Black Privilege: Alive & Well In the Trump Era

[katsteve2012]

• Blacks have the right to take pride in their race. Whites don't.
• False: Blacks are trying to RESTORE pride in their race after having their race deemed the lowest under the system of white supremacy. Whites don't need to restore white pride under a system of white supremacy and domination.

• Blacks can never be racist. Whites are always racist, even if they don't try to be.
• False. Blacks can be racist depending on what definition of racism is used. What people are saying is that even if blacks were racist, the impact on whites is benign compared to the impact of white racism upon blacks. Lets say that America legalized black discrimination against whites. How would that hurt you? Black companies would not hire you? Black banks would not give you loans? Black developers would bar you from their developments? Now picture if America GAVE BACK the right for whites to discriminate against blacks....what would that deny blacks? Nearly everything. Lastly, no one has accused all whites of being racist. That is a lie.

• Blacks get to play the race card. Whites don't.
• False. Your post IS the race card. You just played it and whites invented it.

• Blacks never have to feel guilty about being black. Whites are trained to feel guilty about being white.
• Many blacks feel inferior, by being black, by conditioning of a system of white supremacy.

• Blacks have the right to make blacks only organizations like the Black Student Union and the Congressional Black Caucus. Whites don't.
• That is not a right anymore than good credit is a right. The fact that I can get a signature loan and some other person cannot is not a right, but an earned benefit. White only organizations historically had aims of oppressing and doing violence against blacks.

• Blacks have the right to never take responsibility for their own actions. Anything bad which happens to a black person can be blamed on racism or white people. Whites have to take responsibility and apologize for their actions.
• That is an opinion....not a fact. Prove it. Its a racist opinion, as well.

• Rich black people have a right to be rich. Rich white people don't.
• Rich black people are assumed to have got it via Affirmative Action. So no.

• Black people have the right to demonize white people. White people don't have the right to demonize black people.
• Whites constantly demonize black people as violent thugs and gangsters, while being offended when someone mentions the history of white racial oppression and how an has impacted current black behavior and economics.

• Black people are excused when they are prejudiced against white people. White people are never excused for prejudice against black people.
• Black peoples prejudice against whites is nearly always rooted in white mistreatment of blacks. White prejudice against blacks in rooted in a belief that blacks are innate inferior to whites.

• Black people are a "protected class." White people are not.
• White people were not oppressed by another race in this country and would not need to be protected. Whites have traditionally been the "predator class" that blacks needed protection from.

• Violent crimes by whites on blacks are "hate crimes." Violent crimes by blacks on whites are just "random" crimes.
• As well as they should be until proven otherwise. There are many crimes against blacks by whites that are never even said to be hate crimes. Basically....you are lying.

• Blacks have the right to affirmative action and minority set-asides. Whites have to earn their positions.
• It's not a right. Its an attempt to offset racial discrimination by whites and de facto white favoritism of whites.

• Blacks are "cool." Whites are "squares" and "rednecks."
• I agree.

• Blacks have the right to say words like "******," which whites are never allowed to use. They have the right to incessantly repeat the word "******" in front of white people, to intimidate them and keep them in their place.
• Self deprecation is a right white people have. Feel free to call yourselves racial epithets of your race....like blacks do. You just don't get the right deprecate black people because black people deprecate themselves.

• Blacks can make the most racially insensitive comments and, more often than not, no one blinks twice. They are allowed to insult others without repercussion.[1]
• No one really cares what people who they see as inferior thinks and says. That is why blacks can say whatever.

• Blacks can spend their rent money on designer handbags and then complain about how they don’t have the same economic opportunities as everyone else. And they get away with it.[2]
• Racist assumption.

• Black men are sexual supermen. White men are sexually inadequate. Black men have huge penises. White men have small, inadequate penises.
• Racial stereotype. Not a privilege. This stereotype has its origins with whites.

• Blacks have "civil rights". Whites don't.
• And whites have all the money and power. Want to switch? Everyone has civil rights, by the way.

• Blacks are in prison because of racism. Whites are in prison because they're criminals.
• No. Racism has created conditions where a higher percentage of blacks end up in prison than whites. That is not the same things as saying all blacks are in prison because of racism.

• Black jury members have the right to acquit criminals, if they're black.
• Your opinion.

• Blacks have the right to put a halt to any policy, statement, symbol, statistic, outcome, word or expression they find offensive. Whites have no such rights.
• That is because there is no history of words and policy oppressing whites and causing collective damage to your race

• Blacks are morally superior to whites.
• Who says that?

• "[Blacks] enjoy cultural cache around the world as victors over oppression and the hard reality of what that looks like at this point in world history. The music that they enjoy, the clothes that they wear, their very mannerisms carry a certain amount of gravitas."[3]
• That is not a privilege. That is you sounding jealous.

• Blacks can assign collective racial guilt to "you white folks." White Hople cannot do the reverse because that would be racist.
• Whites made that bed for themselves....now don't want to sleep in it.

• White people everywhere, and at all times, bear guilt for the crimes of a minority of white people in the past (e.g., slave owners, Adolf Hitler). Making blacks bear guilt, as a race, for the despicable crimes of their criminal minority is stereotyping, racist, and an insult to reason; after all, no one should ever be blamed for the acts of some unrelated person.
• Most whites did not own slaves......because they did not have the money to purchase them....not because of moral reason.

• Blacks have "black culture." Whites are not allowed to have white culture.
• Black culture is an emulation of white culture acted upon blacks and blacks emulated it. The only black culture is in Africa.

• African-American studies is a celebration of blackness and black culture. Whiteness studies is a demonization of white people and white culture.
• It's not a demonetization. Its just that you come out looking like demons when you tell the truth.

• White people need to undergo diversity/sensitivity training. Black people don't.
• Black people are not owning the companies that white people work in. Black people know white people better than white people know black people because blacks have to interact with whites because whites have most of the power and control.

• "... any generalization--favorable or unfavorable--about any minority that someone does not like is by definition "racist" and deserves to be suppressed--as long as it is said by a white person. Black diversity consultants, in contrast, can parade, without a shred of empirical evidence, the grossest racial and ethnic stereotypes with virtual impunity."[4]
• You started out saying Minority and then black.....not sure what you are trying to say.

• It's racist to point out racism by blacks. It's never racist to point out racism by whites.
• You can't just make up your own definition of words and use it against blacks. Whites constantly misuse the term when attempting to apply it to situation. Look the word up before you use it.

• Whites have to walk on eggshells around blacks. Blacks don't give a shit what whites think.
• Blacks do care about what whites thinks.....more than whites care about what blacks think. Blacks are always trying to prove themselves worthy in corporate settings.

