Black people, White people

Many have no desire to vote for the aristocracy who have taken steadily diminished their exit plan over a generation of disparity engineered to their coffers from our labor

but you'd need to subscribe to my definition of slavery , which doesn't necessarily include chains or flogging

perspective peeps!

~S~
 
Finally, 389,000 Africans were sent to America by 1808. By the Civil War, there were 4 million. The importation of slaves was made illegal in 1808, but there were ten times the number of slaves in America by 1860 than were imported here from Africa. So if we want to play along with dumb whiteness then Africans were responsible for 389,000 slaves. The moron has pointed out that all such trading was documented. So then how did the 3.61 million additional slaves end up in America by 1860?
Well, you see, when a Daddy Slave loves a Mommy Slave very much, they make little slaves... this should have been taught to you at an early age.

Slave breeding. And blacks did not control that industry. 10 times more blacks were produced by slave breeding than whatever Africans "sold" to whites. So it's time to drop these sorry excuses and face your history.

So are you saying black slaves wouldn't have screwed if white people hadn't told them to?

"They...they.... they ... made me have sex!!!!"

What we see here is the standard white racist revised history of the transatlantic slave trade as taught in place like stormfront, National Vanguard, The Daily Stormer and other white supremacist websites. Blacks did not load up ships full of captives and take them to Europe for sale. Nor were Africans waiting on the west African coast with slaves for purchase when the Europeans showed up on shore. Whites were not coerced by Africans to purchase captives, so whites didn't have to purchase them. Africans did not make slavery legal in America.

So let's be honest what DID happen..

When the Europeans started colonizing the Americas, their first go-to was to enslave the indigenous people. Why import people when you can just enslave the people who were already there. The problem was that European Diseases cut swaths of death through the Native American nations. Some civilizations, such as the North American Mound Builders, were wiped out before they even saw a white man.

So Africans were imported for some 200 years before the US Became independent. And, yes, when the slaves got here, they had babies.. which was cheaper than importing more new people who had to be broken in.

But funny thing, IM. No one alive today owned a slave.
 
Many have no desire to vote for the aristocracy who have taken steadily diminished their exit plan over a generation of disparity engineered to their coffers from our labor

but you'd need to subscribe to my definition of slavery , which doesn't necessarily include chains or flogging

perspective peeps!

~S~
Most Americans have voted for that since the first election.
 
No stretch. It is a truth white fragility does not allow you to accept. And after formal slavery ended, whites continued with Jim Crow Apartheid. Your list is irrelevant and you use it to dodge what whites have done here. Your argument is like the child who gets caught by their parents stealing saying that other kids do it too. This discussion is about white racism her. Whataboutism doesn't cut it.
I am not dodging shit. American slavery has been over for 160 years while Jim Crow- a Democrat legacy- has been over for 60 years. You choose to perpetuate both while non- whites worldwide perpetuate the actual practice of enslaving non-whites today as we speak. Supposedly, slavery is something you abhor but only if it’s being done by whites in America.

The list is very relevant. The non-white nations and numbers of slaves speaks for itself. America is nowhere to be found on the list.
 
Doesn't that tired dodge get old? It certainly has for me. These scrubs tell everybody else to take responsibility, but they don't want to take any themselves.
We want blacks TODAY to take responsibility for themselves in terms of reducing their illegitimacy and violent crime rates. Why should whites TODAY take responsibility for what other people did generations ago?

That is EXACTLY the same type of hateful thinking as saying Jews today should take responsibility for what a small band of them did involving Jesus 2000 years ago - and we see that people do that.
 
Nope. They were Jewish sugar planters from Brazil.
What antisemitic Muslim rag did you read that in? Jews were no more involved in slavery than non-Jews. Blaming Jews for slavery, or hinting that they were at the forefront of it, is a classic Islamic lie right out of the mouth of Farrakhan.

 
That is not true.
There are tons of written logs and bill of sales that still exist today.
We know the names of almost every slave trader from the era, as well as black traders.
Slaves had to have a bill of sale, and everyone insisted on well kept documentation in case they ever needed to prove ownership.

There are extensive records of ships, their owners, captains and cargo.
 
What antisemitic Muslim rag did you read that in? Jews were no more involved in slavery than non-Jews. Blaming Jews for slavery, or hinting that they were at the forefront of it, is a classic Islamic lie right out of the mouth of Farrakhan.


