Can any republican tell me why any intelligent person should be republican?

[francoHFW]

OBSTRUCTED since 2/4/2010....

 

[francoHFW]

But at least no corrupt Pub bubble again...

 

[Silhouette]

Can any republican tell me why any intelligent person should be republican?

Speaking as a middle type voter, one reason I would be very pursuaded to vote republican in some cases would be to retain the rights of my state to determine who may marry there a la the Finding in Windsor last Summer.

 

[Amelia]

I don't mean conservative. I mean republican specifically. Why should anyone vote republicans in our government?

What good have republicans of today done for this country? What are their accomplishments?

I want real answers. Don't say crap like "because they are better than democrats". That's a lame answer as always. I don't care what you think of democrats or liberals in general. Let's just pretend for a moment liberals don't exist.

Here are some specific questions:

1) What have republicans of today done for the middle class?

2) If tax cuts are so effective as you claim, why is it that 2x as many private jobs have been created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8?

3) Corporate profits are at an all time high. Why are tax cuts for the investment class and deregulation necessary? What other republican policies are there that create jobs?

4) How is it the Republican Party not "the party of no"?

What has Obama done which created jobs? Supposedly Republicans have blocked his agenda. So jobs have been created in spite of him not being able to do what he wants to do.

And for me, that encapsulates why I am a Republican. I think people do what they're going to do in spite of government. And Democrats want to interfere too much. I'm glad Democrats exist -- they give government heart -- but I am glad to be part of the party which steps on the brakes so Democrats can't go to the extremes they would go to if unfettered.

"No" is a good word. Boundaries need to be set.

 

[whitehall]

Can any democrat explain the bi-polar opinion of corporate America? When the DOW spikes up the low information left wing drones love the idea of more corporate wealth but when left wing propaganda moguls like Media Matters demand that low information lefties express hatred for corporations they do so without duh complaint. Energy is the most important issue in the modern human race but democrats have been conditioned to hate fossil fuel even though it is the basis of wealth in the world. How could anyone vote democrat? It easy if you were educated by union teachers and you didn't learn to read until you were in your 20's like most of the democrat voters.

 

[francoHFW]

Twist the numbers anyway you like, there are less jobs today than 2008.....

Simple facts, the left hates them........

BS, Health Myth's numbers have been disproven as idiotc propaganda. We've had more jobs since 2013, many more now- despite total Pub obstruction and bs fear mongering- a disgrace.

Obama now can call himself job creator: 386,000 more jobs now than 2008 | theGrio

 

[Billy000]

I don't mean conservative. I mean republican specifically. Why should anyone vote republicans in our government?

What good have republicans of today done for this country? What are their accomplishments?

I want real answers. Don't say crap like "because they are better than democrats". That's a lame answer as always. I don't care what you think of democrats or liberals in general. Let's just pretend for a moment liberals don't exist.

Here are some specific questions:

1) What have republicans of today done for the middle class?

2) If tax cuts are so effective as you claim, why is it that 2x as many private jobs have been created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8?

3) Corporate profits are at an all time high. Why are tax cuts for the investment class and deregulation necessary? What other republican policies are there that create jobs?

4) How is it the Republican Party not "the party of no"?

What has Obama done which created jobs? Supposedly Republicans have blocked his agenda. So jobs have been created in spite of him not being able to do what he wants to do.

And for me, that encapsulates why I am a Republican. I think people do what they're going to do in spite of government. And Democrats want to interfere too much. I'm glad Democrats exist -- they give government heart -- but I am glad to be part of the party which steps on the brakes so Democrats can't go to the extremes they would go to if unfettered.

"No" is a good word. Boundaries need to be set.

CBO: Stimulus Supports 2.9 Million Jobs Today | FDL News Desk

 

[SFC Ollie]

I don't mean conservative. I mean republican specifically. Why should anyone vote republicans in our government?

What good have republicans of today done for this country? What are their accomplishments?

I want real answers. Don't say crap like "because they are better than democrats". That's a lame answer as always. I don't care what you think of democrats or liberals in general. Let's just pretend for a moment liberals don't exist.

Here are some specific questions:

1) What have republicans of today done for the middle class?

2) If tax cuts are so effective as you claim, why is it that 2x as many private jobs have been created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8?

3) Corporate profits are at an all time high. Why are tax cuts for the investment class and deregulation necessary? What other republican policies are there that create jobs?

4) How is it the Republican Party not "the party of no"?

What has Obama done which created jobs? Supposedly Republicans have blocked his agenda. So jobs have been created in spite of him not being able to do what he wants to do.

And for me, that encapsulates why I am a Republican. I think people do what they're going to do in spite of government. And Democrats want to interfere too much. I'm glad Democrats exist -- they give government heart -- but I am glad to be part of the party which steps on the brakes so Democrats can't go to the extremes they would go to if unfettered.

"No" is a good word. Boundaries need to be set.

CBO: Stimulus Supports 2.9 Million Jobs Today | FDL News Desk

What happens when the stimulus runs out?

