Brexit Vote Aftermath

[Mindful]

Older Brit retirees in southern European EU countries are claiming many times the healthcare benefits than younger EU citizens are claiming in Britain.

As far as unemployment benefits.

"At least 30,000 British nationals are currently claiming unemployment benefit in countries around the EU, The Guardian reported, based on a survey with responses from 23 of the 27 other EU members.

The research shows more than four times as many Britons obtain unemployment benefits in Germany as Germans do in the UK, while the number of jobless Britons receiving benefits in Ireland exceeds their Irish counterparts in the UK by a rate of five to one."

Thousands of Britons on benefits across EU

This is how it will work.
We ship out thousands of fit young hard working foreigners and import thousands of geriatric ,sick pensioners. The medical staff who would have looked after them have been kicked out as well so it all looks a bit bleak.
This is what "taking back control" means.

And that is not how it will work as we will rid the nation od scroungers and layabouts, criminals and fraudsters cutting the net costs to the nation as a whole by £1 billion a year. The elderly are for the most part fit and healthy or they would not be alive to live long enough in the EU. The 500,000 nurses currently out of work will fill the places of the poorly trained nursing assistants who have been allowed to infest out hospitals, forced on the nation by the EU. ( you forgot all about that didnt you, that an EU doctor who cant speak a word of English gets precedence over an Australian doctor higher qualified and who can speak English) You also forgot about the costs of translators and such that have to be met out of the hospital budget

In total the NHS has spent £64.4 million on translation services in the last three financial years. This amount equates to a staggering £59k per day. Overall costs of translation are on the rise, whilst the cost of written translation is decreasing, which indicates that it is the cost of interpretation that is rising.

www.2020health.org/

Just think tommy how much more money you welsh could get if we removed all the unemployed foriegners from Britain, then lose whan you went back in the EU ?

I do wonder if you actually believe this crap. Even the most rabid brexit wankers like farage never claimed any of this.

What harbinger of doom/end times do we have today?

 

[Phoenall]

Older Brit retirees in southern European EU countries are claiming many times the healthcare benefits than younger EU citizens are claiming in Britain.

As far as unemployment benefits.

"At least 30,000 British nationals are currently claiming unemployment benefit in countries around the EU, The Guardian reported, based on a survey with responses from 23 of the 27 other EU members.

The research shows more than four times as many Britons obtain unemployment benefits in Germany as Germans do in the UK, while the number of jobless Britons receiving benefits in Ireland exceeds their Irish counterparts in the UK by a rate of five to one."

Thousands of Britons on benefits across EU

This is how it will work.
We ship out thousands of fit young hard working foreigners and import thousands of geriatric ,sick pensioners. The medical staff who would have looked after them have been kicked out as well so it all looks a bit bleak.
This is what "taking back control" means.

And that is not how it will work as we will rid the nation od scroungers and layabouts, criminals and fraudsters cutting the net costs to the nation as a whole by £1 billion a year. The elderly are for the most part fit and healthy or they would not be alive to live long enough in the EU. The 500,000 nurses currently out of work will fill the places of the poorly trained nursing assistants who have been allowed to infest out hospitals, forced on the nation by the EU. ( you forgot all about that didnt you, that an EU doctor who cant speak a word of English gets precedence over an Australian doctor higher qualified and who can speak English) You also forgot about the costs of translators and such that have to be met out of the hospital budget

In total the NHS has spent £64.4 million on translation services in the last three financial years. This amount equates to a staggering £59k per day. Overall costs of translation are on the rise, whilst the cost of written translation is decreasing, which indicates that it is the cost of interpretation that is rising.

www.2020health.org/

Just think tommy how much more money you welsh could get if we removed all the unemployed foriegners from Britain, then lose whan you went back in the EU ?

I do wonder if you actually believe this crap. Even the most rabid brexit wankers like farage never claimed any of this.

They do and the press reported on them before the last election. And you morons in wales, scotland and N.I. cant see that if you break apart the union you will be giving away your rights to make your own laws and give control of your lives to the EU. Isnt that the major reason you want to leave the union

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

People voted for it based on total ignorance.

Yet more hardcore liberal spew from 'Mr. Objective'

Bravisimo!