• Blacks have the right to riot and commit violent acts in response to perceived grievances. White people have to obey the law at all times.
• BS. Antifa and other white groups riot and do all kinds of shit.

• Blacks have the right to never be portrayed as criminals or lowlifes in films or on TV. Bad guys on the screen must always be White.
• What planet do you live on? Total BS. Those are the awards blacks get nominations for.

• Blacks have the right to never be ridiculed, mocked, belittled or laughed at. Whites have no such right.
• BS. In your mind only.

• Black criminals have the right to have their race censored in media reports.
• Not saying the race censors whites as well. Its racist to always assume the perp is black, however.

• Facts which cause blacks embarrassment or cast them in a bad light must be suppressed. Facts which cause whites embarrassment or cast them in a bad light are reported as is.
• Give examples. You are making shit up.

• Blacks can silence and intimidate whites by calling them racist. Whites can't silence and intimidate blacks because that would be racist.
• Racist fear being exposed as racist. That is why whites are intimidated.

• Forcing whitey to apologize shows black power and clout. Whites can never force blacks to apologize because that would constitute a lynching.
• Forcing YTto pay reparations is the only show of power of clout.

• Whites are held to a system of 'sensitivity' requirements that do not apply to blacks.
• To whom much was given....much is expected.

• "Whites are monitored, pestered, and punished for preposterous reasons--for a look, for an innocent word, for wearing a T-shirt, for expressing a plausible argument--but blacks can say almost anything with perfect impunity."[5]
• Give examples. Just saying it does not make it truth.
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• In discussions of race between black people and white people the conscious black person is always right; is always the ultimate authority on questions having to do with race and racism; must always be regarded as the ‘injured party,’ or the oppressed. . . . [Whites] cannot possibly be expected to be objective about questions of race."[6]
• Its hard to have a defense against what the last 300 years has shown us about America.
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• Blacks may work for explicitly racial goals but whites may not.
• Blacks working for racial goals to lift blacks to parity. Whites working for racial goals can only mean preserving racial disparity.
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• Blacks are permitted to notice race. Whites are not.
• Just a racist opinion.
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• It is quite acceptable for either party to explicitly go after the black, Hispanic, or even the Jewish vote. In fact both parties gain an indispensable moral authority by doing so. But it is absolutely verboten for either party, or any white candidate, to appeal to whites as a racial identity group. Racial identity is simply forbidden to whites in America and across the entire Western world. Black children today are hammered with the idea of racial identity and pride, yet racial pride in whites constitutes a grave evil. Say 'I'm white and I'm proud' and you are a National Socialist."[7
• Blacks have been conditioned to believe they are inferior.....to offset that requires the affirmation of ones race. The white race runs the world. What do you need affirmation about?
• A black who punches a White person is a hero standing up to oppression. A White person who punches a black is a racist.
• LOL...you are really reaching.
• It can be publicly admitted that blacks are superior to Whites in certain pursuits (i.e. basketball). It can never be publicly admitted that Whites are superior to blacks in other pursuits (i.e. winning Nobel prizes in science).
• That is because those are white beliefs. Whites see blacks as superior in running and jumping and whites see blacks as inferior in thinking.
• When blacks are overrepresented in a desirable field, it is due to their abilities. When Whites are overrepresented in a desirable field, it is due to racism. When blacks are overrepresented in an undesirable field, it is due to racism. When Whites are overrepresented in an undesirable field, it is their own fault.
• Again, this is your own racist analysis. You are projecting.
• This lunacy has been around since the 1960's. Donald Trump being president has perhaps made a slight dent in it, but not much. He is called a racist, just about every day by looney leftist idiots, without the presentation of a shred of evidence.
• The racism has been around the last 400 years.

An excellent destruction of this lunacy about black privilege.

Undeniably. The crazy OP is too lazy/ignorant to dispute any of it.

It's much easier to claim to be a "victim".

All I ask for is full return for the taxes levied and the positions denied to raise people up for past wrongs. That has not happened. I did not make the rules. And the people who did, must have gotten paid off quite well.

Yes, reparations must be paid to all victims of Affirmative Action, to be paid by the perpetrators and supporters of it.

Not going to happen....EVER.

When the White House, whole Congress, and Supreme Court are in the hands of Republicans, it is GOING to happen, and you will be on the list of those who get sued and garnished.

Prepare. Your doomsday is coming, while Trump's approval rate keeps climbing.

Unlike you, I "prepared" quite well for retirement.

IF your heroes are elected and they gut Medicare and Social Security, your demise will come so quickly it will make your empty head swim.

Your bitter old carcass will end up living in a homeless shelter and eating maggots out of trashcans near some swamp in Florida.

That's the closest that you will ever get to any "reparations"

Ha ha. Like many liberals, you often go to ludicrous and dumb ideas to present your comments. There is as much chance of my heroes, or any politicians of gutting Medicare and Social Security (3rd rails of politics), as a cow jumping over the moon.

Everybody (except you maybe) knows that even slightly cutting them is political suicide.

And I don't use Medicare. I get 100% coverage from the VA, all free. Think they're going to gut that too, katstupid ?

So you have VA benefits? Good. We don't need anymore wackos like you wandering the streets due to not having access to mental health care.

But you also rely on social security by your own admission, right retard?

The chances for you ending up on the street are far better than you you getting reparations because of "AA"......which you will not.

Senate Republicans Set Sights On Cutting Social Security

 

[AKIP]

Hey, black folks out there. You don't need no Affirmative Action. You don't need no Black Privilege.

You all would be better off without that cheap stuff. When you get rid of it'll be like getting rid of an addicting drug. Maybe it's something that might have helped you out 50 years ago.

Now, you get jobs and education and respect all on your own,. All you need do is work for it, and you can succeed as well as anybody. And you got plenty of inspiration.

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Hey white people. You don't need all the things you historically took from peoples, like the free labor and the land you took from non-whites since you left Europe. Give it back and go back to Europe.

People seem to think that because Europe was in the dark ages until it embarked upon exploration of lands of non-white peoples, which they eventually "discovered", enslaved and colonized people, that this has something to do with the improvement of the standard of living of white peoples. I don't think that. I think if whites had all stayed in Europe, that Europe would have turned out just fine.....even though people were attempting to flee it's misery for the "new world",

Hey white people. You can do it! Give stuff back. You don't need it.

Problem with racist attacks like this, is how dumb they are. Very sorry to blow away your illusion of North American colonization of non-white people, but here in USMB, we do have a responsibility to the truth.

Despite what you might have seen in the movies, and what 19th century easterners read in dime store novels, in the overwhelming majority of cases, white settlers and American Indians lived many miles apart from each other. Most Indians never laid eyes on a white man their entire lives.

