But Britain has gun control, right? How did we miss this story about gun crime in Britain?

[Rustic]

United Kingdom - 48 Homicides with guns a year
United States - 11,101 gun homicides a year

I can see why you like ancedotes and percentages... the raw numbers suck for you, Dick Tiny.

So this is all about tiny dicks? We'll get to that later. But first -- a message to your tiny brain.. When you chart GUN-RELATED murder rates --- the countries where EVEN THE F-ing cops don't have guns are gonna be lower.
Whether you do that by percentages or per capita or any other normalized number.

BUT --- when you look at just MURDER RATE totals (gun or no gun) -- that's the statistic that really matters doesn't it? The dead don't really care what was used to murder them..

Source ---- UK Daily Mail..

Go ahead.. Add up all those UK parts. You'll find that MURDER RATES in UK are equal to or GREATER than in the USA for MOST of those years. If you find a table of numbers behind those graphs, you'll see I'm right.

Now about this dick - gun connection ---- You tend to believe that folks own weapons as a compensation for dick size. But what you don't take into account is guys like me who own guns and have rather large wangers also have a brain large enough to realize that waving your wanger at an assailant is futile and likely to aggravate the attacker. So the size of your wanger will not be a factor in the outcome. Now -- in your case -- waving a TINY wanger at the assailant COULD BE effective as the attacker might be laughing too hard at you to carry thru with the attack. OR -- just take pity on you..


So the moral of this story is --- bad-ass knives and cricket bats are just as effective in keeping your national murder rate high.. And attacks fended off by huge wangers are negligible..

Wow....well said.......thank you.....

Joe is a bleeding heart, They can't think on their own the socialist state does that for them.

 

[Rustic]

wrong twit...they don't let Mexican citizens have guns....and obama and holder were selling guns to the cartels......and the buy their military weapons from China and Europe and the Mexican military gives the weapons the U.S. sells them to the cartels......twit.

I go and debunked these things again, but what's the point?

Jim Moran says 70 percent of traced firearms in Mexican drug crimes come from U.S.

It's much easier/cheaper for the Mexican gangs to get their guns from South American sources. Dumbass

 

[Rustic]

Of course, guns save lives also. Don't let em take guns away joe, you'll need them as tens of thousands more muslims pour into this country, such as happened to europe.

Guy, I'm more worried about a white redneck going on a shooting spree than a scary Muslim...

Mostly, leftys go on "shooting" sprees. Dumbass

 

[Rustic]

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Mexico Shows That Tight Gun Control Laws Don't Guarantee Compliance

when you cite a hack site like Reason, you really are wasting my time.

MEXICO is a third world country. It's not a good comparison.

The Good comparisons are the OTHER G-7 countries - The UK, Canada, Germany, Japan, Italy and France. Those are our peer group in terms of government, technology, legal precedence and economic development.

All of those countries seriously limit who can own a gun.

All of those countries have much lower crime and murder rates than we have.

All of those countries have a FRACTION of our prison population.

so the question is, what are they doing right that we are doing wrong? And I don't limit it to any one answer. Germany as pretty liberal gun laws compared to Japan. But because gun ownership is not considered a right and there is rigorous screening before you can own one of Germany's 17 million privately owned guns, they have almost no mass shooting incidents...

But this batshit insanity where Joker Holmes can walk into a gun store and walk out with a military grade assault rifle and a 100 round magazine is just plain nuts.

Military grade??
Look again dumbass...
Lol

 

[Rustic]

Gun related?? That means nothing, context. dumbass
Lol

 

[JoeB131]

Nope...you no longer get awY with dismissing third world countries......you guys say that gun control keeps gun murder rates down.......these 3rd world countries have absolute gun control and police state police forces.........and they have the highest gun murder rates in the world........and Russia is the same...

America isn't a third world country. Therefore Third World Countries, which lack the law enforcement capabilities of a first world country, aren't good comparison points.

Apples and oranges, Dick Tiny.

