California/Oregon colleges have "Bias Response Teams" to check your privilege; Enough.

[ClosedCaption]

I checked every box.

Sorry, but in human societies being a member of a dominant social group earns one a right to privilege based upon being a member of a dominant social group.

Dominant being the operative word.

Fair or not, it has always been thus, and always will be. And, since competition is frowned upon in the modern establishment, it is most unlikely the rule will change

I see they include "class". I assume economic class.

So....Obama, Beyonce, Spike Lee, Al Sharpton...all rich upper class.....need to check their damn privilege!!

Its cute when you try so hard to be a victim

Yeah sorry....I forgot....us white Christian males can't be victims.

Aww, you did it again!

 

[ClosedCaption]

Blacks students need to toughen up.
You won't always have safe spaces and special laws once you get out of school.

Oh, wait, yes you will.

Maybe you missed it

Look man, blacks need laws for things they can't achieve on their own. It's just the new 'merica........

Where are those laws? Or are you saying white girls be all over Affirmative Action because they cant achieve?

 

[EverCurious]

I have all the privileges. Go me \o/ I'm also apparently a white male...

 

[turzovka]

People like you hate being reminded of things.

I still say closer to 9/10ths.

 

[Asclepias]

Whatever can't be sustained, won't be sustained. It's a universal truth. Communism can't be sustained. Socialism can't be sustained, therefore they aren't. They fail of their own accord. Civilization of black people can't be sustained. Therefore it won't be sustained and we see the collapse of the last attempt at civilization right now.

It is true that certain black individuals can be civilized, but the culture itself cannot. The vast majority will slide back into barbarism which is what we're seeing right now.

Whites are the only race on the planet that were introduced to civilization and almost regressed back to prehistoric times due to their inability to sustain it. You guys are on your second go round but at least this time you have us Blacks and other races to continue to show you how its done.

 

[EverCurious]

You mean the black plague? That's the only time I can recall that whites as a whole nearly regressed to prehistoric times.

 

[Asclepias]

You mean the black plague? That's the only time I can recall that whites as a whole nearly regressed to prehistoric times.

Yes during those times. Ironic they called it the Black plague and the Dark Ages when it was Blacks that taught them civilization prior to and after that.

 

[EverCurious]

Well the reason they called it the Black Plague is because it literally turned peoples skin black. Modern case; not for the feint of heart: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VJlRU1p0B...FU/ruZzSwhl46w/s1600/BubonicPlague2012(2).jpg So really its no wonder they called it the Black Death yea?

Anyway, I can see African contribution/influence prior to the plague, but after? I can't say as I've found any reference for African influence on the recovery from the plague, enlighten me?

 

[Asclepias]

Well the reason they called it the Black Plague is because it literally turned peoples skin black. Modern case; not for the feint of heart: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VJlRU1p0B...FU/ruZzSwhl46w/s1600/BubonicPlague2012(2).jpg So really its no wonder they called it the Black Death yea?

Anyway, I can see African contribution/influence prior to the plague, but after? I can't say as I've found any reference for African influence on the recovery from the plague, enlighten me?

Thats because its codified. Look up the Moors and specifically the BlackAMoors. Then investigate the effect of Timbuktu in West Africa on europeans.

 

[Blackrook]

I remember all the political demonstrations in college, mostly held by the Commies and their pinko supporters. If you tried to take a photograph of a Commie, he would chase you down, take away your camera, and throw it on the ground and break it. I never tried this, but this was what I was told by people in my conservative club.

 

[EverCurious]

Well the reason they called it the Black Plague is because it literally turned peoples skin black. Modern case; not for the feint of heart: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VJlRU1p0B...FU/ruZzSwhl46w/s1600/BubonicPlague2012(2).jpg So really its no wonder they called it the Black Death yea?

Anyway, I can see African contribution/influence prior to the plague, but after? I can't say as I've found any reference for African influence on the recovery from the plague, enlighten me?

Thats because its codified. Look up the Moors and specifically the BlackAMoors. Then investigate the effect of Timbuktu in West Africa on europeans.

I'm not finding your connection to European recovery, do you have a link? I know that the Moors had established some territory in Italy and Spain by paying tribute with Mali gold, and even that they'd had some influence on "Spanish" architecture, but they were pretty much ousted from Europe long prior to even rumors of the plague in China, Syria, Egypt, and India hitting European ears (in the 1340's); their last stand was in Granada in the first years of 1300 when the Christian France and Portugal rulers decided to deport them by force.

Your reference to Timbuktu is confusing. While it was said to have been a center of religious learning and study from like 600 to the 1300's - born of wealth no doubt lost when the silk/salt/gold/and slave trade routes dried up because of the devastating global effects of the plague - but by the early 1400's Timbuktu had descended into abject poverty (and as I recall in 1500 the city was conquered, final nail in the coffin of the Mali Empire kind of thing.) I'm really not seeing anything from Timbuktu that could have contributed to /anyone's/ recovery from the plague, much less any European recovery.