And the ones who did, were quite lucky. Best thing that ever happened to them. Go ask American Indians today if they're willing to give up living in solid wall houses, with indoor plumbing, installed heat & AC, automobile, TV, radio, stereo music, computers, and cell phones.

See how many are cool with going back to pre-European arrival conditions, which they still would be living under, if white Europeans had never came here. Before that, they didn't even have horses. What horses they had, were given or traded to them by whites., or stolen from the settlers.

Secondly, if we want to talk about colonization, the colonization of non-white people by whites, is long gone. The colonization that occurs today is by remittances$$$, done by immigrants from non-white nations, with mostly white nations are the victims. Biggest victim in 2020 ? The USA, at $140 Billion/year pillaged from our economy. Top perpetrators of this 21st century imperialism ? Mexico, China, India.

My statement was not contingent upon the role that official colonization played. The key points of my post were:

1. Whites NEEDING to flee all white Europe for better lives.
2. Whites taking the land, labor and resources of non-whites and transferring it into the trickle down system of white capitalistic economics.

Hence, its important to note the condition of the typical white person prior to whites leaving Europe for other parts of the world and the condition of the typical white person centuries after white colonization, the slave trade and imperialism. The land, labor and resources of non-white peoples FUELED growth for white peoples.

For any white person who fantasizes about what life would be like if not for troublesome blacks and others....there is no need to fantasize. It existed for a long time and the typical white person in that environment were miserable under pyramid shaped economic and social hierarchy in which the aristocracy and church were at the top while the poor masses were the base in a rigid class and religious hierarchy.

In regards to how far apart natives lived from white settlers....that is not germane. Natives roamed far and wide from where they lived, hunting. They had lots of territory as hunters. You are narrowly focused on where they lived. There economics....WAS TERRITORY to hunt.

 

[IM2]

Whites like no protection always have an excuse. They are incapable of taking responsibility for what has been done. Fortunately whites exist who can. It's just that in a forum like USMB, they are in the minority.

The continuance of this American government is an example of continuing white colonization and many American whites don't seem to understand that. Such is why no protection can claim that colonization has ended when Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand and places like that still exist.

 

[protectionist]

Wow, you are quite the victim here. I wish you had put your victim spin on the one about Trump being a racist, it's way down toward the bottom.

The term "victim" exists for a reason. I don't have a problem with you seeing the history of blacks being oppressed as victimization. That is what it was. I guess you would accuse the Kansas City Chiefs as having a "win" mentality for having won....huh? Who would have ever figured that winning would give a team a winning mentality...and being oppressed would cause a victim mentality? What an upside down world we live in.

What is upside down is blacks moronically going around calling themselves victims and oppressed, when they've been getting the royal treatment of preference for jobs, college, aid, loans, etc., and this has been going on for 50+ years.

No.it has not. Take ownership for your personal mediocrity as opposed to blaming it on others.

You really are deranged. You actually think you will achieve anything by saying that blacks have NOT been getting AA for 50+ years (royal treatment for preference of jobs, college admissions, college financial aid, job promotions, business loans, etc).

Denying facts that everybody knows, only confirms your status - GRADE A FOOL.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

 

[protectionist]

Hey, black folks out there. You don't need no Affirmative Action. You don't need no Black Privilege.

You all would be better off without that cheap stuff. When you get rid of it'll be like getting rid of an addicting drug. Maybe it's something that might have helped you out 50 years ago.

Now, you get jobs and education and respect all on your own,. All you need do is work for it, and you can succeed as well as anybody. And you got plenty of inspiration.

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Hey white people. You don't need all the things you historically took from peoples, like the free labor and the land you took from non-whites since you left Europe. Give it back and go back to Europe.

People seem to think that because Europe was in the dark ages until it embarked upon exploration of lands of non-white peoples, which they eventually "discovered", enslaved and colonized people, that this has something to do with the improvement of the standard of living of white peoples. I don't think that. I think if whites had all stayed in Europe, that Europe would have turned out just fine.....even though people were attempting to flee it's misery for the "new world",

Hey white people. You can do it! Give stuff back. You don't need it.

Problem with racist attacks like this, is how dumb they are. Very sorry to blow away your illusion of North American colonization of non-white people, but here in USMB, we do have a responsibility to the truth.

Despite what you might have seen in the movies, and what 19th century easterners read in dime store novels, in the overwhelming majority of cases, white settlers and American Indians lived many miles apart from each other. Most Indians never laid eyes on a white man their entire lives.

And the ones who did, were quite lucky. Best thing that ever happened to them. Go ask American Indians today if they're willing to give up living in solid wall houses, with indoor plumbing, installed heat & AC, automobile, TV, radio, stereo music, computers, and cell phones.

See how many are cool with going back to pre-European arrival conditions, which they still would be living under, if white Europeans had never came here. Before that, they didn't even have horses. What horses they had, were given or traded to them by whites., or stolen from the settlers.

Secondly, if we want to talk about colonization, the colonization of non-white people by whites, is long gone. The colonization that occurs today is by remittances$$$, done by immigrants from non-white nations, with mostly white nations are the victims. Biggest victim in 2020 ? The USA, at $140 Billion/year pillaged from our economy. Top perpetrators of this 21st century imperialism ? Mexico, China, India.

My statement was not contingent upon the role that official colonization played. The key points of my post were:

1. Whites NEEDING to flee all white Europe for better lives.
2. Whites taking the land, labor and resources of non-whites and transferring it into the trickle down system of white capitalistic economics.

Hence, its important to note the condition of the typical white person prior to whites leaving Europe for other parts of the world and the condition of the typical white person centuries after white colonization, the slave trade and imperialism. The land, labor and resources of non-white peoples FUELED growth for white peoples.

For any white person who fantasizes about what life would be like if not for troublesome blacks and others....there is no need to fantasize. It existed for a long time and the typical white person in that environment were miserable under pyramid shaped economic and social hierarchy in which the aristocracy and church were at the top while the poor masses were the base in a rigid class and religious hierarchy.

In regards to how far apart natives lived from white settlers....that is not germane. Natives roamed far and wide from where they lived, hunting. They had lots of territory as hunters. You are narrowly focused on where they lived. There economics....WAS TERRITORY to hunt.

Lots of words here. Very little pertaining to what I posted. No answer to my question.

Once again - would you like to see how many American Indians living today would like to go back to living in tents, and being without all the modern technologies they now have, only because white Europeans brought them or created them here ?

I'll check back for your answer later today/tonight. I have some music friends coming over here soon. I have more life than just USMB.

 

[AKIP]

Hey, black folks out there. You don't need no Affirmative Action. You don't need no Black Privilege.

