Bin Laden is dead.........General Motors is alive

[Fang]

What else do you need to know?

The death of GM has merely been pushed off into the future, where when it finally does go tits up, the damage will be far worse than if it had been allowed to die when it should have. But, the powers that be, don't seem to care to look to the future. They think they can keep staving off disaster by playing silly games and taxing the middle class out of existence.

The problem is Obama didn't let capitalism work the way its supposed to.

If I'm not mistaken FORD didn't take any bailout money. What about other American car companies that didn't take bailout money? If GM was allowed to die when it was supposed to then the other companies would have received more sales. Better sales means more money and more money means more jobs for the companies doing well. Plus the companies actually making decent cars would have had more money for research.

Bailing out GM could have set the quality of American made cars back decades.

 

[EriktheRed]

Thanks....just what I wanted to hear

I really hope Republicans emphasize that in the next election. Explain to America why we all would be better off if the Auto industry had been allowed to collapse

Because it has allready collapsed. Now, when it finally really happens it will not just be the auto industry it will be all sorts of other industries as well. They have all had to give money (that they didn't have) to an industry that has failed.

had the industry been allowed to fail naturally, the companies could have gotten out of the union contracts that are killing them, they could have then restructiured, got rid of the dead weight and started fresh. Now, failure has been rewarded, just like the pricks on Wall Street, nothing has been learned, just like Wall Street, and it will happen again only worse.

Nice job lefty, what could have been a managed depression, will now most likely devolve into a hyperinflationary spiral violence will ensue, and thousands or millions will die who other wise wouldn't have.

On the unlikely but possible side, there will be a real good chance that a revolution would begin and hopefully the good guys will win that.

The auto industry must be destroyed to save it!

Please........please run on that in the next election

Don't ya understnd, RW? We need to get rid of those pesky unions and other commie things those miserable leftists acheived which helped build the middle class in this country because in order to compete we have to get to where working people in this country live like our counterparts in the 3rd world. Now, STFU and move your ass into the compound where you can get paid in company money.

 

[westwall]

Because it has allready collapsed. Now, when it finally really happens it will not just be the auto industry it will be all sorts of other industries as well. They have all had to give money (that they didn't have) to an industry that has failed.

had the industry been allowed to fail naturally, the companies could have gotten out of the union contracts that are killing them, they could have then restructiured, got rid of the dead weight and started fresh. Now, failure has been rewarded, just like the pricks on Wall Street, nothing has been learned, just like Wall Street, and it will happen again only worse.

Nice job lefty, what could have been a managed depression, will now most likely devolve into a hyperinflationary spiral violence will ensue, and thousands or millions will die who other wise wouldn't have.

On the unlikely but possible side, there will be a real good chance that a revolution would begin and hopefully the good guys will win that.

The auto industry must be destroyed to save it!

Please........please run on that in the next election

Don't ya understnd, RW? We need to get rid of those pesky unions and other commie things those miserable leftists acheived which helped build the middle class in this country because in order to compete we have to get to where working people in this country live like our counterparts in the 3rd world. Now, STFU and move your ass into the compound where you can get paid in company money.

The unions have destroyed the shipping industry in the US. Prior to the 1960s the US had one of the largest merchant marine fleets in the world. Now we trail behind Greece of all countries! They are ranked 4th to our 10th.

The US now has a SINGLE steamship company (Matson Lines), in the '60's there were over 25. Ask ANY merchant sailor what happened and they will tell you the unions killed the companies. My dad was a truckdriver for 40 years and his company was killed by yet another Teamster strike. And this when it was pointed out to the Teamsters that 25% of the work force wasn't working.

Fuck the unions.

 

[Trajan]

Anyone else remember ObamaMotors? As the Republicans mockingly called it?

Conservatives stood death watch over GM, waiting for it to fail so they could mock Obamas foolish bailout.

Now GM is back to being the number one automaker in the world

you are a refugee from reason and fact. enjoy the view.

 

[The T]

The auto industry must be destroyed to save it!