 

[francoHFW]

Can any democrat explain the bi-polar opinion of corporate America? When the DOW spikes up the low information left wing drones love the idea of more corporate wealth but when left wing propaganda moguls like Media Matters demand that low information lefties express hatred for corporations they do so without duh complaint. Energy is the most important issue in the modern human race but democrats have been conditioned to hate fossil fuel even though it is the basis of wealth in the world. How could anyone vote democrat? It easy if you were educated by union teachers and you didn't learn to read until you were in your 20's like most of the democrat voters.

BS- we're just against greedy, polluting, screw the worker Pub corporations and idiot billionnaires, who've brainwashed you Pub dupes...you inhabit an alternate universe at this point, Fox/Rush/Beckbots...see sig.-change the channel.

 

[Amelia]

I don't mean conservative. I mean republican specifically. Why should anyone vote republicans in our government?

What good have republicans of today done for this country? What are their accomplishments?

I want real answers. Don't say crap like "because they are better than democrats". That's a lame answer as always. I don't care what you think of democrats or liberals in general. Let's just pretend for a moment liberals don't exist.

Here are some specific questions:

1) What have republicans of today done for the middle class?

2) If tax cuts are so effective as you claim, why is it that 2x as many private jobs have been created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8?

3) Corporate profits are at an all time high. Why are tax cuts for the investment class and deregulation necessary? What other republican policies are there that create jobs?

4) How is it the Republican Party not "the party of no"?

What has Obama done which created jobs? Supposedly Republicans have blocked his agenda. So jobs have been created in spite of him not being able to do what he wants to do.

And for me, that encapsulates why I am a Republican. I think people do what they're going to do in spite of government. And Democrats want to interfere too much. I'm glad Democrats exist -- they give government heart -- but I am glad to be part of the party which steps on the brakes so Democrats can't go to the extremes they would go to if unfettered.

"No" is a good word. Boundaries need to be set.

CBO: Stimulus Supports 2.9 Million Jobs Today | FDL News Desk

So? And a Republican wouldn't have created a stimulus package? McCain wouldn't have? Obama handled the stimulus very poorly. It could have been used much more effectively. He could have done something about those shovel ready jobs which weren't shovel ready if he had actually focused on jobs instead of just giving lip service and saying over and over for a whole year that he got it, he got that we cared more about jobs than about what he was doing, and he'd definitely get around to jobs as soon as he got done with the regulation-heavy healthcare law which he squandered his political capital on. He wasted time and extended the uncertainty and let the stimulus fizzle. He didn't pay attention to his mortgage rescue program. He took his eye off the ball.

People have trudged along and found jobs and created jobs in spite of Obama, not because of him.

 

[francoHFW]

I don't mean conservative. I mean republican specifically. Why should anyone vote republicans in our government?

What good have republicans of today done for this country? What are their accomplishments?

I want real answers. Don't say crap like "because they are better than democrats". That's a lame answer as always. I don't care what you think of democrats or liberals in general. Let's just pretend for a moment liberals don't exist.

Here are some specific questions:

1) What have republicans of today done for the middle class?

2) If tax cuts are so effective as you claim, why is it that 2x as many private jobs have been created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8?

3) Corporate profits are at an all time high. Why are tax cuts for the investment class and deregulation necessary? What other republican policies are there that create jobs?

4) How is it the Republican Party not "the party of no"?

What has Obama done which created jobs? Supposedly Republicans have blocked his agenda. So jobs have been created in spite of him not being able to do what he wants to do.

And for me, that encapsulates why I am a Republican. I think people do what they're going to do in spite of government. And Democrats want to interfere too much. I'm glad Democrats exist -- they give government heart -- but I am glad to be part of the party which steps on the brakes so Democrats can't go to the extremes they would go to if unfettered.

"No" is a good word. Boundaries need to be set.

So you like a tax/poliicy status where the richest at least triple their money while you and the rest slowly go to hell?
We have to tax the richest their fair share and invest in the country and the people...

 

[Amelia]

I don't mean conservative. I mean republican specifically. Why should anyone vote republicans in our government?

What good have republicans of today done for this country? What are their accomplishments?

I want real answers. Don't say crap like "because they are better than democrats". That's a lame answer as always. I don't care what you think of democrats or liberals in general. Let's just pretend for a moment liberals don't exist.

Here are some specific questions:

1) What have republicans of today done for the middle class?

2) If tax cuts are so effective as you claim, why is it that 2x as many private jobs have been created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8?

3) Corporate profits are at an all time high. Why are tax cuts for the investment class and deregulation necessary? What other republican policies are there that create jobs?

4) How is it the Republican Party not "the party of no"?

What has Obama done which created jobs? Supposedly Republicans have blocked his agenda. So jobs have been created in spite of him not being able to do what he wants to do.

And for me, that encapsulates why I am a Republican. I think people do what they're going to do in spite of government. And Democrats want to interfere too much. I'm glad Democrats exist -- they give government heart -- but I am glad to be part of the party which steps on the brakes so Democrats can't go to the extremes they would go to if unfettered.

"No" is a good word. Boundaries need to be set.

