bond market going haywire

[wimpy77]

what should have been a goody day was brought down by the freaking bond market going ape shit.

 

[DavidS]

what should have been a goody day was brought down by the freaking bond market going ape shit.

Please explain further - what do you mean by "going ape shit?"

 

[Oddball]

Everything is going to keep going ape shit, as long as Barry Obolshevik keeps printing up money.

 

[wimpy77]

what should have been a goody day was brought down by the freaking bond market going ape shit.

Please explain further - what do you mean by "going ape shit?"

ill post a link



Slumping Treasury bond prices send stocks lower - Yahoo! Finance

it also looks like mortage rates are going up again as well. i think at this point the fed (like it or not) have done all they can do at this point.

 

[wimpy77]

Everything is going to keep going ape shit, as long as Barry Obolshevik keeps printing up money.

looks like another moronic idiot to add to my ignore list.

 

[Oddball]

Wow...What a stinging fact-packed rebuttal!!

 

[Annie]

Everything is going to keep going ape shit, as long as Barry Obolshevik keeps printing up money.

And messing with bankruptcy laws. The union businesses are going to find it very difficult to garner investors. Good thing they took over the banks first.

 

[Oddball]

Right....All of which upsets the natural ebb and flow of money in the markets.

But leave it to the know-it-all technocrat meddlers to think that "just one more" intervention in and distortion of the marketplace will "fix" everything, despite zero evidence to suggest so.

 

[wimpy77]

hey toro, paulie or david wanna explain to the lamen what this means in english

New Worry for Stocks: Treasury Selloff Pushing Up Interest Rates - Market Insider with Patti Domm - CNBC.com

 

[Paulie]

hey toro, paulie or david wanna explain to the lamen what this means in english

New Worry for Stocks: Treasury Selloff Pushing Up Interest Rates - Market Insider with Patti Domm - CNBC.com

I only know a small percentage about the treasury market compared to Toro, and I'm not sure why you look to David, he doesn't know jack shit about the markets.

All I know is, things are not kosher despite whatever you hear in the media on any given day.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, and things are not going to be kosher for some time. Trying to head off the Second Great Republican Depression is not going to be easy.

 

[Paulie]

No, and things are not going to be kosher for some time. Trying to head off the Second Great Republican Depression is not going to be easy.

LOL, right, because only ONE party is to blame.

 

[Oddball]

Far as I can tell, it's not the republicans who're printing up trillions of dollars to cover their bailouts, election payola, and "economic stimulus".

 

[wimpy77]

Far as I can tell, it's not the republicans who're printing up trillions of dollars to cover their bailouts, election payola, and "economic stimulus".

you're a flat out idiot.

 

[wimpy77]

No, and things are not going to be kosher for some time. Trying to head off the Second Great Republican Depression is not going to be easy.

LOL, right, because only ONE party is to blame.

more than enough blame to go around. where the heck is toro nowadays anyways. i think we should be worried about the debt, but i read in an article that was quoted as saying on weeks like this when there is no news basically anything can throw the market.

from what i read in that cnbc article as i understood it even though the auction went well they basically sold the bonds so the fed would buy the higher slope yielding bonds. i could be very very wrong.

 

[Oddball]

Wow....Yet another stunning and cogent rebuttal from the wimpster!!

Well, at least your handle fits.

 

[Paulie]

No, and things are not going to be kosher for some time. Trying to head off the Second Great Republican Depression is not going to be easy.

LOL, right, because only ONE party is to blame.

more than enough blame to go around. where the heck is toro nowadays anyways. i think we should be worried about the debt, but i read in an article that was quoted as saying on weeks like this when there is no news basically anything can throw the market.

from what i read in that cnbc article as i understood it even though the auction went well they basically sold the bonds so the fed would buy the higher slope yielding bonds. i could be very very wrong.

Last I knew, the Fed WAS buying longer term treasuries. I also know that when the yield curve is this steep, it has always historically meant that recovery is on the way.

The argument can be made that THIS time around things are different, but then again the opposite could also be argued. It's not like this is the first time we've been buried in debt. Inflation makes it seem much higher compared to previous situations. This doesn't mean I condone it, though. The opposite, in fact. I DESPISE it.

 

[Oddball]

Last I knew, the Fed WAS buying longer term treasuries. I also know that when the yield curve is this steep, it has always historically meant that recovery is on the way.

The argument can be made that THIS time around things are different, but then again the opposite could also be argued. It's not like this is the first time we've been buried in debt. Inflation makes it seem much higher compared to previous situations. This doesn't mean I condone it, though. The opposite, in fact. I DESPISE it.

Maybe it's because the Fed is pretty much painted into a corner..The Chicoms are getting squeamish about taking any more T-bills, and the Fed has to keep pumping the cash out to keep their scam intact for as long as possible.

In the meantime, investors are going schitzo trying to find some safe haven for what's left of their money, trying to at least break even for the inflationary flood they know is coming.

That about cover it?

 

[wimpy77]

Wow....Yet another stunning and cogent rebuttal from the wimpster!!

Well, at least your handle fits.

try responding with more than partisan hackery.

 

[Oddball]

Try responding with something other than the reducto ad hominem.

Cuts both ways, Gomer.