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Sherry, no one is dismissing anything. I am merely give nuance to that which you wish to discuss. Folks will be able to discuss Beck and the Skousenic principles in their proper context: LDS millenarian eschatology: the Mormon Kingdom of God will rule theocratically here on earth all of mankind. Is this not so?
My "hidden" agenda is to put those principles in context.
Your hidden agenda is to hide that context.
Sherry, if you are LDS, you are violating your Temple covenant to be honest with all men and women. If you are not LDS, you are simply being deceptive, and not being very good at it. Either or, just fess up and move on.
You are not just trying to state who the author is, you're attempting to discredit his words by tying them to his particular faith. You can't seem to grasp that they can stand outside of his faith and apply to all people of faith. I get why you're trying to do so, but it's deceptive. Why do you continue to avoid addressing any of the principles to prove your claim??George Washington's Sacred Fire. Peter Lillback. Just finished it. Great book for those who are interested in the history of America and the men who built it.
My "hidden" agenda is to put those principles in context.
Your hidden agenda is to hide that context.
Sherry, if you are LDS, you are violating your Temple covenant to be honest with all men and women. If you are not LDS, you are simply being deceptive, and not being very good at it. Either or, just fess up and move on.
I'm a heathen Lutheran.
My "hidden" agenda is to put those principles in context.
Your hidden agenda is to hide that context.
Sherry, if you are LDS, you are violating your Temple covenant to be honest with all men and women. If you are not LDS, you are simply being deceptive, and not being very good at it. Either or, just fess up and move on.
I'm a heathen Lutheran.
The LDS may think you belong to a heathen faith, I don't. The principles can be fairly discussed in context. I have no idea why you are so afraid of full disclosure so that a full examination of the principles can begin.
Oh, the principles themselves? Sherry, I don't care what a wack like Glenn Beck (whom I have personally met and like) thinks about American history. And I certainly hold no respect for Cleon Skousen at all: the man's word generally could not be trusted. No need to based on these guys' reps.
Not at all. I have read all of Cleon's work and about him that is available, including the FBI materials released to the public that reveal his lack of integrity. Glenn was urged by many to reveal his LDS faith for years before he finally did. He cannot divorce his principles from the milieu in which they were formed. Why are so afraid of the context, Sherry? Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember you as one of the crowd urging full disclosure about Obama. Can't have it both ways, kid, and be a person of integrity.
I'm not part of a crowd. You keep distracting from the principles by pretending that they are part of one religious faith. Just because you know the history of the author, doesn't mean you're unable to examine the principles for their worth apart from any one individual. You just keep trying to find ways to avoid doing so. That's your choice, but you're being insincere.
Sherry, you are showing some fraying around the edges.
Yes, you did say we had to know all about Obama. Do you now deny that?
I have examined them, Sherry, and they cannot stand alone from their context.
Why are you so afraid of the context?
Sherry has a fail.
She will not discuss these principles out of context, because if she does, then she will be forced to defend them within their religious context. End of story.
Excellent book, a must read.Here's a 'Atlas Shrugged' by Ayn Rand.
It's a fictional philosophical book about a dystopian United States and the people who refuse to be exploited by society.
I've read this novel a few times in my life and am currently reading it again. Warning to all. It's not a light read. It's long, deep and philosophical. But definitely worth it. Absolute classic.