 

[Rustic]

Nope...you no longer get awY with dismissing third world countries......you guys say that gun control keeps gun murder rates down.......these 3rd world countries have absolute gun control and police state police forces.........and they have the highest gun murder rates in the world........and Russia is the same...

America isn't a third world country. Therefore Third World Countries, which lack the law enforcement capabilities of a first world country, aren't good comparison points.

Apples and oranges, Dick Tiny.

You seem to have dick on the brain...
Meaning you don't have one and want one?? Or are you just inadequate??
Never mind, most of us don't give a shit.
Lol

 

[JoeB131]

You seem to have dick on the brain...
Meaning you don't have one and want one?? Or are you just inadequate??
Never mind, most of us don't give a shit.
Lol

Everyone has you on ignore, so it's obvious no one gives a shit about you.

 

[2aguy]

Nope...you no longer get awY with dismissing third world countries......you guys say that gun control keeps gun murder rates down.......these 3rd world countries have absolute gun control and police state police forces.........and they have the highest gun murder rates in the world........and Russia is the same...

America isn't a third world country. Therefore Third World Countries, which lack the law enforcement capabilities of a first world country, aren't good comparison points.

Apples and oranges, Dick Tiny.

Nope.....the 3rd world are poor....guns cost money.......and those 3rd world countries have police forces that don't have miranda, or any other restraint on their behavior....the days of you guys ignoring 3rd world murder rates created by gun control are over.....

 

[JoeB131]

Nope.....the 3rd world are poor....guns cost money.......and those 3rd world countries have police forces that don't have miranda, or any other restraint on their behavior....the days of you guys ignoring 3rd world murder rates created by gun control are over.....

That has to be the most bizarre ass reasoning I've heard in my life. So third world gun control proves gun control doesn't work when you don't have functioning government. BRILLIANT!!!

I can get that. WHen you have functioning government in an advanced democracy that doesn't let the gun industry write the laws, you have low crime rates and no murders. So you want to compare us to countries with NO LAW and NO DEMOCRACY. That's awesome, dude.

 

[2aguy]

Nope.....the 3rd world are poor....guns cost money.......and those 3rd world countries have police forces that don't have miranda, or any other restraint on their behavior....the days of you guys ignoring 3rd world murder rates created by gun control are over.....

That has to be the most bizarre ass reasoning I've heard in my life. So third world gun control proves gun control doesn't work when you don't have functioning government. BRILLIANT!!!

I can get that. WHen you have functioning government in an advanced democracy that doesn't let the gun industry write the laws, you have low crime rates and no murders. So you want to compare us to countries with NO LAW and NO DEMOCRACY. That's awesome, dude.

Mexico has a functioning government...as do many of the South American and Central American countries...what they have is absolute gun control for normal people....and massive murder totals against those disarmed people...

If gun control works to lower the crime rate then these countries would prove your point.........since their gun murder rates are so high......and yet their gun control rates are the highest out there.....normal people cannot own guns in these countries...and they are murdered by gun wielding thugs.......

Mexico has no law.....no democracy? Really?

We are not talking Libya.....the wonder created by hilary.........

 

[2aguy]

Nope.....the 3rd world are poor....guns cost money.......and those 3rd world countries have police forces that don't have miranda, or any other restraint on their behavior....the days of you guys ignoring 3rd world murder rates created by gun control are over.....

That has to be the most bizarre ass reasoning I've heard in my life. So third world gun control proves gun control doesn't work when you don't have functioning government. BRILLIANT!!!

I can get that. WHen you have functioning government in an advanced democracy that doesn't let the gun industry write the laws, you have low crime rates and no murders. So you want to compare us to countries with NO LAW and NO DEMOCRACY. That's awesome, dude.

Yeah....not seeing many of the latin countries on the 3rd World lists.........especially Mexico...

Yes...please point to Mexico on any of these lists.......or the other Latin American Countries.....thanks....