Wow, just an attack.

That's exactly what you did. Surely, those poor ignorant fools for voters weren't as enlightened as you are!

Damn bitch, you had nothing to say to that! Have some!

 

[ESay]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

 

[Mindful]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

We were going to do that anyway, I thought. And provide much more aid to refugee camps........over there........wherever.

 

[Phoenall]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

No as that is no different to the arab league peace plan is to the Israelis. We want control over our borders and the right to deport criminals who are not British. We also want the right to make trade agreements with other nations without having to offer them to other EU nations first. We want a common market not a neo marxist federation as it is now.

 

[ESay]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

No as that is no different to the arab league peace plan is to the Israelis. We want control over our borders and the right to deport criminals who are not British. We also want the right to make trade agreements with other nations without having to offer them to other EU nations first. We want a common market not a neo marxist federation as it is now.

But you understand that Britain will have to make concessions to strike a deal with the EU, don’t you? And in one form or another it will have to receive European workers in the future, though in a limited scale, I think.

 

[Phoenall]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

No as that is no different to the arab league peace plan is to the Israelis. We want control over our borders and the right to deport criminals who are not British. We also want the right to make trade agreements with other nations without having to offer them to other EU nations first. We want a common market not a neo marxist federation as it is now.

But you understand that Britain will have to make concessions to strike a deal with the EU, don’t you? And in one form or another it will have to receive European workers in the future, though in a limited scale, I think.

WHY? we could just say to the EU if you want us to buy your goods then these are the new rules, if you dont like them then find someone else to support your failing agriculture. We are prepared to accept those Europeans that have a job to go to that cant be done by British workers, who are earning in excess of £50,000 and paying the going rate of stoppages. We will not accept unemployable scroungers like we have been forced to do, pay them welfare and build them mansions back home. If the EU does not like this then they will have to increase the amounts paid by each nation or reduce the costs

 

[ESay]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

No as that is no different to the arab league peace plan is to the Israelis. We want control over our borders and the right to deport criminals who are not British. We also want the right to make trade agreements with other nations without having to offer them to other EU nations first. We want a common market not a neo marxist federation as it is now.

But you understand that Britain will have to make concessions to strike a deal with the EU, don’t you? And in one form or another it will have to receive European workers in the future, though in a limited scale, I think.

WHY? we could just say to the EU if you want us to buy your goods then these are the new rules, if you dont like them then find someone else to support your failing agriculture. We are prepared to accept those Europeans that have a job to go to that cant be done by British workers, who are earning in excess of £50,000 and paying the going rate of stoppages. We will not accept unemployable scroungers like we have been forced to do, pay them welfare and build them mansions back home. If the EU does not like this then they will have to increase the amounts paid by each nation or reduce the costs

Why? Because almost half of Britain’s exports go to the EU while the EU sends around 15% of its goods to the UK.
Because British financial organisations will want to get lucrative terms in order to preserve London’s role of one of financial centres of Europe.

 

[Phoenall]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

No as that is no different to the arab league peace plan is to the Israelis. We want control over our borders and the right to deport criminals who are not British. We also want the right to make trade agreements with other nations without having to offer them to other EU nations first. We want a common market not a neo marxist federation as it is now.

But you understand that Britain will have to make concessions to strike a deal with the EU, don’t you? And in one form or another it will have to receive European workers in the future, though in a limited scale, I think.

WHY? we could just say to the EU if you want us to buy your goods then these are the new rules, if you dont like them then find someone else to support your failing agriculture. We are prepared to accept those Europeans that have a job to go to that cant be done by British workers, who are earning in excess of £50,000 and paying the going rate of stoppages. We will not accept unemployable scroungers like we have been forced to do, pay them welfare and build them mansions back home. If the EU does not like this then they will have to increase the amounts paid by each nation or reduce the costs

Why? Because almost half of Britain’s exports go to the EU while the EU sends around 15% of its goods to the UK.
Because British financial organisations will want to get lucrative terms in order to preserve London’s role of one of financial centres of Europe.

