Broward County Elections Supervisor to Receive Nearly $130,000 A Year In Pensions When She Resigns i

[debbiedowner]

Never said she wasn’t, but their pension levels are ridiculous. Not even 20 years, $71 grand per year.

Her pension is based on 50 years of service not two weeks of recount

14 years of service with Broward county, resulting in $71 grand a year. The other is from her teaching career. 14 years. $71 grand a year.

50 years is a long career

Unless she was involved in criminal activity,was convicted and ordered to forfeit her pension

She is entitled to it

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

 

[rightwinger]

Broward County has your money to burn! Those homeless folks be damned!

Broward County Elections Supervisor to Receive Nearly $130,000 a Year in Pensions When She Resigns in January

That is absurd, way over the top. 80% of Americans don't earn that much money at their jobs.

She was receiving over $170,000 a year in salary. It’s nuts. She should have been fired. I blame that on Scott.

Scott is not responsible for counties.

The Governor of Florida certainly can fire a county elections supervisor and someone warned him two years ago but he did not heed the warning. Look it up if you think you can't live with this reply.

Even if she is fired she still gets her pension

 

[depotoo]

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Never said she wasn’t, but their pension levels are ridiculous. Not even 20 years, $71 grand per year.

Her pension is based on 50 years of service not two weeks of recount

14 years of service with Broward county, resulting in $71 grand a year. The other is from her teaching career. 14 years. $71 grand a year.

50 years is a long career

Unless she was involved in criminal activity,was convicted and ordered to forfeit her pension

She is entitled to it

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

 

[rightwinger]

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Never said she wasn’t, but their pension levels are ridiculous. Not even 20 years, $71 grand per year.

Her pension is based on 50 years of service not two weeks of recount

14 years of service with Broward county, resulting in $71 grand a year. The other is from her teaching career. 14 years. $71 grand a year.

50 years is a long career

Unless she was involved in criminal activity,was convicted and ordered to forfeit her pension

She is entitled to it

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

Says nothing about pensions

 

[Weatherman2020]

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Never said she wasn’t, but their pension levels are ridiculous. Not even 20 years, $71 grand per year.

14 years of service with Broward county, resulting in $71 grand a year. The other is from her teaching career. 14 years. $71 grand a year.

50 years is a long career

Unless she was involved in criminal activity,was convicted and ordered to forfeit her pension

She is entitled to it

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

Says nothing about pensions

Time to eliminate all government pensions and let them save for retirement like almost all Americans.

 

[boedicca]

Public employees double dipping is a big reason for looming government insolvency. They should not be eligible for pension pay outs until the same age as SS recipients receive full benefits - and early retirement to start another job should result in a prorated, much smaller pension.

 

[rightwinger]

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Never said she wasn’t, but their pension levels are ridiculous. Not even 20 years, $71 grand per year.

50 years is a long career

Unless she was involved in criminal activity,was convicted and ordered to forfeit her pension

She is entitled to it

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

Says nothing about pensions

Time to eliminate all government pensions and let them save for retirement like almost all Americans.

They did that about 30 years ago

 

[debbiedowner]

Public employees double dipping is a big reason for looming government insolvency. They should not be eligible for pension pay outs until the same age as SS recipients receive full benefits - and early retirement to start another job should result in a prorated, much smaller pension.

Well that's strange you should bring up double dipping because it's a big thing here in Florida the double dippers love it and others not so much. You, me and we all can bitch all day long and it's never going to change in our life time.

 

[debbiedowner]

Is anyone against double dipping a chip in dip?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Never said she wasn’t, but their pension levels are ridiculous. Not even 20 years, $71 grand per year.

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

Says nothing about pensions

Time to eliminate all government pensions and let them save for retirement like almost all Americans.

They did that about 30 years ago

Which universe?

 

[WinterBorn]

Public employees double dipping is a big reason for looming government insolvency. They should not be eligible for pension pay outs until the same age as SS recipients receive full benefits - and early retirement to start another job should result in a prorated, much smaller pension.