Countries of the Third World - Nations Online Project

 

[JoeB131]

Mexico has a functioning government...as do many of the South American and Central American countries...what they have is absolute gun control for normal people....and massive murder totals against those disarmed people...

The fact they can't get the drug gangs on their border under control would indicate otherwise.

But i totally get that, guy. you can't win the argumetn about the UK if someone points out they had a whopping 48 gun murders to our 11,000....

"But we only had 8,000 gun murders a year according to one source. And they was mostly darkies, so that's better somehow.

 

[2aguy]

Nope.....the 3rd world are poor....guns cost money.......and those 3rd world countries have police forces that don't have miranda, or any other restraint on their behavior....the days of you guys ignoring 3rd world murder rates created by gun control are over.....

That has to be the most bizarre ass reasoning I've heard in my life. So third world gun control proves gun control doesn't work when you don't have functioning government. BRILLIANT!!!

I can get that. WHen you have functioning government in an advanced democracy that doesn't let the gun industry write the laws, you have low crime rates and no murders. So you want to compare us to countries with NO LAW and NO DEMOCRACY. That's awesome, dude.

So....explain the gun murders in Mexico please.......they have strict gun control....and blah blah they have gun rights on paper only...the reality is they do not allow normal people to have guns....they reserve that Right to the drug cartels and their government allies........

How else could they butcher so many Mexican citizens...?

 

[2aguy]

Mexico has a functioning government...as do many of the South American and Central American countries...what they have is absolute gun control for normal people....and massive murder totals against those disarmed people...

The fact they can't get the drug gangs on their border under control would indicate otherwise.

But i totally get that, guy. you can't win the argumetn about the UK if someone points out they had a whopping 48 gun murders to our 11,000....

"But we only had 8,000 gun murders a year according to one source. And they was mostly darkies, so that's better somehow.

Nope......you ignore my argument....my point has always been they confiscated guns in Britain, they also have extreme gun control in Britain....and their criminals get guns easily.....and they prefer fully automatic rifles...

You point to the low gun murder rate, and I point out their criminals just don't kill as often as our criminals do.......even without guns and even with guns.....

you try to protect the failure of gun control by pretending that their low gun murder rate is because of their gun control laws...and you are wrong...it is the culture of their criminal sub culture that keeps their gun murder low....

And right now they are now arming more British police with guns......and the gun crime rate is up 4%.....

As I always point out and you try to hide.........their gun crime rate is where ours was in the late 1950s and early 1960s.....and with all of their gun control...they are about to see a massive increase in gun crime...as their social welfare system has finally destroyed the civilizing aspects of British culture on their youth...and now generations of young British teens have been raised by teen mothers without any adult males to teach them to be men.......

 

[JoeB131]

Nope......you ignore my argument....my point has always been they confiscated guns in Britain, they also have extreme gun control in Britain....and their criminals get guns easily.....and they prefer fully automatic rifles...

I ignore your argument because it is STUPID.

UK has 48 gun murders a year.

We have 11,101.

WE h ave a problem. They have a handle on it.

This isn't fucking complicated.

'But they didn't get rid of every possible gun!"

That wasn't the point. The point was to get rid of the guns used to settle that argument over who drank the last can of beer, not to get rid of that gun that is used to determine who controls the drug trade on the east end.

Because when the police aren't wasting their time cleaning up thoe murders, they can put their attention to the important stuff.

In this co untry, we arm police like soldiers because the NRA has dumped so many guns on the street, some of our big cities are more dangerous than Iraq.

 

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Nope.....the 3rd world are poor....guns cost money.......and those 3rd world countries have police forces that don't have miranda, or any other restraint on their behavior....the days of you guys ignoring 3rd world murder rates created by gun control are over.....

That has to be the most bizarre ass reasoning I've heard in my life. So third world gun control proves gun control doesn't work when you don't have functioning government. BRILLIANT!!!

I can get that. WHen you have functioning government in an advanced democracy that doesn't let the gun industry write the laws, you have low crime rates and no murders. So you want to compare us to countries with NO LAW and NO DEMOCRACY. That's awesome, dude.

