Bush didn't just lie........

[Faun]

Imbecile (and that's an insult to imbeciles, not you) ... a lie of omission is also a lie. The administration knew the story was false for almost 2 years but wouldn't tell the public. And get this ... a forum jester like you doesn't have to understand that's a lie for it to be a lie.

No one really expects you to get it. Here boy, have another Snausages <pats the forum jester on the head>

Awe look at the little pussy with the clown face. Need a tissue boy?

Great, now you're just sucking my dick cause it's in your face.

Crybaby ... waah Bush said they wouldn't let them in but they did let them in and EVERYONE FUCKING KNEW THEY LET THEM IN SO WHAT THE FUCK DID BUSH MEAN? NAH ... WE'LL JUST CRY AND CALL HIM A LIAR ... CAUSE WE ARE DEMOCANTFIGUREITOUTONOUROWNDUMBSHIT CLOWNS.

Oh, look ... another unhinged rightard goes apoplectic after having to face the truth.

You're stupid.

Keep sucking.

 

[Camp]

This debate, if it can even be referred to as a debate, always narrows down to a presentation of documents, videos and facts for the Bush lied side, and opinions, talking points and theories with a bolstering of name calling and insults by the Bush defender side. One need only navigate through this thread to confirm that.

 

[Faun]

It's not matter of believing, I showed the proof. I showed when the Bush administration spread that rumor upon the nation, when they learned it wasn't true, and when they finally revealed the truth. You can't deny it so you cry this vacuous nonsense instead rather than just face facts.

What you fail to grasp is that as you keep showing the Republicans to have played fast and loose with the facts, you are indicting the Democrats for the same thing. They were both up to their armpits in it, Sparky.

Here's the fact, Sparky. The real issue is that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq regardless of WMDs. Your diversion to alibi the Democrats obliterates that conversation.

BTW, I said in 2008 I would vote for Obama if I believed he would actually leave Iraq and Afghanistan. My liberal buds were all, well, you have to vote for him then, he will! I said he won't. They said he will.



I called that one...

Do you think I'm surprised to see you still can't understand what I said?

I understand what you "said." Prague does not prove your contention W is evil and Democrats pure as the driven snow and W fooled the Democrats, Republicans, French, Russians, Germans and UN starting six months into his Presidency to believe Saddam had WMDs. It's wait for it ... stupid.

If he did that he's an evil genius. And the Democrats are naive sheep we can't possibly entrust with the Presidency in a dangerous world because if you ask them to hold their wallet for them, they will hand it to you. Are you seriously saying Democrats are that mind numbingly gullible that after 8 years in the Presidency and being on the Senate intelligence committee with their broad access to intelligence, W just came in and duped them? You are saying Democrats ignore everything they know and just blindly believe anything they are told, even when it contradicts what they know?

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

You are rewriting history. The connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda was presented as a threat, not a claim that Al Qaeda was involved in 9/11. Sifting quotes doesn't change that.

This is more of your diversion campaign to alibi the Democrats and white wash their guilt. It's time for Democrats to man up and say they did it, but they were wrong and they learned from that instead of perpetuating the big lie of the Iraq war, the lie that you were lied to

Of course it was a claim that Iraq was involved in 9.11. How fucking retarded do you have to be (rhetorical question) to not understand that establishing a connection between Iraq and 9.11 is showing Iraq was involved?

 

[kaz]

What you fail to grasp is that as you keep showing the Republicans to have played fast and loose with the facts, you are indicting the Democrats for the same thing. They were both up to their armpits in it, Sparky.

Here's the fact, Sparky. The real issue is that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq regardless of WMDs. Your diversion to alibi the Democrats obliterates that conversation.

BTW, I said in 2008 I would vote for Obama if I believed he would actually leave Iraq and Afghanistan. My liberal buds were all, well, you have to vote for him then, he will! I said he won't. They said he will.



I called that one...

Do you think I'm surprised to see you still can't understand what I said?

