Can Texas be put in play?

[Inthemiddle]

Resistence to a path for citizenship is one that comes quickly to mind.

Funny, I thought that was more to do with non-Americans who break our laws, regardless of ethnicity.

 

[nodoginnafight]

MHO
If Republicans want to know WHY they took such a butt kicking among Latino voters, I humbly suggest that they ask Latino voters. And then... LISTEN.

I think one major problem that the GOP is facing is their unwillingness to listen to huge segments of the U.S. population. They don't talk WITH these people, they tend to talk AT them. Big difference.

I don't know if Democrats are doing a significantly better job at this right now, it could be just a quirk that their positions fall into better alignment with mainstream America right now. But you aren't going to win people to your position and keep them supporting you by insulting them with that 47% nonsense, filibustering equal pay for women initiatives, "real" rape, DOMA, self deport, etc ...

You don't just alienate the specific demographic groups who find your rhetoric offensive, you alienate ALL people who support them.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Resistence to a path for citizenship is one that comes quickly to mind.

Funny, I thought that was more to do with non-Americans who break our laws, regardless of ethnicity.

Then you need to talk less, and listen more. Maybe you can learn from people WHY they support path-to-citizenship initiatives.

 

[auditor0007]

I think Texas will be a tossup state soon. But I also think Georgia is creeping that way.

I thought the same thing, because a successful southern state is a different thing. If the economy improves and we start taking back some of those outsourced jobs, you can add North Carolina to the list, too. It's also possible for a Democrat to win a national election in Louisiana.

I think the key for Democrats cracking the South is a Southern Strategy, because many state politicans in the Deep South are still Democrats. If the Democratic Party could broaden it's tent to include conservatives, it could break the strangle hold on national elections that the Republicans presently enjoy. At least a conservative Democrat isn't going to act like these monkeys.

As for Texas, they need to get everybody registered and it may not be ready for the next Presidential election, but it will happen soon enough. If the Republicans keep opposing Imigration Reform, then they've made their bed.

The best time to prepare for an election is after an election.

I think North Carolina is already on that list. Heath Shular, who served three terms as a representative, is a pretty good model for a blue dog democrat who can win in the south.

And Romney's win in N.C. in 2012 was a whole lot closer than I thought it would be.

Moderate Republicans are leaving the Republican Party in droves. They will move the Democratic Party even further to the center. Most of these types don't really have any agendas when it comes to social issues, so that won't be a big part of what drives them.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Liberals here jacking off at the thought of taking over Texas are too stupid to realize socialism always fails in the end.

Prime example of what is driving moderates out of the GOP.
They need to fix that.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Resistence to a path for citizenship is one that comes quickly to mind.

Funny, I thought that was more to do with non-Americans who break our laws, regardless of ethnicity.

Then you need to talk less, and listen more. Maybe you can learn from people WHY they support path-to-citizenship initiatives.

You're moving the goalpost. You've gone from "it's an anti-Latino policy" to "You should learn why people support a different policy."

 

[GoneBezerk]

You are not moderate, you're a scumbag liberal making up lies.

You scum believe making 11 million low skilled/low educated hispanics "Americans" is going to cure our economic woes and national debt is either stupidity, insanity or pure evil because you know it won't work.

You scum can keep making promises to hispanics and blacks that the gravy train won't stop, but when it stops because China pulls the plug on giving us money....your minority "buds" are going to kill you. in the riots.

Liberals here jacking off at the thought of taking over Texas are too stupid to realize socialism always fails in the end.

Prime example of what is driving moderates out of the GOP.
They need to fix that.

 

[cereal_killer]

Democrats Launch Plan to Make Texas a Swing State

National Democrats "are taking steps to create a large-scale independent group aimed at turning traditionally conservative Texas into a prime electoral battleground, crafting a new initiative to identify and mobilize progressive voters in the rapidly-changing state," Politico reports.

"The organization, dubbed 'Battleground Texas,' plans to engage the state's rapidly growing Latino population, as well as African-American voters and other Democratic-leaning constituencies that have been underrepresented at the ballot box in recent cycles.

Instead of worrying about what states might become "purple" or "blue" states, you liberals should be much more worried about which states are going to decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, secede from the United States, and take this country back, by force.

Texas will NEVER be a leftist state. "Don't mess with Texas" is not just a cute phrase. It's a way of life, and a battle cry.