 

[Asclepias]

Well the reason they called it the Black Plague is because it literally turned peoples skin black. Modern case; not for the feint of heart: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VJlRU1p0B...FU/ruZzSwhl46w/s1600/BubonicPlague2012(2).jpg So really its no wonder they called it the Black Death yea?

Anyway, I can see African contribution/influence prior to the plague, but after? I can't say as I've found any reference for African influence on the recovery from the plague, enlighten me?

Thats because its codified. Look up the Moors and specifically the BlackAMoors. Then investigate the effect of Timbuktu in West Africa on europeans.

I'm not finding your connection to European recovery, do you have a link? I know that the Moors had established some territory in Italy and Spain by paying tribute with Mali gold, and even that they'd had some influence on "Spanish" architecture, but they were pretty much ousted from Europe long prior to even rumors of the plague in China, Syria, Egypt, and India hitting European ears (in the 1340's); their last stand was in Granada in the first years of 1300 when the Christian France and Portugal rulers decided to deport them by force.

Your reference to Timbuktu is confusing. While it was said to have been a center of religious learning and study from like 600 to the 1300's - born of wealth no doubt lost when the silk/salt/gold/and slave trade routes dried up because of the devastating global effects of the plague - but by the early 1400's Timbuktu had descended into abject poverty (and as I recall in 1500 the city was conquered, final nail in the coffin of the Mali Empire kind of thing.) I'm really not seeing anything from Timbuktu that could have contributed to /anyone's/ recovery from the plague, much less any European recovery.

I dont think you looked thoroughly enough. For one thing you cite the year 1300 for the expulsion of the Moors when it was actually the same year (1492) Columbus made his voyage with the help of Black Africans that already knew the way. For another you say the Moors established territory in euorpe by paying tribute instead of invading like all the real history books explain. We know for a fact the Moors were the ones that brought culture consisting of fashion, bathing, architecture, math, science, etc etc to europe. We know the Moors are the people that taught europeans about their own history and the teachings of the Greeks which they promptly claimed as white people. Timbuktu was the center for those teachings. This was not a few years of Moorish control. The Moors ruled europe for 800 years. If you go to parts of europe such as Spain and even germany you see statues of Black Africans that were Moors.

 

[EverCurious]

Look, the blunt of it is that I have zero interest in your racial tripe Asclepias, I am a history buff type and just want to know where you think that African's assisted the European (or really any global "community") in recovering from the black plague, and "brought the [whites] back" from regression into the stone age as you stated, because I haven't seen anything even remotely like that in /any/ history so frankly I think this is a line of "blacks are better than whites" bullshit.


In the early 700's the Moors invaded Europe from North Africa, they gained control on the coast of modern Portugal/Spain, and in the mid 800's took the island of Mazara, Italy where they built a trading port. The conflict between Christians (Europeans) and the Muslims (Moors) over those European lands in Spain/Portugal was indeed ongoing over about 800 years, however, they didn't ever rule Europe in any twist of history, in fact, the farthest the Moors ever made it into Europe was briefly controlling a sliver of the southeast coast of France from like 817-824 IIRC. The Moors were kind of ignored after they established their footholds because the rest of Europe was fighting amongst themselves, and to be blunt, the Europeans didn't see them as a threat and they enjoyed the salt, gold, and slaves coming out of Africa - the settlements the Moors had taken over/built brought those goods to them quicker. In 1224, Christian's expelled the Moor's from Sicily to Lucera, on the southern coast of Italy, and that settlement was sacked in 1300 and it's inhabitants enslaved. The particular spanning war covering the Moor's Spanish/Portuguese land during the plague is called the Reconquista 711 through 1492 [* Depending whom you ask. The history of the region teaches that the Reconquista was from 711-1524, the day Granada fell, because they consider that ousting of so-called "crypto-Muslims" (converted Muslims) to be the end of the long-standing [holy] war - despite Granada's surrender in 1492 - specifically because the Moors were allowed to continue their "pagan" religious practices via the "live and let live" social/religious ideology prevalent in that region until the 1500s dictated full conversion to Christanity.]

So as I said, the Moors were [key word] pretty much [/key word] ousted from Europe - specifically in 1309 the Moors were pushed into their last stand in Granada. Between 1482-1492 the newly united Portugal and France launched a series of summer attacks that wore them down, and in 1492 even Granada, their last hold out, surrendered. If one wants to get technical about it, the Moors were not fully off the European continent until later; in 1501 when, displeased with the slow pace of peaceful conversion to Christianity, the King issued an "ultimatum" that every last Muslim (and Jew) would either convert, exile, or be enslaved - the ultimate hit in Granada in force in the mid 1500s.