I understand what you "said." Prague does not prove your contention W is evil and Democrats pure as the driven snow and W fooled the Democrats, Republicans, French, Russians, Germans and UN starting six months into his Presidency to believe Saddam had WMDs. It's wait for it ... stupid.

If he did that he's an evil genius. And the Democrats are naive sheep we can't possibly entrust with the Presidency in a dangerous world because if you ask them to hold their wallet for them, they will hand it to you. Are you seriously saying Democrats are that mind numbingly gullible that after 8 years in the Presidency and being on the Senate intelligence committee with their broad access to intelligence, W just came in and duped them? You are saying Democrats ignore everything they know and just blindly believe anything they are told, even when it contradicts what they know?

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

No they didnt lie at all. Nor did they maintain the connection between Iraq and al Qaeda was the reason for war. Germany et al were busy making money undermining the sanctions. Of course they opposed war.
You are a partisan ignoramus who can't shine Kaz's shoes much less take him on in a debate.

Oh, look ... the forum jester takes himself seriously.

LOL, from the guy who's own avatar admits you are the clown

 

[Faun]

I haven't moved any goal post, you have. Redfish made the claim that both Clinton's made the same "aids and protects al Qaeda" comment that Bush made. I challenged and asked for a link. You posted links in response that deflect away from the challenge and failed to respond to the challenge. We have seen this lame method of deceit multiple times in this thread. You guys post threads with the hope no one will notice it is not what is being claimed. It is a bluff and when you get called on your bluff you attempt to change the subject.

Yes, I made the point you are asking for proof the Redskins won by demanding proof "in the third quarter on third and two they got the first down with a lateral pass and a three yard run for the first down with a block from the tight end when they were up 28-0" and I'm saying WTF difference does that make when the final score was 49-0?

Any critical mind heard the same thing from W, the Democrats, the UN, the Germans, the French and the Russians regarding that Hussein was building WMDs. Arguing some nit gotcha point is irrelevant to that. W was President for six months before 9/11. Clinton was President for eight .... years ... before that. That W somehow came in and conned the world is butt stupid. And if you know anything about the Senate intelligence committee and the wide access they have to intelligence, that a hoax that large could be perpetrated by either party on the other is preposterous.

Both parties were guilty. Here's how the Democrats could have actually distinguished themselves in the aftermath.

- We were wrong. The Republicans and we saw the same evidence and we told you (the country) the same thing. However, we have come to realize what was wrong was our policy. We need to stop fighting wars on behalf of other Arab nations and the Euroweenies while they undercut us and stab us in the back. We need to protect the United States of America. We have learned our lesson and challenge the Republicans to do the same.

That would be worth voting for

Great .... kaz is kazzing again.

Really? The Germans were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

He said that as far as Germany was concerned, there was no evidence of any increased threat from Iraq, and that none of those supporting military action seemed to have thought through the consequences for the Middle East.

Opposition to Iraq attack harming ties US warning to Germany - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

"These are for me weighty arguments that lead me to say: Of course it is important for Germany what resolutions the United Nations adopt, but these arguments — these three — they remain my own, the ones that make me say: Hands off. Especially because, as I said before, the evidence appears to be highly dubious." ~ Gerhard Schroeder

Interview With Gerhard Schroeder​

Really? The French were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

AMANPOUR: Do you believe that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction; for instance, chemical or biological weapons?

PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Well, I don’t know. I have no evidence to support that... It seems that there are no nuclear weapons - no nuclear weapons program. That is something that the inspectors seem to be sure of.​

Really? The Russians were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

"Russia does not have in its possession any trustworthy data that supports the existence of nuclear weapons or any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and we have not received any such information from our partners as yet. This fact has also been supported by the information sent by the CIA to the US Congress." ~ Vladimir Putin 10.10.2002

Putin demands proof over Iraqi weapons UK news The Guardian​

When do you stop lying, liar?