So you like a tax/poliicy status where the richest at least triple their money while you and the rest slowly go to hell?
We have to tax the richest their fair share and invest in the country and the people...

Right now the rich are getting richer while the rest of us face stagnation -- right now -- under Obama's watch. Things are not good.

But people are fighting and striving and getting married and having babies and carrying on with their lives in spite of it all.

 

[francoHFW]

Brilliant lol. It's the Reaganist tax rates and policies that kill us, and Pubs obstruct the reform of. End of story.

 

[Billy000]

What has Obama done which created jobs? Supposedly Republicans have blocked his agenda. So jobs have been created in spite of him not being able to do what he wants to do.

And for me, that encapsulates why I am a Republican. I think people do what they're going to do in spite of government. And Democrats want to interfere too much. I'm glad Democrats exist -- they give government heart -- but I am glad to be part of the party which steps on the brakes so Democrats can't go to the extremes they would go to if unfettered.

"No" is a good word. Boundaries need to be set.

CBO: Stimulus Supports 2.9 Million Jobs Today | FDL News Desk

So? And a Republican wouldn't have created a stimulus package? McCain wouldn't have? Obama handled the stimulus very poorly. It could have been used much more effectively. He could have done something about those shovel ready jobs which weren't shovel ready if he had actually focused on jobs instead of just giving lip service and saying over and over for a whole year that he got it, he got that we cared more about jobs than about what he was doing, and he'd definitely get around to jobs as soon as he got done with the regulation-heavy healthcare law which he squandered his political capital on. He wasted time and extended the uncertainty and let the stimulus fizzle. He didn't pay attention to his mortgage rescue program. He took his eye off the ball.

People have trudged along and found jobs and created jobs in spite of Obama, not because of him.

Oh come on. Are you really going to say it isn't a big deal that a single bill created 3 million jobs? That's weak. Before you said Obama was not responsible for any job creation. Now that? What exactly made him handle it poorly? No I don't believe a republican could have done the stimulus. The republican solution is tax cuts. Ones mainly directed at the wealthy. Those have been proven to be poor economic stimulators in today's economy.

 

[francoHFW]

ver the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...able=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--March 6, 2014
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Because liberals are fucking loons.....


Good enough reason? I think it is

 

[GHook93]

First there are different types of republicans. For conservative republican first they are socialist, tax loving, business hating, ashamed to be America Democrats. Second, they don't sell the country out to the illegal aliens. Third, they are for the middle class, since the best social program is a job and there policies lead to a better business environment for jobs- see Texas. Fourth they protect 2nd amendment rights. Fifth they don't sell out to our enemies the Muslims. Sixth they are pro-Israel.



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[francoHFW]

97- Nice alternate universe ya got there lol...Pubs love illegals, refuse a good ID card and distract you with a useless Berlin Wall and unconstitutional harassment laws. They're for the greedy rich and no one else. GREAT con men tho...

 

[Amelia]

CBO: Stimulus Supports 2.9 Million Jobs Today | FDL News Desk

So? And a Republican wouldn't have created a stimulus package? McCain wouldn't have? Obama handled the stimulus very poorly. It could have been used much more effectively. He could have done something about those shovel ready jobs which weren't shovel ready if he had actually focused on jobs instead of just giving lip service and saying over and over for a whole year that he got it, he got that we cared more about jobs than about what he was doing, and he'd definitely get around to jobs as soon as he got done with the regulation-heavy healthcare law which he squandered his political capital on. He wasted time and extended the uncertainty and let the stimulus fizzle. He didn't pay attention to his mortgage rescue program. He took his eye off the ball.

People have trudged along and found jobs and created jobs in spite of Obama, not because of him.

Oh come on. Are you really going to say it isn't a big deal that a single bill created 3 million jobs? That's weak. What exactly made him handle it poorly? No I don't believe a republican could have done the stimulus. The republican solution is tax cuts. Ones mainly directed at the wealthy. Those have been proven to be poor economic stimulators in today's economy.

It did not create 3 million jobs. "Supports 2.9 million jobs" is not "created 2.9 million jobs".

McCain would also have had a stimulus package. He wouldn't have sat around and done nothing while people clamored for action.

What made Obama handle the stimulus poorly was that he didn't make sure that it was going where he said it was going to go. There was poor oversight and faulty implementation. Lip service was paid to infrastructure, but the work wasn't done which was needed to get the money to where it could be put to best use. My governor used the money in an ephemeral way to postpone making meaningful budget decisions. Jobs were supported -- briefly -- and then they evaporated when the stimulus money ran out. Obama giggled about the shovel ready jobs not being shovel ready. It wasn't funny though. He could have had teams out there helping agencies get their proposals ready to go, helping them get through the miles of paperwork which stands in the way of infrastructure projects. He didn't. He just laughed about how empty his words were, while he was creating another costly boondoggle which has become the symbol for government incompetence.

 

[francoHFW]

Your poor old Tea Party, etc etc just lost out to greedy rich Pubs again....Pub dupes.

READ THE SIG pp1!! All fact. and #95...