You all would be better off without that cheap stuff. When you get rid of it'll be like getting rid of an addicting drug. Maybe it's something that might have helped you out 50 years ago.

Now, you get jobs and education and respect all on your own,. All you need do is work for it, and you can succeed as well as anybody. And you got plenty of inspiration.

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Hey white people. You don't need all the things you historically took from peoples, like the free labor and the land you took from non-whites since you left Europe. Give it back and go back to Europe.

People seem to think that because Europe was in the dark ages until it embarked upon exploration of lands of non-white peoples, which they eventually "discovered", enslaved and colonized people, that this has something to do with the improvement of the standard of living of white peoples. I don't think that. I think if whites had all stayed in Europe, that Europe would have turned out just fine.....even though people were attempting to flee it's misery for the "new world",

Hey white people. You can do it! Give stuff back. You don't need it.

Problem with racist attacks like this, is how dumb they are. Very sorry to blow away your illusion of North American colonization of non-white people, but here in USMB, we do have a responsibility to the truth.

Despite what you might have seen in the movies, and what 19th century easterners read in dime store novels, in the overwhelming majority of cases, white settlers and American Indians lived many miles apart from each other. Most Indians never laid eyes on a white man their entire lives.

And the ones who did, were quite lucky. Best thing that ever happened to them. Go ask American Indians today if they're willing to give up living in solid wall houses, with indoor plumbing, installed heat & AC, automobile, TV, radio, stereo music, computers, and cell phones.

See how many are cool with going back to pre-European arrival conditions, which they still would be living under, if white Europeans had never came here. Before that, they didn't even have horses. What horses they had, were given or traded to them by whites., or stolen from the settlers.

Secondly, if we want to talk about colonization, the colonization of non-white people by whites, is long gone. The colonization that occurs today is by remittances$$$, done by immigrants from non-white nations, with mostly white nations are the victims. Biggest victim in 2020 ? The USA, at $140 Billion/year pillaged from our economy. Top perpetrators of this 21st century imperialism ? Mexico, China, India.

My statement was not contingent upon the role that official colonization played. The key points of my post were:

1. Whites NEEDING to flee all white Europe for better lives.
2. Whites taking the land, labor and resources of non-whites and transferring it into the trickle down system of white capitalistic economics.

Hence, its important to note the condition of the typical white person prior to whites leaving Europe for other parts of the world and the condition of the typical white person centuries after white colonization, the slave trade and imperialism. The land, labor and resources of non-white peoples FUELED growth for white peoples.

For any white person who fantasizes about what life would be like if not for troublesome blacks and others....there is no need to fantasize. It existed for a long time and the typical white person in that environment were miserable under pyramid shaped economic and social hierarchy in which the aristocracy and church were at the top while the poor masses were the base in a rigid class and religious hierarchy.

In regards to how far apart natives lived from white settlers....that is not germane. Natives roamed far and wide from where they lived, hunting. They had lots of territory as hunters. You are narrowly focused on where they lived. There economics....WAS TERRITORY to hunt.

Lots of words here. Very little pertaining to what I posted. No answer to my question.

Once again - would you like to see how many American Indians living today would like to go back to living in tents, and being without all the modern technologies they now have, only because white Europeans brought them or created them here ?

I'll check back for your answer later today/tonight. I have some music friends coming over here soon. I have more life than just USMB.

First off, there are not many full blooded native Americans left after their land, culture and way of life was largely destroyed in some misguided attempts of pacifying and civilizing them.

Secondly, what poverty looks like in 2020 looks a lot different from what poverty looked like in 1820. A poor person in 2020 has much more than a rich person had in 1820 America....in terms of gadgets. Even you would not want to go back to what the typical white person had and how they were living in `1820....its not just Native Americans who would not want to go back.

Third and lastly, people are addicted to modernity....but don't necissarily need it. The earth contains all that humans need to survive and humans have been using the earth to survive....since humans existed. All you really need is productive land. However, private ownership of land, the pillar of capitalism, has allowed the few and governments control over most land. The race that owns most of the productive lands and their resources are white. It's like a monopoly board that was set up for whites to play....then they later allowed others to get in the game. What happens when you enter a monopoly game after it has been going on for some time? You are always landing on someone else property or you are being sent to jail.

 

[katsteve2012]

The term "victim" exists for a reason. I don't have a problem with you seeing the history of blacks being oppressed as victimization. That is what it was. I guess you would accuse the Kansas City Chiefs as having a "win" mentality for having won....huh? Who would have ever figured that winning would give a team a winning mentality...and being oppressed would cause a victim mentality? What an upside down world we live in.

What is upside down is blacks moronically going around calling themselves victims and oppressed, when they've been getting the royal treatment of preference for jobs, college, aid, loans, etc., and this has been going on for 50+ years.

No.it has not. Take ownership for your personal mediocrity as opposed to blaming it on others.

You really are deranged. You actually think you will achieve anything by saying that blacks have NOT been getting AA for 50+ years (royal treatment for preference of jobs, college admissions, college financial aid, job promotions, business loans, etc).

Denying facts that everybody knows, only confirms your status - GRADE A FOOL.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

 

[katsteve2012]

Hey, black folks out there. You don't need no Affirmative Action. You don't need no Black Privilege.

You all would be better off without that cheap stuff. When you get rid of it'll be like getting rid of an addicting drug. Maybe it's something that might have helped you out 50 years ago.

Now, you get jobs and education and respect all on your own,. All you need do is work for it, and you can succeed as well as anybody. And you got plenty of inspiration.

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Hey white people. You don't need all the things you historically took from peoples, like the free labor and the land you took from non-whites since you left Europe. Give it back and go back to Europe.

People seem to think that because Europe was in the dark ages until it embarked upon exploration of lands of non-white peoples, which they eventually "discovered", enslaved and colonized people, that this has something to do with the improvement of the standard of living of white peoples. I don't think that. I think if whites had all stayed in Europe, that Europe would have turned out just fine.....even though people were attempting to flee it's misery for the "new world",

Hey white people. You can do it! Give stuff back. You don't need it.

Problem with racist attacks like this, is how dumb they are. Very sorry to blow away your illusion of North American colonization of non-white people, but here in USMB, we do have a responsibility to the truth.

Despite what you might have seen in the movies, and what 19th century easterners read in dime store novels, in the overwhelming majority of cases, white settlers and American Indians lived many miles apart from each other. Most Indians never laid eyes on a white man their entire lives.

And the ones who did, were quite lucky. Best thing that ever happened to them. Go ask American Indians today if they're willing to give up living in solid wall houses, with indoor plumbing, installed heat & AC, automobile, TV, radio, stereo music, computers, and cell phones.