She was 60 years old when she retired from teaching. She is 75 years old now. It doesn't seem like she retired early.

And if both positions offer a pension, and she qualifies for both, she gets them both.

 

[rightwinger]

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

Says nothing about pensions

Time to eliminate all government pensions and let them save for retirement like almost all Americans.

They did that about 30 years ago

Which universe?

FERS was passed under Reagan

 

[boedicca]

Public employees double dipping is a big reason for looming government insolvency. They should not be eligible for pension pay outs until the same age as SS recipients receive full benefits - and early retirement to start another job should result in a prorated, much smaller pension.

Well that's strange you should bring up double dipping because it's a big thing here in Florida the double dippers love it and others not so much. You, me and we all can bitch all day long and it's never going to change in our life time.

That's quite a fatalist attitude. We'll see what happens when a couple major Blue Cities declare bankruptcy due to pensions swamping their budgets. I'll bet they throw retirees under the bus instead of eliminating police and fire departments.

 

[boedicca]

Public employees double dipping is a big reason for looming government insolvency. They should not be eligible for pension pay outs until the same age as SS recipients receive full benefits - and early retirement to start another job should result in a prorated, much smaller pension.

She was 60 years old when she retired from teaching. She is 75 years old now. It doesn't seem like she retired early.

And if both positions offer a pension, and she qualifies for both, she gets them both.

Then an add: mandatory retirement for public employees at the SS benefit age.

 

[depotoo]

They are part of the state pension system, and fully vested within 6 years.
Here they explain the formula

MyFRS :: FRS Programs Comparing the Plans Benefit Calculation

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Never said she wasn’t, but their pension levels are ridiculous. Not even 20 years, $71 grand per year.

14 years of service with Broward county, resulting in $71 grand a year. The other is from her teaching career. 14 years. $71 grand a year.

50 years is a long career

Unless she was involved in criminal activity,was convicted and ordered to forfeit her pension

She is entitled to it

Then you should bitch to the state there are many that fall under the same system. Do you want her to say well hell no don't pay me that much? Don't think so, blame the pension system.

Says nothing about pensions

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Uhmm, that is why I researched it, and brought up what I found here, so others also understand what is going on.

For anyone interested, seems they changed it to this formula base in 1973, under Dem gov and Dem legislature-

Salaries of Elected County Constitutional Officers and School District Officials for Fiscal Year 2015-16
Summary:
The practice of determining the compensation of Florida’s county constitutional officers by state law was sanctioned by the Constitution of 1885 and has been maintained since the 1968 constitutional revision.1 However, it was not until 1973 that the Legislature authorized the salary compensation formula that was the precursor to its present form.2 Prior to that legislation, the authorization of changes to county officers’ compensation required frequent legislative action. A summary of these historical constitutional provisions and general law amendments can be found in this report’s appendix.
In expressing its intent, the Legislature determined that a uniform salary law was needed to replace the previous local law method of determining compensation, which was haphazard, preferential, inequitable, and probably unconstitutional.3 In addition, the Legislature intended to provide for uniform compensation of county officers having substantially equal duties and responsibilities and basing these uniform salary schedules on countywide population. Furthermore, in acknowledging the Legislature’s stated intent for uniformity, Florida’s Attorney General opined in 2008 that a sheriff could not voluntarily reduce his or her salary below that established by law.4 However, in 2009, the Legislature authorized district school board members and elected school superintendents to reduce their salaries on a voluntary basis.5 Furthermore, in 2011, the Legislature authorized county commissioners, clerks of circuit court, county comptrollers, sheriffs, supervisors of elections, property appraisers, and tax collectors to voluntarily reduce their salaries.6
The statutory salary provisions apply to all designated officers in all counties, except those officials whose salaries are not subject to being set by the Legislature due to the provisions of a county home rule charter, as well as those officials of counties that have a chartered consolidated form of government as provided in Chapter 67-1320, L.O.F., (i.e., Duval County).7 The adoption of a charter provides the county’s electors with a mechanism to fundamentally alter the form of county government and the status of constitutional officers.8 Salaries have been computed for all officers of charter counties and are provided for reference purposes even though the statutorily-calculated figures may not be applicable.
The current salary formula methodology specifies that the latest official population census counts or intercensal estimates for the years between decennial censuses serve as a major component of the salary computation. In addition to the population figures, the salary formula contains five other components. The base salary and group rate components for the separate officers are specified in various sections of Chapter 145, F.S., for elected county officers and Chapter 1001, F.S., for elected school district officials.9 The initial factor component is currently set in law as a constant numerical value.10 The Florida Department of Management Services (DMS) annually certifies the remaining two components, the annual factor and cumulative annual factor, used in the salary formula calculations.11 Traditionally, this annual certification has occurred in late summer, typically during the month of August or September.12
Prior to 1984, the Florida Department of Community Affairs calculated salaries for county constitutional officers; however, that authority was deleted from law during the 1984 legislative session.13 From 1985 through 2009, the former Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations continued the annual salary calculations for county constitutional officers and elected school officials as a service to governmental units. Since 2010, the Legislature’s Office of Economic and Demographic Research (EDR) has made the annual calculations. Since the EDR is not required by law to perform these calculations, county government and school district officials are encouraged to independently verify the salaries of their respective elected officials.
http://edr.state.fl.us/content/local-government/reports/finsal15.pdf