I already agreed that there was African influence Prior to the plague; that would be everything (except bathing which you are totally wrong about.) However, the fact remains, that wasn't like the Moors had any major influence over Europeans past, and I am being super generous here, say 1309ish, they'd been, as I'd said, [key word] pretty much [/key word] ousted from Europe prior to even /rumors/ of the plague hitting the middle east/far east arriving in Europe in the 1340s. Do you really think that a repeatedly retreating populace of Moors, who were by and large at quasi-war with European's since they had arrived [due to fundamental cultural and religious differences,] had some kind of influence over any significant stretch of Europe from 1350-1360? this is not reflected I any history source I can find, so again I am asking for a link to this connection.


As far as bathing goes, Europeans didn't want to bath pretty much until the late 1800's because they thought it formed a supposed second barrier against getting sick. Yet you would claim that the Moors taught Europeans how to bathe and thus helped them recover from the plague in 1340-1350? I disagree wholeheartedly.

 

[Asclepias]

Look, the blunt of it is that I have zero interest in your racial tripe Asclepias, I am a history buff type and just want to know where you think that African's assisted the European (or really any global "community") in recovering from the black plague, and "brought the [whites] back" from regression into the stone age as you stated, because I haven't seen anything even remotely like that in /any/ history so frankly I think this is a line of "blacks are better than whites" bullshit.


In the early 700's the Moors invaded Europe from North Africa, they gained control on the coast of modern Portugal/Spain, and in the mid 800's took the island of Mazara, Italy where they built a trading port. The conflict between Christians (Europeans) and the Muslims (Moors) over those European lands in Spain/Portugal was indeed ongoing over about 800 years, however, they didn't ever rule Europe in any twist of history, in fact, the farthest the Moors ever made it into Europe was briefly controlling a sliver of the southeast coast of France from like 817-824 IIRC. The Moors were kind of ignored after they established their footholds because the rest of Europe was fighting amongst themselves, and to be blunt, the Europeans didn't see them as a threat and they enjoyed the salt, gold, and slaves coming out of Africa - the settlements the Moors had taken over/built brought those goods to them quicker. In 1224, Christian's expelled the Moor's from Sicily to Lucera, on the southern coast of Italy, and that settlement was sacked in 1300 and it's inhabitants enslaved. The particular spanning war covering the Moor's Spanish/Portuguese land during the plague is called the Reconquista 711 through 1492 [* Depending whom you ask. The history of the region teaches that the Reconquista was from 711-1524, the day Granada fell, because they consider that ousting of so-called "crypto-Muslims" (converted Muslims) to be the end of the long-standing [holy] war - despite Granada's surrender in 1492 - specifically because the Moors were allowed to continue their "pagan" religious practices via the "live and let live" social/religious ideology prevalent in that region until the 1500s dictated full conversion to Christanity.]

So as I said, the Moors were [key word] pretty much [/key word] ousted from Europe - specifically in 1309 the Moors were pushed into their last stand in Granada. Between 1482-1492 the newly united Portugal and France launched a series of summer attacks that wore them down, and in 1492 even Granada, their last hold out, surrendered. If one wants to get technical about it, the Moors were not fully off the European continent until later; in 1501 when, displeased with the slow pace of peaceful conversion to Christianity, the King issued an "ultimatum" that every last Muslim (and Jew) would either convert, exile, or be enslaved - the ultimate hit in Granada in force in the mid 1500s.

I already agreed that there was African influence Prior to the plague; that would be everything (except bathing which you are totally wrong about.) However, the fact remains, that wasn't like the Moors had any major influence over Europeans past, and I am being super generous here, say 1309ish, they'd been, as I'd said, [key word] pretty much [/key word] ousted from Europe prior to even /rumors/ of the plague hitting the middle east/far east arriving in Europe in the 1340s. Do you really think that a repeatedly retreating populace of Moors, who were by and large at quasi-war with European's since they had arrived [due to fundamental cultural and religious differences,] had some kind of influence over any significant stretch of Europe from 1350-1360? this is not reflected I any history source I can find, so again I am asking for a link to this connection.


As far as bathing goes, Europeans didn't want to bath pretty much until the late 1800's because they thought it formed a supposed second barrier against getting sick. Yet you would claim that the Moors taught Europeans how to bathe and thus helped them recover from the plague in 1340-1350? I disagree wholeheartedly.

Of course you have interest in what I am saying. If you didnt you wouldnt have asked me. Calling it racial tripe is a typical reaction white people have when confronted with things that make them feel uncomfortable about history....real history. I too an a history buff. However, since I have found many inconsistencies and outright lies by the majority of white historians I know to take what they say with a grain of salt and normally I locate the real story. As a history buff as you claim to be you should know the time honored saying that history is written by the victor. I might add that history is always slanted to make the victor look more noble than they are. This isnt about who is better. Its about the facts.

