Birth Control and Penile Implants

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    For those that are so militantly opposed to insurance coverage for birth control, why are you okay with insurance coverage for penile implants? Birth control actually has some medical uses beyond contraception (it's very useful for the treatment of endometriosis, for example), while penile implants don't have a medical use beyond defining the ability to have sex as a medical use.
     
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    because that would effect men, and republicans care about men.
     
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    Are you making assumptions based on stereotypes?
     
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    I don't see protesters marching around demanding government stop funding penile implants...
     
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    GOP: Government so small, it'll fit in your vagina.
     
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    We are not opposed to all ins. paying for birth control. Even though you can get it for very cheap any where.We are against forcing religious insurance groups to pay for them.
    It's a first amendment issue.
     
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    You think that we need 5 different departments that do the same thing and none of them know what the others are doing?
     
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    Except no one is forcing religious groups to pay for them.
     
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    Just because you have a problem telling the difference between the use of medical treatment to restore normal body function and taking a pill so one can have more carefree sex doesn't mean this is an impairment the rest of us suffer from. Medical treatment for endometriosis is covered. Medical treatment for ANY physical impairment that interferes with normal body function for a man or a woman is covered. I have an issue with idiots who think there is some kind of legitimate comparison between a man who has no sexual function due to illness, injury or necessary medication to treat another condition - and a woman who has normal body function and merely wants to screw with a more carefree mind and thinks that somehow makes it my problem instead of hers!

    This is a contrived, phony issue. Health insurance doesn't cover male contraceptives which is the ONLY legitimate comparison and gee, Democrats aren't insisting society owes it to men to foot their bill for it so they too can screw with a more carefree attitude, are they? We are not talking about a product that is difficult or expensive but we are talking about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. I agree restoring body function so someone can have a normal sex life -man or woman-should AND IS- covered by healthcare. There are medical conditions that interfere with a woman's ability to have a normal sex life -ALL covered by health insurance. That has NEVER been an issue. Restoring an individual to normal or as near normal function as possible is the entire point of medical care, and when it isn't possible, insuring they are comfortable, given treatment to be as pain free as possible and allows them to reach as near normal as possible for their highest quality of life. Birth control pills work by impairing normal body function, not by restoring it. The use of birth control pills to treat a specific medical condition is covered but insurance companies aren't stupid. There are only a couple of medical conditions where birth control pills would be among the treatment of choice and those only then for a limited period of time, not forever! And NO medical condition exists where there is no other effective treatment except birth control pills. In addition those medical conditions can and must be verified by testing for medical documentation. And it's covered. Just imagine-doctors have known how to do this for decades! Which is why it isn't doctors pretending women are being denied coverage when birth control pills are used to treat legitimate medical problems!

    Aside fom that, your entire argument falls apart when insisting only female contraception should be covered but still have no problem insisting men bear the burden of paying their own way if they want to have more carefree sex. Equality doesn't involve gender based special privileges and it is a deception to pretend this is anything but gender based privilege that is not equally available to men. Sorry but contraception is always a personal responsibility, involves personal desires and wishes and is not "healthcare".
     
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    And, lushbo's fave drug to smuggle, Viagra ...

    Its okay to pay to make him hard enough to impregnate a woman but its not okay to keep her from getting pregnant.

    That's rw logic for you.
     

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