See how many are cool with going back to pre-European arrival conditions, which they still would be living under, if white Europeans had never came here. Before that, they didn't even have horses. What horses they had, were given or traded to them by whites., or stolen from the settlers.

Secondly, if we want to talk about colonization, the colonization of non-white people by whites, is long gone. The colonization that occurs today is by remittances$$$, done by immigrants from non-white nations, with mostly white nations are the victims. Biggest victim in 2020 ? The USA, at $140 Billion/year pillaged from our economy. Top perpetrators of this 21st century imperialism ? Mexico, China, India.

My statement was not contingent upon the role that official colonization played. The key points of my post were:

1. Whites NEEDING to flee all white Europe for better lives.
2. Whites taking the land, labor and resources of non-whites and transferring it into the trickle down system of white capitalistic economics.

Hence, its important to note the condition of the typical white person prior to whites leaving Europe for other parts of the world and the condition of the typical white person centuries after white colonization, the slave trade and imperialism. The land, labor and resources of non-white peoples FUELED growth for white peoples.

For any white person who fantasizes about what life would be like if not for troublesome blacks and others....there is no need to fantasize. It existed for a long time and the typical white person in that environment were miserable under pyramid shaped economic and social hierarchy in which the aristocracy and church were at the top while the poor masses were the base in a rigid class and religious hierarchy.

In regards to how far apart natives lived from white settlers....that is not germane. Natives roamed far and wide from where they lived, hunting. They had lots of territory as hunters. You are narrowly focused on where they lived. There economics....WAS TERRITORY to hunt.

Lots of words here. Very little pertaining to what I posted. No answer to my question.

Once again - would you like to see how many American Indians living today would like to go back to living in tents, and being without all the modern technologies they now have, only because white Europeans brought them or created them here ?

I'll check back for your answer later today/tonight. I have some music friends coming over here soon. I have more life than just USMB.

The same native American Indians that were driven to near extinction by the ghastly diseases that Europeans inflicted on them, would probably happily have kept their tents in exchange for their invaders getting off of their land.

 

[protectionist]

What is upside down is blacks moronically going around calling themselves victims and oppressed, when they've been getting the royal treatment of preference for jobs, college, aid, loans, etc., and this has been going on for 50+ years.

No.it has not. Take ownership for your personal mediocrity as opposed to blaming it on others.

You really are deranged. You actually think you will achieve anything by saying that blacks have NOT been getting AA for 50+ years (royal treatment for preference of jobs, college admissions, college financial aid, job promotions, business loans, etc).

Denying facts that everybody knows, only confirms your status - GRADE A FOOL.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

 

[protectionist]

Hey, black folks out there. You don't need no Affirmative Action. You don't need no Black Privilege.

You all would be better off without that cheap stuff. When you get rid of it'll be like getting rid of an addicting drug. Maybe it's something that might have helped you out 50 years ago.

Now, you get jobs and education and respect all on your own,. All you need do is work for it, and you can succeed as well as anybody. And you got plenty of inspiration.

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Hey white people. You don't need all the things you historically took from peoples, like the free labor and the land you took from non-whites since you left Europe. Give it back and go back to Europe.

People seem to think that because Europe was in the dark ages until it embarked upon exploration of lands of non-white peoples, which they eventually "discovered", enslaved and colonized people, that this has something to do with the improvement of the standard of living of white peoples. I don't think that. I think if whites had all stayed in Europe, that Europe would have turned out just fine.....even though people were attempting to flee it's misery for the "new world",

Hey white people. You can do it! Give stuff back. You don't need it.

Problem with racist attacks like this, is how dumb they are. Very sorry to blow away your illusion of North American colonization of non-white people, but here in USMB, we do have a responsibility to the truth.

Despite what you might have seen in the movies, and what 19th century easterners read in dime store novels, in the overwhelming majority of cases, white settlers and American Indians lived many miles apart from each other. Most Indians never laid eyes on a white man their entire lives.

And the ones who did, were quite lucky. Best thing that ever happened to them. Go ask American Indians today if they're willing to give up living in solid wall houses, with indoor plumbing, installed heat & AC, automobile, TV, radio, stereo music, computers, and cell phones.

See how many are cool with going back to pre-European arrival conditions, which they still would be living under, if white Europeans had never came here. Before that, they didn't even have horses. What horses they had, were given or traded to them by whites., or stolen from the settlers.

Secondly, if we want to talk about colonization, the colonization of non-white people by whites, is long gone. The colonization that occurs today is by remittances$$$, done by immigrants from non-white nations, with mostly white nations are the victims. Biggest victim in 2020 ? The USA, at $140 Billion/year pillaged from our economy. Top perpetrators of this 21st century imperialism ? Mexico, China, India.

My statement was not contingent upon the role that official colonization played. The key points of my post were:

1. Whites NEEDING to flee all white Europe for better lives.
2. Whites taking the land, labor and resources of non-whites and transferring it into the trickle down system of white capitalistic economics.

Hence, its important to note the condition of the typical white person prior to whites leaving Europe for other parts of the world and the condition of the typical white person centuries after white colonization, the slave trade and imperialism. The land, labor and resources of non-white peoples FUELED growth for white peoples.

For any white person who fantasizes about what life would be like if not for troublesome blacks and others....there is no need to fantasize. It existed for a long time and the typical white person in that environment were miserable under pyramid shaped economic and social hierarchy in which the aristocracy and church were at the top while the poor masses were the base in a rigid class and religious hierarchy.

In regards to how far apart natives lived from white settlers....that is not germane. Natives roamed far and wide from where they lived, hunting. They had lots of territory as hunters. You are narrowly focused on where they lived. There economics....WAS TERRITORY to hunt.

Lots of words here. Very little pertaining to what I posted. No answer to my question.

Once again - would you like to see how many American Indians living today would like to go back to living in tents, and being without all the modern technologies they now have, only because white Europeans brought them or created them here ?

I'll check back for your answer later today/tonight. I have some music friends coming over here soon. I have more life than just USMB.

The same native American Indians that were driven to near extinction by the ghastly diseases that Europeans inflicted on them, would probably happily have kept their tents in exchange for their invaders getting off of their land.

Another example of how deranged you are. Ho hum.

 

[IM2]

I am quite sure the native Americans were in a real hurry to live in log cabins and sod houses. And I hate to state the obvious to such an intelligent mind as no protection, but not all native Americans lived in tents.

 

[katsteve2012]

Hey white people. You don't need all the things you historically took from peoples, like the free labor and the land you took from non-whites since you left Europe. Give it back and go back to Europe.