Those don't say exactly what you think they say, and those are governments with constantly shifting positions. If we're going by single quotes, you can probably support they thought aliens were going to invade.

But let's say this was a consistent position from their governments for a second and they mean what you want them to mean instead of what they actually said. So you just nailed Democrats to the cross, yet again. You didn't think that one through, did you Poindexter?

None of those countries wavered on their belief that Iraq was not building WMD. You remain a fruit loop dingus.

More of your lies. Anyone who remembers that era knows that Russia, Germany, France and the UN were not claiming Saddam had no WMDs.

Only children who don't remember it and sheep who remember what they are told to remember think that. Which are you? I don't see no horns, boy

You said those countries believed Iraq was building WMD...

G'head .... prove it...

 

[kaz]

What you fail to grasp is that as you keep showing the Republicans to have played fast and loose with the facts, you are indicting the Democrats for the same thing. They were both up to their armpits in it, Sparky.

Here's the fact, Sparky. The real issue is that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq regardless of WMDs. Your diversion to alibi the Democrats obliterates that conversation.

BTW, I said in 2008 I would vote for Obama if I believed he would actually leave Iraq and Afghanistan. My liberal buds were all, well, you have to vote for him then, he will! I said he won't. They said he will.



I called that one...

Do you think I'm surprised to see you still can't understand what I said?

I understand what you "said." Prague does not prove your contention W is evil and Democrats pure as the driven snow and W fooled the Democrats, Republicans, French, Russians, Germans and UN starting six months into his Presidency to believe Saddam had WMDs. It's wait for it ... stupid.

If he did that he's an evil genius. And the Democrats are naive sheep we can't possibly entrust with the Presidency in a dangerous world because if you ask them to hold their wallet for them, they will hand it to you. Are you seriously saying Democrats are that mind numbingly gullible that after 8 years in the Presidency and being on the Senate intelligence committee with their broad access to intelligence, W just came in and duped them? You are saying Democrats ignore everything they know and just blindly believe anything they are told, even when it contradicts what they know?

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

You are rewriting history. The connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda was presented as a threat, not a claim that Al Qaeda was involved in 9/11. Sifting quotes doesn't change that.

This is more of your diversion campaign to alibi the Democrats and white wash their guilt. It's time for Democrats to man up and say they did it, but they were wrong and they learned from that instead of perpetuating the big lie of the Iraq war, the lie that you were lied to

Of course it was a claim that Iraq was involved in 9.11. How fucking retarded do you have to be (rhetorical question) to not understand that establishing a connection between Iraq and 9.11 is showing Iraq was involved?

Because in the administration narrative, it was an indirect link, not a direct one. They were asserting that Iraq had connections with Al Qaeda, and Al Qaeda did 9/11, so there is threat that Iraq could help them do more 9/11s. You can agree or disagree that was a threat, but it wasn't blaming Iraq for the actual 9/11.

And how fucking retarded do you have to be to not understand that this is more Democrats trying to blame your way out of your own behavior? Time to man up, admit you were wrong, say what you learned from that and moved on.

But I'm partisan, right? When I blame both you and Republicans? You're not partisan when you say it was all them, you are pure and innocent. No siree, it's obviously my position that's driven by politics....

 

[Faun]

God I fucking hate liberals.

Thanks for the affirmation that I'm on the right track. The more pissed off you are, the better job I'm doing.

 

[kaz]

Yes, I made the point you are asking for proof the Redskins won by demanding proof "in the third quarter on third and two they got the first down with a lateral pass and a three yard run for the first down with a block from the tight end when they were up 28-0" and I'm saying WTF difference does that make when the final score was 49-0?

Any critical mind heard the same thing from W, the Democrats, the UN, the Germans, the French and the Russians regarding that Hussein was building WMDs. Arguing some nit gotcha point is irrelevant to that. W was President for six months before 9/11. Clinton was President for eight .... years ... before that. That W somehow came in and conned the world is butt stupid. And if you know anything about the Senate intelligence committee and the wide access they have to intelligence, that a hoax that large could be perpetrated by either party on the other is preposterous.

