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Look at the last post on page 3, Mod....got it for you.
Show me a link where he's caucused with the repubs. and considered becoming a repub?
In January 2007, Lieberman described himself as being "genuinely an Independent," saying "I agree more often than not with Democrats on domestic policy. I agree more often than not with Republicans on foreign and defense policy."[1]
Lieberman has toyed with the idea of switching his affiliation to Republican, especially if Senate Democrats go what he sees as too far in ending the War in Iraq.[83][84] In the 110th Congress, such a switch would have left the Senate equally divided, with Vice President Dick Cheney holding the tie-breaking vote.[85][86][87]
Enjoying your stay at the Waldorf Hysteria, Steph?
BS. The crisis was brought on by the reckless spending of both parties and Obamas innept attitude towards addressing it until the last minute.
Inept?
It's generally a bill that consists of one piece of paper.
The Tea Party chose to make this an issue about future spending.
Well, okay..if they are so concern about the debt..why no tax increases?
Cutting spending is just as bad as increasing taxes during a recovery.
And they don't seem to have a problem with cutting spending.
Because thats the root of the problem,SPENDING!!!
This not hard.Its a spending problem not a revenue problem.
will it be an easy pain free repair?? nope its going to be painful,for many,its unavoidable.
but blaming it on the group that the very least to do will bring us to where we are is well just stupid.
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"The entire existence of the Tea Party movement has been" promoted as "an attempt to stop the runaway spending of Washington". It is far more than that, including racists and sexists and fascist corporatists.
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Look at the last post on page 3, Mod....got it for you.
Show me a link where he's caucused with the repubs. and considered becoming a repub?
Political positions of Joe Lieberman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In January 2007, Lieberman described himself as being "genuinely an Independent," saying "I agree more often than not with Democrats on domestic policy. I agree more often than not with Republicans on foreign and defense policy."[1]
Lieberman has toyed with the idea of switching his affiliation to Republican, especially if Senate Democrats go what he sees as too far in ending the War in Iraq.[83][84] In the 110th Congress, such a switch would have left the Senate equally divided, with Vice President Dick Cheney holding the tie-breaking vote.[85][86][87]
Jackson, you got no action. The Tea Party is right there with Obama for the blame on this matter and the credit rating. Both the pres and the Tea Pots are going to get hammered next year for it, rightfully so.
When assigning blame to both parties, I would like to address this fact that liberals don't want you to know:
As bad as Bush and the Republicans were on spending, they NEVER went above 4% of GDP.
See that figure as of 2010? That's old. As of this new budget, Obama JUST DOUBLED that figure again. So, Obama quadrupled the size of spending (as compared to Bush) in 2010, and this new budget lets him take that quadrupled number of 10.64 AND DOUBLE THAT AGAIN!
Drudge report had it on their front page, that because of this new budget, we have now borrowed 100% of GDP!!!!!!!!!!!
You know that speech Obama gave today about how the rich need to "pay more" to balance the budget.
HE KNOWS AS OF NOW, THAT IF THE GOVERNMENT WERE TO CONFISCATE EVERY DIME IN THIS COUNTRY IT COULD NOT PAY OFF THE DEBT. Nor could it run this government over a few weeks.
This is how deep in trouble we are. It should scare the hell out of everyone.
There is no way a sane person can pin this on Bush. His spending was bad, but IT IS NO WHERE NEAR CLOSE TO OBAMA.
Comparing Bush spending to Obama spending is like comparing shoplifting to murder. One is bad, but ONE IS FAR, FAR WORSE.
Yes, the Republicans are equally to blame, but only in their UNWILLINGNESS to stand up to this crisis and do what's right. They care more about what the liberal media will say of them, than they care about the future of this country. In that, everyone in Washington is to blame.
Those numbers went up because revenues went down.
Did revenues go down during Bushes term? The % of debt to gdp did........
BS. The crisis was brought on by the reckless spending of both parties and Obamas innept attitude towards addressing it until the last minute.
Inept?
It's generally a bill that consists of one piece of paper.
The Tea Party chose to make this an issue about future spending.
Well, okay..if they are so concern about the debt..why no tax increases?
Cutting spending is just as bad as increasing taxes during a recovery.
And they don't seem to have a problem with cutting spending.
Cutting spending is just as bad as tax increases?????????
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Mitch McConnell himself called the Tea Partiers hostage takers.
John Boehner himself said the GOP got 98% of what they wanted in the budget deal...
...well, people, we are now living out the consequences of what happens when Republicans get a 98% win.
In OTHER WORDS, EXACTLY WHAT THE TEA PARTY SAID WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS BUDGET WAS PASSES HAS HAPPENED!
The Democrats screamed for compromise all during the Budget battle and when the new budget got us downgraded, Democrats screamed, "it's their fault!"
And yet, it's the Tea Party's fault for being right?
Hilarious!
If the dems were so concerned why didt they raise taxes when they had control??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Because they never really controlled Congress. Not only do they need a majority in the House but also 60 seat in the Senate for control. The Democrats never had 60 seats in the Senate. Furthermore ever heard of the Blue Dog Democrats and what they stand for?
58 democrats and 2 liberal independents....for all intents and purpose you had 60 in the senate.
If you could shove obamacare down everone's throat, raising taxes would have been a day at Disneyland.
The Tea Party isn't to blame, it's all the politicians over the last decade who is to blame. They just couldn't stop using the credit card that had no credit limit. So stop your damn finger pointing.
When Lieberman caucused and voted along with democrats over 90% of the time then yes, I do call him a liberal. I know he's no liberal enough for you, but few are liberal enough for you, Modbert.
You're making the assumption it seems that the Democrats as a whole are Liberal. Just because it's a Democrat vote doesn't necessarily mean it's a Liberal vote.
Got a link to where he caucuses with the Democrats over 90% of the time?
Too easy, Modbert. I hope you accept the NY Times site as authentic....I mean it's not "Faux News".
Lieberman votes with the Democrats 90 percent of the time, but he has always been a Scoop Jackson Democrat who early on broke with his party on defense issues. In the 1990s, he challenged party orthodoxy on school choice, entitlement reform and the place of religion in public life.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/opinion/21brooks.html
Those numbers went up because revenues went down.
Did revenues go down during Bushes term? The % of debt to gdp did........
Yes they did. Four times year over year.
When Lieberman caucused and voted along with democrats over 90% of the time then yes, I do call him a liberal. I know he's no liberal enough for you, but few are liberal enough for you, Modbert.
You're making the assumption it seems that the Democrats as a whole are Liberal. Just because it's a Democrat vote doesn't necessarily mean it's a Liberal vote.
Got a link to where he caucuses with the Democrats over 90% of the time?
Oh...side note....there are enough liberal democrats who shoved obamacare down our throats, so......if the shoe fits, wear it.
the tea party members used default as a bargaining chip - and for a while there it looked like they could actually do it.
they made people believe that the united states could actually willfully do itself the kind of harm that no sane country would even contemplate.
yes, the tea party is very much to blame for the downgrade - and it will be remembered.
You're making the assumption it seems that the Democrats as a whole are Liberal. Just because it's a Democrat vote doesn't necessarily mean it's a Liberal vote.
Got a link to where he caucuses with the Democrats over 90% of the time?
Oh...side note....there are enough liberal democrats who shoved obamacare down our throats, so......if the shoe fits, wear it.
If the democratic process is 'shoving it down our throats',
what ISN"T? How is the government supposed to function?