Please........please run on that in the next election

Don't ya understnd, RW? We need to get rid of those pesky unions and other commie things those miserable leftists acheived which helped build the middle class in this country because in order to compete we have to get to where working people in this country live like our counterparts in the 3rd world. Now, STFU and move your ass into the compound where you can get paid in company money.

The unions have destroyed the shipping industry in the US. Prior to the 1960s the US had one of the largest merchant marine fleets in the world. Now we trail behind Greece of all countries! They are ranked 4th to our 10th.

The US now has a SINGLE steamship company (Matson Lines), in the '60's there were over 25. Ask ANY merchant sailor what happened and they will tell you the unions killed the companies. My dad was a truckdriver for 40 years and his company was killed by yet another Teamster strike. And this when it was pointed out to the Teamsters that 25% of the work force wasn't working.

Fuck the unions.

^This. I concur.

 

[The T]

Funny, if we left it to Republicans, it would be the other way around.

If we left it to you we would get Stalin back. I'll take my chances with the idiotic republicans.

And even the present incarnation of the Republicans is suspect as they fill the void left by Democrats that have been taken over by Marxist/Communists.

 

[Trajan]

What else do you need to know?

I need to know what the media reaction would be if he chest thumped over bin laden like obama has and screwed pensions and bond funds while flooding a losing co. with taxpayer dollars like say, Haliburton or Koch Industries etc....

I bet I can guess...

 

[Political Junky]

That's a good one

Why don't you have Mitt Romney run on that one

I expect the next part of history that the Repubs will try to change is 911 occurred under Clinton....or maybe that Africans asked to be captured and turned to slaves. I think they are working on the latter right now.

we had THE first world trade center bombing under Clinton, so just maybe 9/11 is his fault for not going after Bin Laden, eh? or that's just too much for you lefties to wrap your hero worshiping around.

1993 World Trade Center bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1993 World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York City. The 1,336 lb (606 kg) urea nitrate–hydrogen gas enhanced device[1] was intended to knock the North Tower (Tower One) into the South Tower (Tower Two), bringing both towers down and killing thousands of people.[2][3] It failed to do so, but did kill six people and injured more than a thousand.[4] The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing: Abouhalima, Ajaj, Ayyad and Salameh. The charges included conspiracy, explosive destruction of property and interstate transportation of explosives. In November 1997, two more were convicted: Yousef, the mastermind behind the bombings, and Eyad Ismoil, who drove the truck carrying the bomb.

 

[IndependntLogic]

What else do you need to know?

When will the rest of the taliban who want us dead be dead? When will someone other than the government be able to spot GM enough cash to buy a new car?

Wait. So things will only be okay when absolutely everyone on the planet who has a grudge with the US is dead?
Glad you're keepin' the ol' standards realistic!

Not sure what you meant by the GM comment as it was rather nebulous but historically speaking, bailing out GM was good for the taxpayer, bailing out the banks was bad.

 

[daveman]

I expect the next part of history that the Repubs will try to change is 911 occurred under Clinton....or maybe that Africans asked to be captured and turned to slaves. I think they are working on the latter right now.

we had THE first world trade center bombing under Clinton, so just maybe 9/11 is his fault for not going after Bin Laden, eh? or that's just too much for you lefties to wrap your hero worshiping around.

1993 World Trade Center bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1993 World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York City. The 1,336 lb (606 kg) urea nitrate–hydrogen gas enhanced device[1] was intended to knock the North Tower (Tower One) into the South Tower (Tower Two), bringing both towers down and killing thousands of people.[2][3] It failed to do so, but did kill six people and injured more than a thousand.[4] The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing: Abouhalima, Ajaj, Ayyad and Salameh. The charges included conspiracy, explosive destruction of property and interstate transportation of explosives. In November 1997, two more were convicted: Yousef, the mastermind behind the bombings, and Eyad Ismoil, who drove the truck carrying the bomb.

Clinton treated an act of war as a crime. All he did was embolden Al Qaeda.

 

[The T]

we had THE first world trade center bombing under Clinton, so just maybe 9/11 is his fault for not going after Bin Laden, eh? or that's just too much for you lefties to wrap your hero worshiping around.