Both parties were guilty. Here's how the Democrats could have actually distinguished themselves in the aftermath.

- We were wrong. The Republicans and we saw the same evidence and we told you (the country) the same thing. However, we have come to realize what was wrong was our policy. We need to stop fighting wars on behalf of other Arab nations and the Euroweenies while they undercut us and stab us in the back. We need to protect the United States of America. We have learned our lesson and challenge the Republicans to do the same.

That would be worth voting for

Great .... kaz is kazzing again.

Really? The Germans were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

He said that as far as Germany was concerned, there was no evidence of any increased threat from Iraq, and that none of those supporting military action seemed to have thought through the consequences for the Middle East.

Opposition to Iraq attack harming ties US warning to Germany - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

"These are for me weighty arguments that lead me to say: Of course it is important for Germany what resolutions the United Nations adopt, but these arguments — these three — they remain my own, the ones that make me say: Hands off. Especially because, as I said before, the evidence appears to be highly dubious." ~ Gerhard Schroeder

Interview With Gerhard Schroeder​

Really? The French were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

AMANPOUR: Do you believe that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction; for instance, chemical or biological weapons?

PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Well, I don’t know. I have no evidence to support that... It seems that there are no nuclear weapons - no nuclear weapons program. That is something that the inspectors seem to be sure of.​

Really? The Russians were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

"Russia does not have in its possession any trustworthy data that supports the existence of nuclear weapons or any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and we have not received any such information from our partners as yet. This fact has also been supported by the information sent by the CIA to the US Congress." ~ Vladimir Putin 10.10.2002

Putin demands proof over Iraqi weapons UK news The Guardian​

When do you stop lying, liar?

Those don't say exactly what you think they say, and those are governments with constantly shifting positions. If we're going by single quotes, you can probably support they thought aliens were going to invade.

But let's say this was a consistent position from their governments for a second and they mean what you want them to mean instead of what they actually said. So you just nailed Democrats to the cross, yet again. You didn't think that one through, did you Poindexter?

None of those countries wavered on their belief that Iraq was not building WMD. You remain a fruit loop dingus.

More of your lies. Anyone who remembers that era knows that Russia, Germany, France and the UN were not claiming Saddam had no WMDs.

Only children who don't remember it and sheep who remember what they are told to remember think that. Which are you? I don't see no horns, boy

You said those countries believed Iraq was building WMD...

G'head .... prove it...

Two time failure:

1) I don't prove historical facts

2) I don't follow instructions based on clearly disingenuous intents.

If you are old enough and have even a sliver of an open mind, you remember

 

[Faun]

Do you think I'm surprised to see you still can't understand what I said?

I understand what you "said." Prague does not prove your contention W is evil and Democrats pure as the driven snow and W fooled the Democrats, Republicans, French, Russians, Germans and UN starting six months into his Presidency to believe Saddam had WMDs. It's wait for it ... stupid.

If he did that he's an evil genius. And the Democrats are naive sheep we can't possibly entrust with the Presidency in a dangerous world because if you ask them to hold their wallet for them, they will hand it to you. Are you seriously saying Democrats are that mind numbingly gullible that after 8 years in the Presidency and being on the Senate intelligence committee with their broad access to intelligence, W just came in and duped them? You are saying Democrats ignore everything they know and just blindly believe anything they are told, even when it contradicts what they know?

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

No they didnt lie at all. Nor did they maintain the connection between Iraq and al Qaeda was the reason for war. Germany et al were busy making money undermining the sanctions. Of course they opposed war.
You are a partisan ignoramus who can't shine Kaz's shoes much less take him on in a debate.

Oh, look ... the forum jester takes himself seriously.

LOL, from the guy who's own avatar admits you are the clown

The clown you voted for to be president.

 

[kaz]

God I fucking hate liberals.

