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Marx and Engels Internet ArchiveDefine "true communism" then, or at least give me an idea of how far Cuba is from it. They can't be that far away though, but i'm sure that small difference is the reason why most people there live in misery rather than utopia.And Cuba is not a true communist state.
That communism in the USSR sure worked out well though, didn't it? They should be ashamed of themselves losing the cold war to those capitalist pig Americans.
Strong SOCIAL safety nets are working quite well in the EU, and so is managed capitalism. Did you know that Ireland has even freer markets than we do? There are no socialist states in the EU.Socialism is working quite well in the European Union.
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Communist-Manifesto-Signet-Classics/dp/0451527100]Amazon.com: The Communist Manifesto (Signet Classics) (9780451527103): Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Martin Malia: Books[/ame]Please explain communism to us.It would help if you learned what communism means, Libo.
☭proletarian☭;1953431 said:Marx and Engels Internet ArchiveDefine "true communism" then, or at least give me an idea of how far Cuba is from it. They can't be that far away though, but i'm sure that small difference is the reason why most people there live in misery rather than utopia.And Cuba is not a true communist state.
That communism in the USSR sure worked out well though, didn't it? They should be ashamed of themselves losing the cold war to those capitalist pig Americans.
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The CCCP was far from communism. Marx said himself that Russia was nowhere near the condition necessary for a communist society to emerge. He was right.
Such a society can not be forced into existence.
The EU thinks Obama is too socialist for them.................
Socialism is working quite well in the European Union.
Strong SOCIAL safety nets are working quite well in the EU, and so is managed capitalism. Did you know that Ireland has even freer markets than we do? There are no socialist states in the EU.
The EU thinks Obama is too socialist for them.................
I call bullshit on that.
☭proletarian☭;1953431 said:Marx and Engels Internet ArchiveDefine "true communism" then, or at least give me an idea of how far Cuba is from it. They can't be that far away though, but i'm sure that small difference is the reason why most people there live in misery rather than utopia.
That communism in the USSR sure worked out well though, didn't it? They should be ashamed of themselves losing the cold war to those capitalist pig Americans.
Browse By Author: E - Project Gutenberg
The CCCP was far from communism. Marx said himself that Russia was nowhere near the condition necessary for a communist society to emerge. He was right.
Such a society can not be forced into existence.
True communism is more democratic than our own government for one. IMO opinion communism was a way to combat the problems from over population, and only having a certain amount of resources.
This President due to a pretty inflated ego and Marxist leanings continues to try and micromanage our economy and has failed miserably. His State of the Union speech last night only confirmed that he plans on continuing to micromanage and destroy our economy further. I mean how much more Government intervention and Legislation can him and the Democrats offer up? Can't they see that they have failed miserably?
They seem to have completely lost it at his point. One day they're giving Billions in Tax Dollars to the corrupt corporate creeps and then the next day they're claiming to hate those same corrupt corporate creeps. They just can't seem to make up their minds. This is what too much Government intervention ultimately leads to. More Government micromanaging of the economy is exactly what we don't need. Haven't they done enough damage? This President needs to shove his giant ego and Marxist leanings aside and do what's right for the country. He can't continue on this incredibly destructive path he is on. I really do hope him and the Democrats figure this out before it's too late.
Its the reason why all socialist states become dictatorships that try to impose their vision of utopia onto the natural society.
Again, what socialist states are you talking about??? There are none! Most all states are mixed economies. Why do you continue with this rediculous black & white crap? It isn't even a little relevant?
What are you saying, you're an anarchist? I don't think you're smart enough to be an anarchist... You seem to cling to righty propaganda pretty tightly.
bsthe eu thinks obama is too socialist for them.................
Its the reason why all socialist states become dictatorships that try to impose their vision of utopia onto the natural society.
Again, what socialist states are you talking about??? There are none! Most all states are mixed economies. Why do you continue with this rediculous black & white crap? It isn't even a little relevant?
What are you saying, you're an anarchist? I don't think you're smart enough to be an anarchist... You seem to cling to righty propaganda pretty tightly.