Agree, a lot of people are getting fed up with both parties and see them as essentially one and the same. GOP is already imploding, it's just a matter of time before the Dems meet the same fate. The veil is slowly being lifted and it's just a matter of time.

Question is not whether it will happen, the question is WHEN will it happen.

 

[bodecea]

Democrats Launch Plan to Make Texas a Swing State

National Democrats "are taking steps to create a large-scale independent group aimed at turning traditionally conservative Texas into a prime electoral battleground, crafting a new initiative to identify and mobilize progressive voters in the rapidly-changing state," Politico reports.

"The organization, dubbed 'Battleground Texas,' plans to engage the state's rapidly growing Latino population, as well as African-American voters and other Democratic-leaning constituencies that have been underrepresented at the ballot box in recent cycles.

Instead of worrying about what states might become "purple" or "blue" states, you liberals should be much more worried about which states are going to decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, secede from the United States, and take this country back, by force.

Texas will NEVER be a leftist state. "Don't mess with Texas" is not just a cute phrase. It's a way of life, and a battle cry.

^ Evidence that Secesh like you are not very bright. If you secede from the United States, you've left....which means you no longer have any say as to what goes on here.

But, I agree with you to a certain extent. Texas should leave the Union.....now. Goodbye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[bodecea]

"Don't mess with Texas" is not just a cute phrase. It's a way of life, and a battle cry.

Actually, it's an anti-littering slogan.

Yep.....now I remember. Tooooooo funny!

 

[nodoginnafight]

... secede from the United States, and take this country back, by force.

Too funny

 

[bodecea]

You are not moderate, you're a scumbag liberal making up lies.

You scum believe making 11 million low skilled/low educated hispanics "Americans" is going to cure our economic woes and national debt is either stupidity, insanity or pure evil because you know it won't work.

You scum can keep making promises to hispanics and blacks that the gravy train won't stop, but when it stops because China pulls the plug on giving us money....your minority "buds" are going to kill you. in the riots.

Liberals here jacking off at the thought of taking over Texas are too stupid to realize socialism always fails in the end.

Prime example of what is driving moderates out of the GOP.
They need to fix that.

^Needs a job as RNC National Spokesperson.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Funny, I thought that was more to do with non-Americans who break our laws, regardless of ethnicity.

Then you need to talk less, and listen more. Maybe you can learn from people WHY they support path-to-citizenship initiatives.

You're moving the goalpost. You've gone from "it's an anti-Latino policy" to "You should learn why people support a different policy."

Fair enough - I cannot speak for Latino voters. If you want to know WHY they don't support the GOP, you have to ask them. I made some speculations on what I think, but since I am not Latino, you are 100% correct. I cannot speak with any authority on why they vote the way they do. I have my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to that (just as you are to yours). But I apologize for any confusion that may have resulted from me stating my opinion without more clearly labeling it as an observer's opinion and not a participant's opinion.

 

[Dubya]

Democrats Launch Plan to Make Texas a Swing State

National Democrats "are taking steps to create a large-scale independent group aimed at turning traditionally conservative Texas into a prime electoral battleground, crafting a new initiative to identify and mobilize progressive voters in the rapidly-changing state," Politico reports.

"The organization, dubbed 'Battleground Texas,' plans to engage the state's rapidly growing Latino population, as well as African-American voters and other Democratic-leaning constituencies that have been underrepresented at the ballot box in recent cycles.

Instead of worrying about what states might become "purple" or "blue" states, you liberals should be much more worried about which states are going to decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, secede from the United States, and take this country back, by force.

Texas will NEVER be a leftist state. "Don't mess with Texas" is not just a cute phrase. It's a way of life, and a battle cry.

I see a few choices for people who think like you. You can stay here and continue to be the pain in the ass you are or you can leave. I think the other option that nuts like you like to talk about will get you killed or imprisoned, if you try it. We aren't going to allow you to take a square inch of this country away from us. It's the United States of America, so love it or leave it!

 

[rightwinger]

Overcoming the strong conservative core in Texas will not happen overnight, There are several factors in play that will steadily move Texas towards the center

1. Increasing Hispanic population
2. Eventual path to citizenship for illegals and their offspring
3. Rising technology centers drawing a workforce from other states
4. Population shift from the rural to urban centers

The initial impact will be greater Democratic influence at the local level followed by more Democratic Congressmen. There will be more Hispanics elected to key political posts. There will be more influence from the city centers of Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio

Within 10-15 years Texas could be a firm battleground state

 

[konradv]

There are millions of illegals in Texas and you keep talking about getting the "expanding" hispanic vote which is a lot of the illegals.