Thanks for the affirmation that I'm on the right track. The more pissed off you are, the better job I'm doing.

You sure need to frequently claim your intellectual prowess. Don't think it is evident on your own, do you? You're right about that

 

[kaz]

I understand what you "said." Prague does not prove your contention W is evil and Democrats pure as the driven snow and W fooled the Democrats, Republicans, French, Russians, Germans and UN starting six months into his Presidency to believe Saddam had WMDs. It's wait for it ... stupid.

If he did that he's an evil genius. And the Democrats are naive sheep we can't possibly entrust with the Presidency in a dangerous world because if you ask them to hold their wallet for them, they will hand it to you. Are you seriously saying Democrats are that mind numbingly gullible that after 8 years in the Presidency and being on the Senate intelligence committee with their broad access to intelligence, W just came in and duped them? You are saying Democrats ignore everything they know and just blindly believe anything they are told, even when it contradicts what they know?

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

No they didnt lie at all. Nor did they maintain the connection between Iraq and al Qaeda was the reason for war. Germany et al were busy making money undermining the sanctions. Of course they opposed war.
You are a partisan ignoramus who can't shine Kaz's shoes much less take him on in a debate.

Oh, look ... the forum jester takes himself seriously.

LOL, from the guy who's own avatar admits you are the clown

The clown you voted for to be president.

That's a clown post, bro

 

[Faun]

Do you think I'm surprised to see you still can't understand what I said?

I understand what you "said." Prague does not prove your contention W is evil and Democrats pure as the driven snow and W fooled the Democrats, Republicans, French, Russians, Germans and UN starting six months into his Presidency to believe Saddam had WMDs. It's wait for it ... stupid.

If he did that he's an evil genius. And the Democrats are naive sheep we can't possibly entrust with the Presidency in a dangerous world because if you ask them to hold their wallet for them, they will hand it to you. Are you seriously saying Democrats are that mind numbingly gullible that after 8 years in the Presidency and being on the Senate intelligence committee with their broad access to intelligence, W just came in and duped them? You are saying Democrats ignore everything they know and just blindly believe anything they are told, even when it contradicts what they know?

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

You are rewriting history. The connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda was presented as a threat, not a claim that Al Qaeda was involved in 9/11. Sifting quotes doesn't change that.

This is more of your diversion campaign to alibi the Democrats and white wash their guilt. It's time for Democrats to man up and say they did it, but they were wrong and they learned from that instead of perpetuating the big lie of the Iraq war, the lie that you were lied to

Of course it was a claim that Iraq was involved in 9.11. How fucking retarded do you have to be (rhetorical question) to not understand that establishing a connection between Iraq and 9.11 is showing Iraq was involved?

Because in the administration narrative, it was an indirect link, not a direct one. They were asserting that Iraq had connections with Al Qaeda, and Al Qaeda did 9/11, so there is threat that Iraq could help them do more 9/11s. You can agree or disagree that was a threat, but it wasn't blaming Iraq for the actual 9/11.

And how fucking retarded do you have to be to not understand that this is more Democrats trying to blame your way out of your own behavior? Time to man up, admit you were wrong, say what you learned from that and moved on.

But I'm partisan, right? When I blame both you and Republicans? You're not partisan when you say it was all them, you are pure and innocent. No siree, it's obviously my position that's driven by politics....

More kazzing... aside from their claims that Iraq had connections with Al-Qaeda, was their attempt to connect Iraq with 9.11 by claiming a connection between Iraq and the lead 9.11 hijacker. And their lie worked beautifully for them since some 70% of those polled fell for it and believed Iraq was involved in 9.11.

 

[Faun]

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

No they didnt lie at all. Nor did they maintain the connection between Iraq and al Qaeda was the reason for war. Germany et al were busy making money undermining the sanctions. Of course they opposed war.
You are a partisan ignoramus who can't shine Kaz's shoes much less take him on in a debate.

Oh, look ... the forum jester takes himself seriously.