WRONG as it is 20% of Britains exports go to the EU at most, and these are services. The EU sends Britain 80% of its imports. The firms already have these lucrative terms and will enforce them if the EU dares to pull out of contracts and give them to French, German or any other nations institutions. Have you heard of INTELECTUAL PROPERTY well that is what the British firms have with their services. So taking the trade away from London will cost the EU more than they could ever make from such an action and would bring the whole institution to its knees.

Want to try another of the remain lies that hold no water. After the fiasco at Dover this week expect Brits to stay at home and not go to Europe for their holidays. Look at what happened to Greece and Portugal and is now happening to Spain and Italy.

 

[ESay]

WRONG as it is 20% of Britains exports go to the EU at most, and these are services. The EU sends Britain 80% of its imports.

Do you have any figures that confirm your claim? Look at the World Fact book, for example. You will see that four European countries – Germany, France, Netherlands, and Ireland – make up more than 25% of the British exports.

The firms already have these lucrative terms and will enforce them if the EU dares to pull out of contracts and give them to French, German or any other nations institutions. Have you heard of INTELECTUAL PROPERTY well that is what the British firms have with their services. So taking the trade away from London will cost the EU more than they could ever make from such an action and would bring the whole institution to its knees.

It is not the EU will dare. It is clients of your firms will do that because they will no longer need these firms because these firms won’t have free access to the EU.

And what does intellectual property have to do with that? If, for example, Mr Lee will chose a firm in Frankfurt rather than in London to operate his businesses in Europe, then he will breach the intellectual rights of the London firm or what?

 

[Drummond]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

I say it's a step in the right direction, but it's also a rather inadequate one.

The EU really needs to understand that WE have a right to control OUR borders. Implicit in this 'compromise' is that a concession is being made which nonetheless still refuses to accept our right to sovereignty over our own land and who may come here !!

Basically, it amounts to yet more arrogance from the EU ... an EU which we're on course to rid ourselves of membership from. Perhaps, one day, those running the EU will decide that they need to stop controlling everything and everyone. That this is even an issue is an outrage, and further illustrates how VERY right we were to quit this control-freaking colossus.

 

[montelatici]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

I say it's a step in the right direction, but it's also a rather inadequate one.

The EU really needs to understand that WE have a right to control OUR borders. Implicit in this 'compromise' is that a concession is being made which nonetheless still refuses to accept our right to sovereignty over our own land and who may come here !!

Basically, it amounts to yet more arrogance from the EU ... an EU which we're on course to rid ourselves of membership from. Perhaps, one day, those running the EU will decide that they need to stop controlling everything and everyone. That this is even an issue is an outrage, and further illustrates how VERY right we were to quit this control-freaking colossus.

The UK needs to understand that the Union has the right to control its borders, that includes the single market within those borders.

 

[Drummond]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

I say it's a step in the right direction, but it's also a rather inadequate one.

The EU really needs to understand that WE have a right to control OUR borders. Implicit in this 'compromise' is that a concession is being made which nonetheless still refuses to accept our right to sovereignty over our own land and who may come here !!

Basically, it amounts to yet more arrogance from the EU ... an EU which we're on course to rid ourselves of membership from. Perhaps, one day, those running the EU will decide that they need to stop controlling everything and everyone. That this is even an issue is an outrage, and further illustrates how VERY right we were to quit this control-freaking colossus.

The UK needs to understand that the Union has the right to control its borders, that includes the single market within those borders.

That would be ... the EU, acting effectively as a single entity, with all Member States subsumed, politically, within it ? Yes ?

That would be ... the EU, not even satisfied with THAT, then trying to dictate damaging terms to an non-affiliated country ? Yes .. ?

 

[montelatici]

Of course. That has always been the objective, a united Europe. As stated in the first article of the Treaty of Rome. Once out, the UK will have no more right to the Single Market than Japan, China the U.S. etc. Why should it? The Brexiters should have thought it through.

 

[Phoenall]

WRONG as it is 20% of Britains exports go to the EU at most, and these are services. The EU sends Britain 80% of its imports.

Do you have any figures that confirm your claim? Look at the World Fact book, for example. You will see that four European countries – Germany, France, Netherlands, and Ireland – make up more than 25% of the British exports.

The firms already have these lucrative terms and will enforce them if the EU dares to pull out of contracts and give them to French, German or any other nations institutions. Have you heard of INTELECTUAL PROPERTY well that is what the British firms have with their services. So taking the trade away from London will cost the EU more than they could ever make from such an action and would bring the whole institution to its knees.

