I have yet to be convinced that Obama is the reason why the unemployment rate is as high as it is.

    I really am open to answers on this. I want answers that illlustrate how his policies have been detrimental on a national level.
     
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    Unemployment is a classic lagging economic indicator. We were bleeding jobs when Obama came into office as a result of the Bush economic meltdown of late 2008.
     
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    This is a great example of the kind of thinking employed by those who still support the Big 0.

    When the Big 0 took office, we had just entered into a recession. His policies were based on the fact that most recessions last between 12 and 18 months. He thought that regardless of anything that he did or did not do, he would get credit for the recovery which was almost certainly going to occur.

    The recovery has yet to occur.

    The question, then, is not what he might have done to create the recovery, but, rather, what has he done that stopped it.

    Recoveries have always occurred within 12 to 18 months and this one has not.

    Bush has been out of office for 3 years. He has no effect on what the Big 0 is doing. This is the property and fault of the Big 0.

    If you refuse to acknowledge the actual cause, you will never correct that cause and find a solution.

    Those who still support the Big 0 have no grasp of reality.
     
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    You're delusional. There are about 5 million fewer people working in the USA today than there were the day that the Big 0 tool office. Your quoting jobs figures that simply are not true.

    If jobs were "saved" and "created" there would be more jobs, not fewer jobs.

    The population has continued to grow, the jobs continue to shrink.

    In what possible form of logic can you justify the created or saved meme that the owned profess?
     
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    You wingers need to huddle up and get your facts straight. I just read in another thread from PoliticalChic..........

    So according to HER "source" Reagan still had effects on the economy 20 YEARS LATER. And she even tried to back it up with a link.

    Personally I think you're all full of shit and would say anything to pin blame on Obama.
     
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    Yeah, well it was Barry's administration in Jan. '09 that claimed the (failed) stimulus would keep unemployment below 8%, and I don't recall our esteemed president calling out his people over it. So he can stick whatever he might have said about unemployment later in the year up his keister.
     
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    That there's the biggie. When President Obama took office, we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. We are now gaining jobs. How do you spin that as bad?
     
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    Yes, thank you for explaing this better than I did.
     
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    What makes these figures untrue? Just because something sounds right, it doesn't mean it is right. You can dispute facts
     
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    The facts are quite simple.

    The best you can do is estimate. The thought of using hard numbers from the bureau of labor statistics hasnt occurred to you because they dont match your BS.

    Again just facts.
     

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