People seem to think that because Europe was in the dark ages until it embarked upon exploration of lands of non-white peoples, which they eventually "discovered", enslaved and colonized people, that this has something to do with the improvement of the standard of living of white peoples. I don't think that. I think if whites had all stayed in Europe, that Europe would have turned out just fine.....even though people were attempting to flee it's misery for the "new world",

Hey white people. You can do it! Give stuff back. You don't need it.

Problem with racist attacks like this, is how dumb they are. Very sorry to blow away your illusion of North American colonization of non-white people, but here in USMB, we do have a responsibility to the truth.

Despite what you might have seen in the movies, and what 19th century easterners read in dime store novels, in the overwhelming majority of cases, white settlers and American Indians lived many miles apart from each other. Most Indians never laid eyes on a white man their entire lives.

And the ones who did, were quite lucky. Best thing that ever happened to them. Go ask American Indians today if they're willing to give up living in solid wall houses, with indoor plumbing, installed heat & AC, automobile, TV, radio, stereo music, computers, and cell phones.

See how many are cool with going back to pre-European arrival conditions, which they still would be living under, if white Europeans had never came here. Before that, they didn't even have horses. What horses they had, were given or traded to them by whites., or stolen from the settlers.

Secondly, if we want to talk about colonization, the colonization of non-white people by whites, is long gone. The colonization that occurs today is by remittances$$$, done by immigrants from non-white nations, with mostly white nations are the victims. Biggest victim in 2020 ? The USA, at $140 Billion/year pillaged from our economy. Top perpetrators of this 21st century imperialism ? Mexico, China, India.

My statement was not contingent upon the role that official colonization played. The key points of my post were:

1. Whites NEEDING to flee all white Europe for better lives.
2. Whites taking the land, labor and resources of non-whites and transferring it into the trickle down system of white capitalistic economics.

Hence, its important to note the condition of the typical white person prior to whites leaving Europe for other parts of the world and the condition of the typical white person centuries after white colonization, the slave trade and imperialism. The land, labor and resources of non-white peoples FUELED growth for white peoples.

For any white person who fantasizes about what life would be like if not for troublesome blacks and others....there is no need to fantasize. It existed for a long time and the typical white person in that environment were miserable under pyramid shaped economic and social hierarchy in which the aristocracy and church were at the top while the poor masses were the base in a rigid class and religious hierarchy.

In regards to how far apart natives lived from white settlers....that is not germane. Natives roamed far and wide from where they lived, hunting. They had lots of territory as hunters. You are narrowly focused on where they lived. There economics....WAS TERRITORY to hunt.

Lots of words here. Very little pertaining to what I posted. No answer to my question.

Once again - would you like to see how many American Indians living today would like to go back to living in tents, and being without all the modern technologies they now have, only because white Europeans brought them or created them here ?

I'll check back for your answer later today/tonight. I have some music friends coming over here soon. I have more life than just USMB.

The same native American Indians that were driven to near extinction by the ghastly diseases that Europeans inflicted on them, would probably happily have kept their tents in exchange for their invaders getting off of their land.

Another example of how deranged you are. Ho hum.

Another example of your mental impairment.

Pick up a history book and learn something. Even at your advanced age and compromised reasoning ability it is not too late.

 

[katsteve2012]

No.it has not. Take ownership for your personal mediocrity as opposed to blaming it on others.

You really are deranged. You actually think you will achieve anything by saying that blacks have NOT been getting AA for 50+ years (royal treatment for preference of jobs, college admissions, college financial aid, job promotions, business loans, etc).

Denying facts that everybody knows, only confirms your status - GRADE A FOOL.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

No.it has not. Take ownership for your personal mediocrity as opposed to blaming it on others.

You really are deranged. You actually think you will achieve anything by saying that blacks have NOT been getting AA for 50+ years (royal treatment for preference of jobs, college admissions, college financial aid, job promotions, business loans, etc).

Denying facts that everybody knows, only confirms your status - GRADE A FOOL.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

The fact that I am appalled by your abject stupidity and inability to make a fact based statement does not make me a "liberal", nor am I extreme right wing nutjob like you.

Any fool can throw around numbers like "hundreds of millions", or refer to "small percentages", and be vague, but insist on that they are right, which is your method of circular, childish reasoning.

Anyone knows that "fish can swim", you damn fool, but there is no credible source that supports your ridiculous way of carelessly throwing around numbers like "hundreds of millions" without any proof that they are even nearly correct.

You labeling anyone who calls you out for making statements that are untrue and not based on any sensible fact based information a "liberal" is a weak counterpoin that just further exposes that you are either conscientiously stupid or willfully ignorant...or even worse, BOTH.

 

[katsteve2012]

I am quite sure the native Americans were in a real hurry to live in log cabins and sod houses. And I hate to state the obvious to such an intelligent mind as no protection, but not all native Americans lived in tents.

Correct.

https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures

 

[MizMolly]

Hey, black folks out there. You don't need no Affirmative Action. You don't need no Black Privilege.

You all would be better off without that cheap stuff. When you get rid of it'll be like getting rid of an addicting drug. Maybe it's something that might have helped you out 50 years ago.

Now, you get jobs and education and respect all on your own,. All you need do is work for it, and you can succeed as well as anybody. And you got plenty of inspiration.

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Hey white people. You don't need all the things you historically took from peoples, like the free labor and the land you took from non-whites since you left Europe. Give it back and go back to Europe.

People seem to think that because Europe was in the dark ages until it embarked upon exploration of lands of non-white peoples, which they eventually "discovered", enslaved and colonized people, that this has something to do with the improvement of the standard of living of white peoples. I don't think that. I think if whites had all stayed in Europe, that Europe would have turned out just fine.....even though people were attempting to flee it's misery for the "new world",

Hey white people. You can do it! Give stuff back. You don't need it.

They gave that back a long time ago. Get a fucking job and buy your own land, there is nothing stopping you. It's a lot easier than trying to get whites to donate land to you because of some ancient shit between their ancestors and yours.

No they haven't. And since most whites are on land the government gave to them. perhaps you need to start listening to what AKIP says. The ancient shit is what you benefit from today.

Most whites are on land the government gave to them? What a load of bullshit.

 

[protectionist]

I am quite sure the native Americans were in a real hurry to live in log cabins and sod houses. And I hate to state the obvious to such an intelligent mind as no protection, but not all native Americans lived in tents.

Oh, I guess they lived in ,
20 room mansions, huh ? And I'm sure the American Indians (of any era) would just love to give up solid walled houses (including log cabins) to go live in tents. They're just dying to trade in their cars, TVs, stereos, indoor plumbing, AC, and computers, for bows&arrows, mocassins, and beads.

Is there a doctor in the house ? I mean really.