It is not the EU will dare. It is clients of your firms will do that because they will no longer need these firms because these firms won’t have free access to the EU.

And what does intellectual property have to do with that? If, for example, Mr Lee will chose a firm in Frankfurt rather than in London to operate his businesses in Europe, then he will breach the intellectual rights of the London firm or what?

Read it again as it 25% of EU trade to Britain not 25% of total trade.


Then they will find themselves in court and being forced to honour contracts they signed. Then they will be forced to pay huge sums in compensation, possibly making them go into liquidation in the process. They will also be blacklisted for breach of contract putting the cost's up in the future
If the bussines model used by the firm is theirs then the model can not be used by another firm without their permision, so the company would have to hunt for another one that is freely available and works for them. The access to Europe will still be there as Europe wont want to lose that much of its banking because of pettyness.It is just the new contracts that will be at risk, and they can be made just as watertight

 

[Phoenall]

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years

Brexit: EU considers migration ‘emergency brake’ for UK for up to seven years


Is that compromise agreeable for you, Brexiters?

I say it's a step in the right direction, but it's also a rather inadequate one.

The EU really needs to understand that WE have a right to control OUR borders. Implicit in this 'compromise' is that a concession is being made which nonetheless still refuses to accept our right to sovereignty over our own land and who may come here !!

Basically, it amounts to yet more arrogance from the EU ... an EU which we're on course to rid ourselves of membership from. Perhaps, one day, those running the EU will decide that they need to stop controlling everything and everyone. That this is even an issue is an outrage, and further illustrates how VERY right we were to quit this control-freaking colossus.

The UK needs to understand that the Union has the right to control its borders, that includes the single market within those borders.

We do which more than you do, and we also know that without border controls more of what is happening in mainland Europe will become the norm until the armed forces are deployed and the muslims forcibly removed. If the EU cant control its borders then more and more nations will leave and control their own. This is already happening in the east with the poorer EU nations putting border controls in place and firing on illegal immigrants contrary to the EU rules.

 

[Phoenall]

Of course. That has always been the objective, a united Europe. As stated in the first article of the Treaty of Rome. Once out, the UK will have no more right to the Single Market than Japan, China the U.S. etc. Why should it? The Brexiters should have thought it through.

You didnt get it did you.

IT IS NOT A UNITED EUROPE BUT A FEDERATION OF SOVIET STATES SUBSERVIENT TO THE NEO MARXIST LEADERS IN THE HAGUE. THEY WILL HAVE NO SAY IN THEIR OWN LAWS OR WHAT THEY GROW. SO THEY WILL BECOME JUST LIKE THE UKRAINE AND OTHER PLACES UNDER THE HEEL OF DICTATORS


Without outside trade the EU will go under and they will lose the fishing grounds they are plundering at the moment to the non EU nations. This will put fish as a staple of their diet out of their reach, unless they send an armed escort with their fleet to say British waters and try threats of war if we try and stop them.

 

[barryqwalsh]

Who are the "mad, swivel-eyed loons" now?

David Cameron ally: Tory activists are mad, swivel-eyed loons

 

[Mindful]

Of course. That has always been the objective, a united Europe. As stated in the first article of the Treaty of Rome. Once out, the UK will have no more right to the Single Market than Japan, China the U.S. etc. Why should it? The Brexiters should have thought it through.

You didnt get it did you.

IT IS NOT A UNITED EUROPE BUT A FEDERATION OF SOVIET STATES SUBSERVIENT TO THE NEO MARXIST LEADERS IN THE HAGUE. THEY WILL HAVE NO SAY IN THEIR OWN LAWS OR WHAT THEY GROW. SO THEY WILL BECOME JUST LIKE THE UKRAINE AND OTHER PLACES UNDER THE HEEL OF DICTATORS


Without outside trade the EU will go under and they will lose the fishing grounds they are plundering at the moment to the non EU nations. This will put fish as a staple of their diet out of their reach, unless they send an armed escort with their fleet to say British waters and try threats of war if we try and stop them.

Question.

Is there such a thing as a European people?