 

[Mac1958]

This is just getting funnier and funnier.
.

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah the fat dykes are traveling the school districts, threatening all the school district employees that if they don't facilitate transgender perversion amongst the very young, then all federal $$ will stop.

Who gives a shit. Stop the fucking federal income.

She also hit the state offices...and the state employees are also being subjected to mandatory "cultural humility" courses. I can only imagine how much fun that is. "Bow down or else!"

 

[EverCurious]

Look, the blunt of it is that I have zero interest in your racial tripe Asclepias, I am a history buff type and just want to know where you think that African's assisted the European (or really any global "community") in recovering from the black plague, and "brought the [whites] back" from regression into the stone age as you stated, because I haven't seen anything even remotely like that in /any/ history so frankly I think this is a line of "blacks are better than whites" bullshit.


In the early 700's the Moors invaded Europe from North Africa, they gained control on the coast of modern Portugal/Spain, and in the mid 800's took the island of Mazara, Italy where they built a trading port. The conflict between Christians (Europeans) and the Muslims (Moors) over those European lands in Spain/Portugal was indeed ongoing over about 800 years, however, they didn't ever rule Europe in any twist of history, in fact, the farthest the Moors ever made it into Europe was briefly controlling a sliver of the southeast coast of France from like 817-824 IIRC. The Moors were kind of ignored after they established their footholds because the rest of Europe was fighting amongst themselves, and to be blunt, the Europeans didn't see them as a threat and they enjoyed the salt, gold, and slaves coming out of Africa - the settlements the Moors had taken over/built brought those goods to them quicker. In 1224, Christian's expelled the Moor's from Sicily to Lucera, on the southern coast of Italy, and that settlement was sacked in 1300 and it's inhabitants enslaved. The particular spanning war covering the Moor's Spanish/Portuguese land during the plague is called the Reconquista 711 through 1492 [* Depending whom you ask. The history of the region teaches that the Reconquista was from 711-1524, the day Granada fell, because they consider that ousting of so-called "crypto-Muslims" (converted Muslims) to be the end of the long-standing [holy] war - despite Granada's surrender in 1492 - specifically because the Moors were allowed to continue their "pagan" religious practices via the "live and let live" social/religious ideology prevalent in that region until the 1500s dictated full conversion to Christanity.]

So as I said, the Moors were [key word] pretty much [/key word] ousted from Europe - specifically in 1309 the Moors were pushed into their last stand in Granada. Between 1482-1492 the newly united Portugal and France launched a series of summer attacks that wore them down, and in 1492 even Granada, their last hold out, surrendered. If one wants to get technical about it, the Moors were not fully off the European continent until later; in 1501 when, displeased with the slow pace of peaceful conversion to Christianity, the King issued an "ultimatum" that every last Muslim (and Jew) would either convert, exile, or be enslaved - the ultimate hit in Granada in force in the mid 1500s.

I already agreed that there was African influence Prior to the plague; that would be everything (except bathing which you are totally wrong about.) However, the fact remains, that wasn't like the Moors had any major influence over Europeans past, and I am being super generous here, say 1309ish, they'd been, as I'd said, [key word] pretty much [/key word] ousted from Europe prior to even /rumors/ of the plague hitting the middle east/far east arriving in Europe in the 1340s. Do you really think that a repeatedly retreating populace of Moors, who were by and large at quasi-war with European's since they had arrived [due to fundamental cultural and religious differences,] had some kind of influence over any significant stretch of Europe from 1350-1360? this is not reflected I any history source I can find, so again I am asking for a link to this connection.


As far as bathing goes, Europeans didn't want to bath pretty much until the late 1800's because they thought it formed a supposed second barrier against getting sick. Yet you would claim that the Moors taught Europeans how to bathe and thus helped them recover from the plague in 1340-1350? I disagree wholeheartedly.

Of course you have interest in what I am saying. If you didnt you wouldnt have asked me. Calling it racial tripe is a typical reaction white people have when confronted with things that make them feel uncomfortable about history....real history. I too an a history buff. However, since I have found many inconsistencies and outright lies by the majority of white historians I know to take what they say with a grain of salt and normally I locate the real story. As a history buff as you claim to be you should know the time honored saying that history is written by the victor. I might add that history is always slanted to make the victor look more noble than they are. This isnt about who is better. Its about the facts.

I notice you choose to play race games instead of simply posting the link that supports your claim here. I suppose I will conclude that you're full of shit. Shame.

 

[Steven_R]

This is just getting funnier and funnier.
.

His vote counts as much as yours.