Only an asswipe like you would deny Democraps won't put Jose Manuel the illegal on some voter rolls to flood the system hoping he can slip by for votes.

I'm sure Democraps are registering Mexicans that live in Texas for the next election....and they are making sure every black living in the ghetto is registered too, even if they have felonies.

No wonder the Republican Party is expanding, their public relations is just so AWESOME!!!

You're missing the point again. This is about how you're treating Latinos. As "values" voters maybe they go Republican, but this kind of degradation of them just drives them into the Dem camp. Thank you for your efforts.

 

[konradv]

Democrats Launch Plan to Make Texas a Swing State

National Democrats "are taking steps to create a large-scale independent group aimed at turning traditionally conservative Texas into a prime electoral battleground, crafting a new initiative to identify and mobilize progressive voters in the rapidly-changing state," Politico reports.

"The organization, dubbed 'Battleground Texas,' plans to engage the state's rapidly growing Latino population, as well as African-American voters and other Democratic-leaning constituencies that have been underrepresented at the ballot box in recent cycles.

Instead of worrying about what states might become "purple" or "blue" states, you liberals should be much more worried about which states are going to decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, secede from the United States, and take this country back, by force.

Texas will NEVER be a leftist state. "Don't mess with Texas" is not just a cute phrase. It's a way of life, and a battle cry.

You're so precious with this "don't mess with Texas" stuff. Texas is the people and if it shifts more Latino, what you're posting is no more than insane blubbering. No one's going to be seceding and to keep bringing it up, just makes you a marginalized weirdo.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Overcoming the strong conservative core in Texas will not happen overnight, There are several factors in play that will steadily move Texas towards the center

1. Increasing Hispanic population
2. Eventual path to citizenship for illegals and their offspring
3. Rising technology centers drawing a workforce from other states
4. Population shift from the rural to urban centers

The initial impact will be greater Democratic influence at the local level followed by more Democratic Congressmen. There will be more Hispanics elected to key political posts. There will be more influence from the city centers of Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio

Within 10-15 years Texas could be a firm battleground state

Good points all - I would just add the age gap. Younger voters have come out big for Obama in the last two elections. You have to wonder if they are becoming entrenched into the Democratic Party or were they just entrenched for Obama? If they vote for a Democrat one more time, they are (statistically speaking) VERY hard for Republicans to win back.

Most younger voters are more socially progressive than the GOP platform, so I think Republicans are flirting with losing a lot of voters for good.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Fair enough - I cannot speak for Latino voters. If you want to know WHY they don't support the GOP, you have to ask them. I made some speculations on what I think, but since I am not Latino, you are 100% correct. I cannot speak with any authority on why they vote the way they do. I have my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to that (just as you are to yours). But I apologize for any confusion that may have resulted from me stating my opinion without more clearly labeling it as an observer's opinion and not a participant's opinion.

It's not about being Latino. Regardless of why Latinos are against such and such GOP policy is a completely different issue from whether the policy is anti-Latino. Being "anti-Latino" would mean that the policy is specifically in opposition to Latinos.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Fair enough - I cannot speak for Latino voters. If you want to know WHY they don't support the GOP, you have to ask them. I made some speculations on what I think, but since I am not Latino, you are 100% correct. I cannot speak with any authority on why they vote the way they do. I have my opinion and I'm certainly entitled to that (just as you are to yours). But I apologize for any confusion that may have resulted from me stating my opinion without more clearly labeling it as an observer's opinion and not a participant's opinion.

It's not about being Latino. Regardless of why Latinos are against such and such GOP policy is a completely different issue from whether the policy is anti-Latino. Being "anti-Latino" would mean that the policy is specifically in opposition to Latinos.

My personal definition would be that anything a segment of voters feels is not in their best interest is "anti-(fill in the blank)." Are you arguing that an initiative has to reach a higher threshold of deteriment to be really "anti- (fill in the blank)"?

What does it really matter? If it ticks off a segment enough for them not to vote for you, isn't that the only threshold that really matters? Why obsess over what label is attached when the net result is the same regardless of label?

Tell you what, you attach whatever label you want with one exception. You cannot put a Republican label on the president.

Does that feel better?