Bribery is a loser

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    I am far from a Trump supporter, however I need to call out yet another misstep from the Democrats. I posted about how Obstruction was a losing argument after the Mueller Report was released and now I see them doing it again with the Bribery claim.

    I get that Bribery is in the constitution so they want to draw a simple and direct line with their charges for impeachment but what Trump did and what the context of bribery in the constitution is are two different things. By their definition, politicians and all past presidents commit bribery in the course of their foreign affairs. What Trump did was an abuse of office by dealing for personal gain, that should be the focus, not bribery. What the constitution was trying to protect from was politicians being paid to make policy... of course the lines are blurred with all the lobbying that goes on in Washington, a system that I’d happily like to see reformed, but that’s another story.

    Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
     
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    They can't quit.

    They're the kamikaze pilot who is already in the dive on the target, with the entire plane in flames.....They're going to completely disintegrate and die, in the name of The Party.

    Maybe Hillary has some sake in her stash for them.
     
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    Sorry that won't cut it. They looked the other way when vp biden was actually involved in corrupt acts with ukraine and son. The hypocrisy is laughable. Trump broke no laws. The lib carnie show will roll on with their hate and emotion. That's all they have.
     
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    Here is the problem, people have no idea what qid pro quo is. In fact, with our fabulous government run education system they are lucky to even know what bribery is.

    But this also works to their benefit. People that don't know what bribery is, which is used incorrectly as you point out, will simply accept the fake DNC run news they get from the press about it being illegal and Trump being guilty of it.
     
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    that sounds more like an emotional hope rather than an educated analysis. The Dems will be fine, they are fueled by hate for Trump and there is plenty... just like Trump has been fueled by his base. He can do no wrong for that 35%. Welcome to team politics
     
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    Biden broke no laws, he was mandated by his president and congress to do exactly what he did. Trump was acting in his own self interest to boost his political campaign. Big difference.
     
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    The problem they are going to face is with the way they define bribery... it will be able to be applied to several things that the Obama administration and that of all other presidents did as well. They should stick to the unique and inappropriate elements of what Trump did which was using his office to promote his political campaign.
     
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    It's all been a misstep. This whole thing was dumb. They should have just stuck with calling trump a Nazi and left it at that. Hillary Clintons brused ego has caused a sickness among libtards.
     
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    They're fucking committed to this idiocy....If their "star witnesses" are a couple of nobody administrators who have nothing more than third-hand hearsay and some weepy bureaucrat who was fired months before anything being investigated happened, they don't have so much as a popcorn fart....If you can't see that, you need yet another serious reality check...Seems to be a recurring theme with you.
     
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    No he wasn't mandated to work favors for his son and extort the prosecutor in Ukraine. Yeah there is a big difference since trump broke no laws so dont expect anyone but the lib carnies to buy this hypocritical bearded lady donkey show.
     
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