In 1654 twenty three Jews arrived in New Amsterdam with their slaves from Brazil.

 
In 1654 twenty three Jews arrived in New Amsterdam with their slaves from Brazil.

There were slaves in America well before that. Why do you identify a Jewish family from another country who came here with their slaves, after slavery was ALREADY in force for decades, as the “first” American slaveowners?

The Christians in Virginia were the first slave owners in America. But no…..you skip until decades later when Brazilian Jews with slaves came here, and call THEM the first slave owners.

Spreading antisemitic lies is shameful.
 
That’s a good point and plenty of Africans owned slaves. Same with folks of history all over the world in various continent.

That's a lie.

 
There were slaves in America before that. Why do you identify Jews from another country who came here with their slaves, after slavery was ALREADY in force for decades, as the “first” American slaveowners?

The Christians in Virginia were the first slave owners in America.

 
Yeah…..you already said that. That doesn’t make Jews the first slaveowners in America. What a lie!

It mean that a small percentage of Jews owned slaves in other countries, just like Christians did, and a little group of them moved here. That doesn’t make them the first slaves-owners in America!

Please don’t perpetuate antisemitic lies spread by the likes of Muslims like Farrakhan.
 
surada

This is a thread about blacks and whites, and right on cue you jump in with your antisemitic lie about Jews being the first slaveowners in America.

So WHAT if a rich Jewish family immigrated here from Brazil decades after slavery was in effect, and took with them their own slaves? Why zero in on Jews? They were no more involved with slavery than Christians - and in both cases, only a small percentage was at that.

Please stop spreading antisemitic lies. They obviously come from your Muslim education in the Middle East.
 
Yeah…..you already said that. That doesn’t make Jews the first slaveowners in America. What a lie!

It mean that a small percentage of Jews owned slaves in other countries, just like Christians did, and a little group of them moved here. That doesn’t make them the first slaves-owners in America!

Please don’t perpetuate antisemitic lies spread by the likes of Muslims like Farrakhan.

They were sugar planters in Brazil. They didn't bring ALL their slaves with them. They had to leave Brazil because the Dutch and Portuguese lost to the English.

 
They were sugar planters in Brazil. They didn't bring ALL their slaves with them. They had to leave Brazil because the Dutch and Portuguese lost to the English.

So? You claimed the first slaveowners in America were Jewish! That was a lie. I caught you in it, and so now you’re trying to redirect the subject.

Admit it: the first slaveowners in America were Christians, and not Jews as you originally said.
 
Leave it to a Muslim sympathizer like Surada to take a thread havimg nothing to do with Jews, and use it to cast dispersions on Jewish people by repeating a Farrakhan lie.
 
Nope. They were Jewish sugar planters from Brazil.
That’s the first I’ve heard of this…. Ironic given that Jews themselves were slaves. One thing I am certain…. There is no way scurvy-ridden, swashbuckling, overweight western white men went into Africa regularly and “ took” or captured Black Africans. If this was a regular practice, wouldn’t this essentially had been a war with casualties?

Western Whites purchased Black Slaves from Black African slave traders. At least ONE of the first American slave owners was Black.
 
That’s the first I’ve heard of this…. Ironic given that Jews themselves were slaves. One thing I am certain…. There is no way scurvy-ridden, swashbuckling, overweight western white men went into Africa regularly and “ took” or captured Black Africans. If this was a regular practice, wouldn’t this essentially had been a war with casualties?

Western Whites purchased Black Slaves from Black African slave traders. At least ONE of the first American slave owners was Black.
It’s a Surada lie. She came up with a rich Jewish family who emigrated from Brazil to America DECADES after the first slave ship arrived in Virginia, and then claims Jews were the first American slaveowners. Tells you a little about what type of anti-Jew propaganda she reads.

And to your point, yes….the first people who owned black slaves were black themselves. They were the Africans who captured them, and then sold them.
 
It’s a Surada lie. She came up with a rich Jewish family who emigrated from Brazil to America DECADES after the first slave ship arrived in Virginia, and then claims Jews were the first American slaveowners. Tells you a little about what type of anti-Jew propaganda she reads.

And to your point, yes….the first people who owned black slaves were black themselves. They were the Africans who captured them, and then sold them.
Thank you for the insight and clarification. The Muslims of the North African Coast were massive enslavers; including, white Christians.
 

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