 

[protectionist]

I am quite sure the native Americans were in a real hurry to live in log cabins and sod houses. And I hate to state the obvious to such an intelligent mind as no protection, but not all native Americans lived in tents.

Correct.

https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures

Make that 2 doctors. Please hurry. These are advanced cases of massive delusion.

 

[protectionist]

You really are deranged. You actually think you will achieve anything by saying that blacks have NOT been getting AA for 50+ years (royal treatment for preference of jobs, college admissions, college financial aid, job promotions, business loans, etc).

Denying facts that everybody knows, only confirms your status - GRADE A FOOL.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

You really are deranged. You actually think you will achieve anything by saying that blacks have NOT been getting AA for 50+ years (royal treatment for preference of jobs, college admissions, college financial aid, job promotions, business loans, etc).

Denying facts that everybody knows, only confirms your status - GRADE A FOOL.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

The fact that I am appalled by your abject stupidity and inability to make a fact based statement does not make me a "liberal", nor am I extreme right wing nutjob like you.

Any fool can throw around numbers like "hundreds of millions", or refer to "small percentages", and be vague, but insist on that they are right, which is your method of circular, childish reasoning.

Anyone knows that "fish can swim", you damn fool, but there is no credible source that supports your ridiculous way of carelessly throwing around numbers like "hundreds of millions" without any proof that they are even nearly correct.

You labeling anyone who calls you out for making statements that are untrue and not based on any sensible fact based information a "liberal" is a weak counterpoin that just further exposes that you are either conscientiously stupid or willfully ignorant...or even worse, BOTH.

You are so much of a moron, that you can't even see that not only are my statements "fact based" (although not according to your simple-minded, and limited definition of "facts"), my facts are also very OBVIOUS facts - to anyone not programmed into liberal mind control.

So for all you robots out there, unable to see anything beyond your little "statistical proof" (from liberal sources of course), there is nothing MORE "sensible" than ascertaining things with your senses (like your EYES). So when you have gone through dozens of visits to 2 VA hospitals, for years, + 2 govt job centers, and seens thousands of minority employees, and almost no whites, that is the most sensible statistical proof you can ever get, and undeniable, as opposed to agenda-driven, contrived bullshit in liberal "reports", which have little or no fundamental guard against invalidity.

But you are too deep into the programming to figure that basic truth out. Of course hundreds of millions of whites have been victimized by Affirmative Action. It's existed for 59 years, and EVERY white person in America, living through these years has been in the category of benefit denial, whether they applied for that job, college financial aid, etc or not

Counting all whites living from 1961 to 2020, all born, lived, and died during that time, is of course, hundreds of millions. There are almost hundreds of millions of whites (197 million) just living right now in America. God, you are stupid.

 

[katsteve2012]

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

The fact that I am appalled by your abject stupidity and inability to make a fact based statement does not make me a "liberal", nor am I extreme right wing nutjob like you.

Any fool can throw around numbers like "hundreds of millions", or refer to "small percentages", and be vague, but insist on that they are right, which is your method of circular, childish reasoning.

Anyone knows that "fish can swim", you damn fool, but there is no credible source that supports your ridiculous way of carelessly throwing around numbers like "hundreds of millions" without any proof that they are even nearly correct.

You labeling anyone who calls you out for making statements that are untrue and not based on any sensible fact based information a "liberal" is a weak counterpoin that just further exposes that you are either conscientiously stupid or willfully ignorant...or even worse, BOTH.

You are so much of a moron, that you can't even see that not only are my statements "fact based" (although not according to your simple-minded, and limited definition of "facts"), my facts are also very OBVIOUS facts - to anyone not programmed into liberal mind control.

So for all you robots out there, unable to see anything beyond your little "statistical proof" (from liberal sources of course), there is nothing MORE "sensible" than ascertaining things with your senses (like your EYES). So when you have gone through dozens of visits to 2 VA hospitals, for years, + 2 govt job centers, and seens thousands of minority employees, and almost no whites, that is the most sensible statistical proof you can ever get, and undeniable, as opposed to agenda-driven, contrived bullshit in liberal "reports", which have little or no fundamental guard against invalidity.

But you are too deep into the programming to figure that basic truth out. Of course hundreds of millions of whites have been victimized by Affirmative Action. It's existed for 59 years, and EVERY white person in America, living through these years has been in the category of benefit denial, whether they applied for that job, college financial aid, etc or not

Counting all whites living from 1961 to 2020, all born, lived, and died during that time, is of course, hundreds of millions. There are almost hundreds of millions of whites (197 million) just living right now in America. God, you are stupid.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

The fact that I am appalled by your abject stupidity and inability to make a fact based statement does not make me a "liberal", nor am I extreme right wing nutjob like you.

Any fool can throw around numbers like "hundreds of millions", or refer to "small percentages", and be vague, but insist on that they are right, which is your method of circular, childish reasoning.

Anyone knows that "fish can swim", you damn fool, but there is no credible source that supports your ridiculous way of carelessly throwing around numbers like "hundreds of millions" without any proof that they are even nearly correct.

You labeling anyone who calls you out for making statements that are untrue and not based on any sensible fact based information a "liberal" is a weak counterpoin that just further exposes that you are either conscientiously stupid or willfully ignorant...or even worse, BOTH.

You are so much of a moron, that you can't even see that not only are my statements "fact based" (although not according to your simple-minded, and limited definition of "facts"), my facts are also very OBVIOUS facts - to anyone not programmed into liberal mind control.

So for all you robots out there, unable to see anything beyond your little "statistical proof" (from liberal sources of course), there is nothing MORE "sensible" than ascertaining things with your senses (like your EYES). So when you have gone through dozens of visits to 2 VA hospitals, for years, + 2 govt job centers, and seens thousands of minority employees, and almost no whites, that is the most sensible statistical proof you can ever get, and undeniable, as opposed to agenda-driven, contrived bullshit in liberal "reports", which have little or no fundamental guard against invalidity.

But you are too deep into the programming to figure that basic truth out. Of course hundreds of millions of whites have been victimized by Affirmative Action. It's existed for 59 years, and EVERY white person in America, living through these years has been in the category of benefit denial, whether they applied for that job, college financial aid, etc or not

Counting all whites living from 1961 to 2020, all born, lived, and died during that time, is of course, hundreds of millions. There are almost hundreds of millions of whites (197 million) just living right now in America. God, you are stupid.

Isn't it bedtime in the asylum yet? Everyone knows the population totals, just like everyone (except you) realizes that EVERYONE of any race has not benefitted or suffered from one single law that has been signed into effect.


In 1961, black citizens did not even have the same basic rights of citizenship in southern states as white citizens, and affirmative action had not even been implemented.