LOL, from the guy who's own avatar admits you are the clown

The clown you voted for to be president.

That's a clown post, bro

So's the guy you voted for to be president.

 

[Redfish]

No they didnt lie at all. Nor did they maintain the connection between Iraq and al Qaeda was the reason for war. Germany et al were busy making money undermining the sanctions. Of course they opposed war.
You are a partisan ignoramus who can't shine Kaz's shoes much less take him on in a debate.

Oh, look ... the forum jester takes himself seriously.

LOL, from the guy who's own avatar admits you are the clown

The clown you voted for to be president.

That's a clown post, bro

So's the guy you voted for to be president.

nope, the clown is the fool that you fools elected twice.

 

[Faun]

God I fucking hate liberals.

Thanks for the affirmation that I'm on the right track. The more pissed off you are, the better job I'm doing.

You sure need to frequently claim your intellectual prowess. Don't think it is evident on your own, do you? You're right about that

I made no such claim in that post. Lay off the hallucinogens.

 

[Faun]

Great .... kaz is kazzing again.

Really? The Germans were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

He said that as far as Germany was concerned, there was no evidence of any increased threat from Iraq, and that none of those supporting military action seemed to have thought through the consequences for the Middle East.

Opposition to Iraq attack harming ties US warning to Germany - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

"These are for me weighty arguments that lead me to say: Of course it is important for Germany what resolutions the United Nations adopt, but these arguments — these three — they remain my own, the ones that make me say: Hands off. Especially because, as I said before, the evidence appears to be highly dubious." ~ Gerhard Schroeder

Interview With Gerhard Schroeder​

Really? The French were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

AMANPOUR: Do you believe that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction; for instance, chemical or biological weapons?

PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Well, I don’t know. I have no evidence to support that... It seems that there are no nuclear weapons - no nuclear weapons program. That is something that the inspectors seem to be sure of.​

Really? The Russians were saying Hussein was building WMD? Actually, no, they weren't...

"Russia does not have in its possession any trustworthy data that supports the existence of nuclear weapons or any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and we have not received any such information from our partners as yet. This fact has also been supported by the information sent by the CIA to the US Congress." ~ Vladimir Putin 10.10.2002

Putin demands proof over Iraqi weapons UK news The Guardian​

When do you stop lying, liar?

Those don't say exactly what you think they say, and those are governments with constantly shifting positions. If we're going by single quotes, you can probably support they thought aliens were going to invade.

But let's say this was a consistent position from their governments for a second and they mean what you want them to mean instead of what they actually said. So you just nailed Democrats to the cross, yet again. You didn't think that one through, did you Poindexter?

None of those countries wavered on their belief that Iraq was not building WMD. You remain a fruit loop dingus.

More of your lies. Anyone who remembers that era knows that Russia, Germany, France and the UN were not claiming Saddam had no WMDs.

Only children who don't remember it and sheep who remember what they are told to remember think that. Which are you? I don't see no horns, boy

You said those countries believed Iraq was building WMD...

G'head .... prove it...

Two time failure:

1) I don't prove historical facts

2) I don't follow instructions based on clearly disingenuous intents.

If you are old enough and have even a sliver of an open mind, you remember

Game, set, match.

Kaz throws in the towel.

 

[kaz]

I understand what you "said." Prague does not prove your contention W is evil and Democrats pure as the driven snow and W fooled the Democrats, Republicans, French, Russians, Germans and UN starting six months into his Presidency to believe Saddam had WMDs. It's wait for it ... stupid.

If he did that he's an evil genius. And the Democrats are naive sheep we can't possibly entrust with the Presidency in a dangerous world because if you ask them to hold their wallet for them, they will hand it to you. Are you seriously saying Democrats are that mind numbingly gullible that after 8 years in the Presidency and being on the Senate intelligence committee with their broad access to intelligence, W just came in and duped them? You are saying Democrats ignore everything they know and just blindly believe anything they are told, even when it contradicts what they know?