Says nothing about pensions

Time to eliminate all government pensions and let them save for retirement like almost all Americans.

They did that about 30 years ago

Which universe?

FERS was passed under Reagan

FERS is a government pension system. All that changed was the amount paid in


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[rightwinger]

Says nothing about pensions

Time to eliminate all government pensions and let them save for retirement like almost it moved all Americans.

They did that about 30 years ago

Which universe?

FERS was passed under Reagan

FERS is a government pension system. All that changed was the amount paid in


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It moved federal employees into Social Security

 

[debbiedowner]

Public employees double dipping is a big reason for looming government insolvency. They should not be eligible for pension pay outs until the same age as SS recipients receive full benefits - and early retirement to start another job should result in a prorated, much smaller pension.

Well that's strange you should bring up double dipping because it's a big thing here in Florida the double dippers love it and others not so much. You, me and we all can bitch all day long and it's never going to change in our life time.

That's quite a fatalist attitude. We'll see what happens when a couple major Blue Cities declare bankruptcy due to pensions swamping their budgets. I'll bet they throw retirees under the bus instead of eliminating police and fire departments.

Hey dummy the whole state of Florida is on this even the pure red cities.

 

[Flash]

Big bucks in Democrat election corruption.

The pension from her work as supervisor of elections is $71,000. Not exactly pennies. But not what I would call "big bucks" either. The rest of her pension is from her 39 years as a teacher and school administrator.

My wife is a retired Florida teacher that worked for more than 30 years. Her pension is not 130K a year. Not by a long shot.

The filthy partisan bitch needs to be in jail for her blatant corruption.

Did your wife have a PhD?
Was she a school administrator?
Did she move on to an executive position with the county?
Did she work for 50 years?

When she did we can compare pensions

That asshole Snipes got her degree from Florida Atlantic University, which is a fucking diploma mill for sorry ass Negroes.

She is nothing more than a sorry ass affirmation action Negro asshole that is as corrupt as the the day is long. She is dumber than a door knob. Typical Black Democrat.

She needs to be in jail for that shit she pulled to disenfranchise over 700 Scott voters by submitting the votes too late to be counted.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Time to eliminate all government pensions and let them save for retirement like almost it moved all Americans.

They did that about 30 years ago

Which universe?

FERS was passed under Reagan

FERS is a government pension system. All that changed was the amount paid in


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It moved federal employees into Social Security

Social Security pays 6 figures a year?