USSR, National Socialism, fascist italy, etc, etc, etc and etc. These are the WORST examples of people who think they stumbled upon utopia and seek to impose it on everyone. These are the worst examples but milder forms such as social democratist seek to do the same thing. Its the reason why liberals decry the rich getting richer today because it is 'not the right thing to do'.
It may not be right for someone to be super-rich but is that the purpose of our government? To ensure that we do not deviate from what some people consider moral perfection. I believe the declaration of independence states that government are created for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happinesss not fairness, equality, and the creation of perfect people.
The EU thinks Obama is too socialist for them.................
Economists Say Stimulus Package Rescued Economy from Free Fall -- Politics Daily
The stimulus worked you fucking fool
Socialism is working quite well in the European Union.
☭proletarian☭;1953431 said:Marx and Engels Internet ArchiveDefine "true communism" then, or at least give me an idea of how far Cuba is from it. They can't be that far away though, but i'm sure that small difference is the reason why most people there live in misery rather than utopia.
That communism in the USSR sure worked out well though, didn't it? They should be ashamed of themselves losing the cold war to those capitalist pig Americans.
Browse By Author: E - Project Gutenberg
The CCCP was far from communism. Marx said himself that Russia was nowhere near the condition necessary for a communist society to emerge. He was right.
Such a society can not be forced into existence.
True communism is more democratic than our own government for one. IMO opinion communism was a way to combat the problems from over population, and only having a certain amount of resources.
Communism's Theoretical Failures: Communism strives for the complete equality of all incomes, and therefore, everything. As income approaches complete equality, productivity disappears. For example: people work so they can make money to support themselves. They work driven by the incentive of making more money and succeeding. In capitalist systems, he who chooses not to work suffers the consequences while he who works receives the incentives, money, which he is working for.
Human nature includes a desire to "do better" and, therefore, make more money or advance in a job. In an attempt to make more money, people are driven naturally work harder and longer, seek further education for themselves, and develop skills which distinguish them as rare talents among that labor which is available as supply. Under true communism, income is completely equal.
When there is nothing to achieve by working harder or longer, people begin to become idle. People begin to work less or not work at all because there is no longer the incentive of making more money or advancing in job. When there are no workers, production drops to nothing. It will then be true that all incomes are equal but this equal income will be zero.
Free will cannot be suppressed: Communism attempts the impossible: to control human individualism by making a society of inherently individual people uniform. Thought is free and independent and, no matter how hard anyone tries, can never be fully controlled.
Communism and socialism depend upon ideological compliance with their theories, yet human nature prompts inevitable dissention from such theories. As a result, communism and socialism may achieve full compliance only through coercion, which in turn translates into communism and socialism's great failure.
This failure led to the disastrous massacres of communism which were often attempts to combat opinions different from the communist governments. Try as it may, socialism and communism has never been able to destroy dissenting free thought and form a universal thought: one accepting of the communist/socialist theory necessary for such a theory to be implemented and succeed. It is simply human nature to ask questions and to look for the new and the alternative.
Every attempt at Communism has either failed or is failing:
Failed Communist and Socialist Societies: Went down with the Berlin Wall, failed due to overthrow by other forces, abandoned by inhabitants.
-Brook Farm and other Utopian Communities
-Soviet Union
-Eastern Bloc
-Yugoslavia
-Sandinista's Nicaragua
-Cambodia
Failing Communist and Socialist Societies: Forced to abandon their theories for moderation, pushed to the brink of failure.
-Cuba: all but abandoned socialism due to poverty, has become a dictatorship
-China: seeking capitalist-like reform with an expanded free trade ever since Mao's failures
-North Korea: on the brink of starvation due to disastrous failure.
Economists Say Stimulus Package Rescued Economy from Free Fall -- Politics Daily
The stimulus worked you fucking fool
Mhmm. That's why Un-employment is still in the Gutter and apparently the Economy is still in the shit hole, but then again Your so full of yourself you actually believe these sites.
Socialism is working quite well in the European Union.
Right..
That's why my Home Country (Spain) is doing sooo well with our Socialist President..
Save it buster, we've heard that shit before.