The Bush administration lied about there being a connection between Iraq and 9.11 and then used that connection to get the American people behind them to support a war against Iraq. How is that not evil?

And again, despite your abject ignorance, Germany, France, and Russia did not buy into Bush's bullshit. That you think they did only serves to highlight what a moron you are.

You are rewriting history. The connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda was presented as a threat, not a claim that Al Qaeda was involved in 9/11. Sifting quotes doesn't change that.

This is more of your diversion campaign to alibi the Democrats and white wash their guilt. It's time for Democrats to man up and say they did it, but they were wrong and they learned from that instead of perpetuating the big lie of the Iraq war, the lie that you were lied to

Of course it was a claim that Iraq was involved in 9.11. How fucking retarded do you have to be (rhetorical question) to not understand that establishing a connection between Iraq and 9.11 is showing Iraq was involved?

Because in the administration narrative, it was an indirect link, not a direct one. They were asserting that Iraq had connections with Al Qaeda, and Al Qaeda did 9/11, so there is threat that Iraq could help them do more 9/11s. You can agree or disagree that was a threat, but it wasn't blaming Iraq for the actual 9/11.

And how fucking retarded do you have to be to not understand that this is more Democrats trying to blame your way out of your own behavior? Time to man up, admit you were wrong, say what you learned from that and moved on.

But I'm partisan, right? When I blame both you and Republicans? You're not partisan when you say it was all them, you are pure and innocent. No siree, it's obviously my position that's driven by politics....

More kazzing... aside from their claims that Iraq had connections with Al-Qaeda, was their attempt to connect Iraq with 9.11 by claiming a connection between Iraq and the lead 9.11 hijacker. And their lie worked beautifully for them since some 70% of those polled fell for it and believed Iraq was involved in 9.11.

They were viewed as being involved in terror. They were. 70% were not even knowledgeable enough on the middle east to have that specific view, so it was a bull shit poll. Half the country can't name the Vice President

 

[Faun]

Oh, look ... the forum jester takes himself seriously.

LOL, from the guy who's own avatar admits you are the clown

The clown you voted for to be president.

That's a clown post, bro

So's the guy you voted for to be president.

nope, the clown is the fool that you fools elected twice.

.... and a pre-K'er throws in his, I know you are but what an I, intellect.

Thanks for your contribution.

 

[kaz]

Those don't say exactly what you think they say, and those are governments with constantly shifting positions. If we're going by single quotes, you can probably support they thought aliens were going to invade.

But let's say this was a consistent position from their governments for a second and they mean what you want them to mean instead of what they actually said. So you just nailed Democrats to the cross, yet again. You didn't think that one through, did you Poindexter?

None of those countries wavered on their belief that Iraq was not building WMD. You remain a fruit loop dingus.

More of your lies. Anyone who remembers that era knows that Russia, Germany, France and the UN were not claiming Saddam had no WMDs.

Only children who don't remember it and sheep who remember what they are told to remember think that. Which are you? I don't see no horns, boy

You said those countries believed Iraq was building WMD...

G'head .... prove it...

Two time failure:

1) I don't prove historical facts

2) I don't follow instructions based on clearly disingenuous intents.

If you are old enough and have even a sliver of an open mind, you remember

Game, set, match.

Kaz throws in the towel.

Once again you need to declare victory. I gave you two pretty good answers, Sparky

 

[Redfish]

LOL, from the guy who's own avatar admits you are the clown

The clown you voted for to be president.

That's a clown post, bro

So's the guy you voted for to be president.

nope, the clown is the fool that you fools elected twice.

.... and a pre-K'er throws in his, I know you are but what an I, intellect.

Thanks for your contribution.

your avatar shows your intelligence level. I would say about third grade. You are a waste of time. You are in consideration for the next member of my ignore list.

I do not wish to discuss things with anyone who is unable to think independently and whose only contribution is repetition of dem/libs lies and talking points.

you are on probation.