I'm thinking you really don't know what the word democracy means??

 

[2aguy]

Nope......you ignore my argument....my point has always been they confiscated guns in Britain, they also have extreme gun control in Britain....and their criminals get guns easily.....and they prefer fully automatic rifles...

I ignore your argument because it is STUPID.

UK has 48 gun murders a year.

We have 11,101.

WE h ave a problem. They have a handle on it.

This isn't fucking complicated.

'But they didn't get rid of every possible gun!"

That wasn't the point. The point was to get rid of the guns used to settle that argument over who drank the last can of beer, not to get rid of that gun that is used to determine who controls the drug trade on the east end.

Because when the police aren't wasting their time cleaning up thoe murders, they can put their attention to the important stuff.

In this co untry, we arm police like soldiers because the NRA has dumped so many guns on the street, some of our big cities are more dangerous than Iraq.

No moron...their criminals get guns....when they want or need them.....I have posted the street shootings the drive buys the murders by criminals.......they confiscated guns from the very people who would not use them to commit crime or murder....

Britain had a low gun murder rate before they confiscated their guns twit.....do you fucking understand that?

Britain's gun murder and crime rate spiked the years right after the gun confiscation....after they confiscated the gun....and then it went back to the same level it was before they confiscated the normal people guns.....do you fucking understand that?

They confiscated guns and their gun crime and gun murder rate did not change........it stayed the same making the whole exercise in confiscating guns pointless......since they already had a low gun murder rate....

What actually happened...is now their normal people are victims of a level of violence 2 x the rate of the United States because their criminals have nothing to fear from their victims.......

And their gun crime rate has started to go up......after confiscating their guns...do you fucking understand that?

Their gun control did nothing to reduce their gun violence rate....it stayed the same...and is now going up........and they now have to arm more of their previously unarmed police...and that isn't because they feel like it.....their gun violence rate is going up...not down....

We have 13 million people carrying guns for self defense...and our gun violence and gun murder rate went down....how do you explain that genius?

Of course none of you anti gun loons will answer that one....

 

[Rustic]

Nope......you ignore my argument....my point has always been they confiscated guns in Britain, they also have extreme gun control in Britain....and their criminals get guns easily.....and they prefer fully automatic rifles...

I ignore your argument because it is STUPID.

UK has 48 gun murders a year.

We have 11,101.

WE h ave a problem. They have a handle on it.

This isn't fucking complicated.

'But they didn't get rid of every possible gun!"

That wasn't the point. The point was to get rid of the guns used to settle that argument over who drank the last can of beer, not to get rid of that gun that is used to determine who controls the drug trade on the east end.

Because when the police aren't wasting their time cleaning up thoe murders, they can put their attention to the important stuff.

In this co untry, we arm police like soldiers because the NRA has dumped so many guns on the street, some of our big cities are more dangerous than Iraq.

By your reasoning there is no violence whatsoever in Britain because of their strict gun control?? Seems to me you're delusional.

 

[Rustic]

Nope.....the 3rd world are poor....guns cost money.......and those 3rd world countries have police forces that don't have miranda, or any other restraint on their behavior....the days of you guys ignoring 3rd world murder rates created by gun control are over.....

That has to be the most bizarre ass reasoning I've heard in my life. So third world gun control proves gun control doesn't work when you don't have functioning government. BRILLIANT!!!

I can get that. WHen you have functioning government in an advanced democracy that doesn't let the gun industry write the laws, you have low crime rates and no murders. So you want to compare us to countries with NO LAW and NO DEMOCRACY. That's awesome, dude.

So....explain the gun murders in Mexico please.......they have strict gun control....and blah blah they have gun rights on paper only...the reality is they do not allow normal people to have guns....they reserve that Right to the drug cartels and their government allies........

How else could they butcher so many Mexican citizens...?

Joe doesn't realize that criminals commit crimes, and guns do not make people commit crimes.