No type of "doctor" could help you, except one who performs lobotomies or euthanasia.

You are flat out nuts.

 

[katsteve2012]

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

The fact that I am appalled by your abject stupidity and inability to make a fact based statement does not make me a "liberal", nor am I extreme right wing nutjob like you.

Any fool can throw around numbers like "hundreds of millions", or refer to "small percentages", and be vague, but insist on that they are right, which is your method of circular, childish reasoning.

Anyone knows that "fish can swim", you damn fool, but there is no credible source that supports your ridiculous way of carelessly throwing around numbers like "hundreds of millions" without any proof that they are even nearly correct.

You labeling anyone who calls you out for making statements that are untrue and not based on any sensible fact based information a "liberal" is a weak counterpoin that just further exposes that you are either conscientiously stupid or willfully ignorant...or even worse, BOTH.

You are so much of a moron, that you can't even see that not only are my statements "fact based" (although not according to your simple-minded, and limited definition of "facts"), my facts are also very OBVIOUS facts - to anyone not programmed into liberal mind control.

So for all you robots out there, unable to see anything beyond your little "statistical proof" (from liberal sources of course), there is nothing MORE "sensible" than ascertaining things with your senses (like your EYES). So when you have gone through dozens of visits to 2 VA hospitals, for years, + 2 govt job centers, and seens thousands of minority employees, and almost no whites, that is the most sensible statistical proof you can ever get, and undeniable, as opposed to agenda-driven, contrived bullshit in liberal "reports", which have little or no fundamental guard against invalidity.

But you are too deep into the programming to figure that basic truth out. Of course hundreds of millions of whites have been victimized by Affirmative Action. It's existed for 59 years, and EVERY white person in America, living through these years has been in the category of benefit denial, whether they applied for that job, college financial aid, etc or not

Counting all whites living from 1961 to 2020, all born, lived, and died during that time, is of course, hundreds of millions. There are almost hundreds of millions of whites (197 million) just living right now in America. God, you are stupid.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

You are a pathological, delusional, disingenuous liar.

I never stated that NO blacks have ever benefitted from affirmative action.

In fact, two of your conservative heroes, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas both did a long time ago.

I stated that it HAS NOT been on the scale that you allege that it has.

In your non functioning mind, ANY black person who has experienced ANY degree of success, HAD to be at the expense of a white person, which is complete made up bullshit on your part.

When the law was passed, it certainly did not change anything overnight.

Even a feeble minded moron like you should know that.

There is no statistical proof that whites were displaced in college admissions, the workforce or even in the acquisition of business loans by blacks on a large scale because of AA.

The comparative percentage of blacks in America who are admitted to colleges, hold positions of responsibility in the workforce and even those who obtain business loans DOES NOT reflect what you claim.


But it IS a documented fact that after AA went into effect and gender was incorporated into the law, white females benefitted from it more than any other demographic, and have since.

Now, what lie are you going to tell next, "Pinnochio"?

See what I mean folks? There it is. Plain as day. Yet another liberal demand for "statistical proof". Haha. So if a liberal think tank, liberal media, or liberal university doesn't say so, in an "official" report, then it just ain't so, according to katstupe, and every other liberal. This is how their minds work, and what they confine themselves to.

Never mind the REAL proof of REALITY, in the form of thousands of people working in VA hospitals and govt job offices. Never mind that you couldn't find a white male employee there, if your life depended on it. Nope. To libs like ks, that doesn't qualify as "proof". Not when he's got all that "statistical proof" (from liberal sources) that his liberal mentors have programmed him to flash at us.

As for the white females benefitting from AA, I have refuted that dopey, hollow talking point so many times I've lost count. Once again, white females beneficiaries of AA are a tiny % of all white females who are victims by virtue of their white male husbands, fathers, and sons, and this includes the white female recipients of AA, who are both beneficiaries and victims, simultaneously.

I'm not a liberal, you dunce.

Statistical information is what the country runs on you idiot.


Just because you have an "opinion" that does not make it a fact.

You would look much less stupid than you are if you provided FACTS as opposed to what you imagine to be true.

You sound like the kind of nut that has never read a book or are even a part of real society.

And you can try appealing to "others" to support your idiocy if you wish.

So far, no one is.

You're a liberal, and like all other liberals, you're programmed to see society by way of statistical "information", rather than seeing life going on right before your eyes.

If somebody asked you to prove fish can swim, you'd go look up some reports somewhere. You guys don't realize how bent you are.

The fact that I am appalled by your abject stupidity and inability to make a fact based statement does not make me a "liberal", nor am I extreme right wing nutjob like you.

Any fool can throw around numbers like "hundreds of millions", or refer to "small percentages", and be vague, but insist on that they are right, which is your method of circular, childish reasoning.

Anyone knows that "fish can swim", you damn fool, but there is no credible source that supports your ridiculous way of carelessly throwing around numbers like "hundreds of millions" without any proof that they are even nearly correct.

You labeling anyone who calls you out for making statements that are untrue and not based on any sensible fact based information a "liberal" is a weak counterpoin that just further exposes that you are either conscientiously stupid or willfully ignorant...or even worse, BOTH.

You are so much of a moron, that you can't even see that not only are my statements "fact based" (although not according to your simple-minded, and limited definition of "facts"), my facts are also very OBVIOUS facts - to anyone not programmed into liberal mind control.

So for all you robots out there, unable to see anything beyond your little "statistical proof" (from liberal sources of course), there is nothing MORE "sensible" than ascertaining things with your senses (like your EYES). So when you have gone through dozens of visits to 2 VA hospitals, for years, + 2 govt job centers, and seens thousands of minority employees, and almost no whites, that is the most sensible statistical proof you can ever get, and undeniable, as opposed to agenda-driven, contrived bullshit in liberal "reports", which have little or no fundamental guard against invalidity.

But you are too deep into the programming to figure that basic truth out. Of course hundreds of millions of whites have been victimized by Affirmative Action. It's existed for 59 years, and EVERY white person in America, living through these years has been in the category of benefit denial, whether they applied for that job, college financial aid, etc or not

Counting all whites living from 1961 to 2020, all born, lived, and died during that time, is of course, hundreds of millions. There are almost hundreds of millions of whites (197 million) just living right now in America. God, you are stupid.

Isn't it bedtime in the asylum yet? Everyone knows the population totals, just like everyone (except you) realizes that EVERYONE of any race has not benefitted nore suffered from one single law that was signed into effect.


In 1961, black citizens did not even have the same basic rights of citizenship in southern states as white citizens, and affirmative action had not even been fully implemented.




UnderstandingPrejudice.org: Ten Myths About Affirmative Action