1993 World Trade Center bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1993 World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York City. The 1,336 lb (606 kg) urea nitrate–hydrogen gas enhanced device[1] was intended to knock the North Tower (Tower One) into the South Tower (Tower Two), bringing both towers down and killing thousands of people.[2][3] It failed to do so, but did kill six people and injured more than a thousand.[4] The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing: Abouhalima, Ajaj, Ayyad and Salameh. The charges included conspiracy, explosive destruction of property and interstate transportation of explosives. In November 1997, two more were convicted: Yousef, the mastermind behind the bombings, and Eyad Ismoil, who drove the truck carrying the bomb.

Clinton treated an act of war as a crime. All he did was embolden Al Qaeda.

As does Obama and the KSM mess where KSM comitted an act of war and Obama/Holder want to prosecute him like a domestic thug.

AQ are laughing at that shit.

 

[whitehall]

What else do you need to know?

That's all you need to know about today's left anyway. They don't even know who the freaking enemy is.

 

[The T]

What else do you need to know?

That's all you need to know about today's left anyway. They don't even know who the freaking enemy is.

Neither does RightwingShitflinger. He seems to applaud our enemies.

 

[EriktheRed]

The auto industry must be destroyed to save it!

Please........please run on that in the next election

Don't ya understnd, RW? We need to get rid of those pesky unions and other commie things those miserable leftists acheived which helped build the middle class in this country because in order to compete we have to get to where working people in this country live like our counterparts in the 3rd world. Now, STFU and move your ass into the compound where you can get paid in company money.

The unions have destroyed the shipping industry in the US. Prior to the 1960s the US had one of the largest merchant marine fleets in the world. Now we trail behind Greece of all countries! They are ranked 4th to our 10th.

The US now has a SINGLE steamship company (Matson Lines), in the '60's there were over 25. Ask ANY merchant sailor what happened and they will tell you the unions killed the companies. My dad was a truckdriver for 40 years and his company was killed by yet another Teamster strike. And this when it was pointed out to the Teamsters that 25% of the work force wasn't working.

Fuck the unions.

Your local "job creator" thanks you. Now get the fuck back to work. Oh, and we're gonna cut your pay and benefits again. STFU about it or we'll move to Mexico/China.

 

[The T]

Don't ya understnd, RW? We need to get rid of those pesky unions and other commie things those miserable leftists acheived which helped build the middle class in this country because in order to compete we have to get to where working people in this country live like our counterparts in the 3rd world. Now, STFU and move your ass into the compound where you can get paid in company money.

The unions have destroyed the shipping industry in the US. Prior to the 1960s the US had one of the largest merchant marine fleets in the world. Now we trail behind Greece of all countries! They are ranked 4th to our 10th.

The US now has a SINGLE steamship company (Matson Lines), in the '60's there were over 25. Ask ANY merchant sailor what happened and they will tell you the unions killed the companies. My dad was a truckdriver for 40 years and his company was killed by yet another Teamster strike. And this when it was pointed out to the Teamsters that 25% of the work force wasn't working.

Fuck the unions.

Your local "job creator" thanks you. Now get the fuck back to work. Oh, and we're gonna cut your pay and benefits again. STFU about it or we'll move to Mexico/China.

Yeah in the mold of Jeffery Immelt...Obama's advisor.

Good Form

IDIOT.

 

[daveman]

1993 World Trade Center bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1993 World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York City. The 1,336 lb (606 kg) urea nitrate–hydrogen gas enhanced device[1] was intended to knock the North Tower (Tower One) into the South Tower (Tower Two), bringing both towers down and killing thousands of people.[2][3] It failed to do so, but did kill six people and injured more than a thousand.[4] The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing: Abouhalima, Ajaj, Ayyad and Salameh. The charges included conspiracy, explosive destruction of property and interstate transportation of explosives. In November 1997, two more were convicted: Yousef, the mastermind behind the bombings, and Eyad Ismoil, who drove the truck carrying the bomb.

Clinton treated an act of war as a crime. All he did was embolden Al Qaeda.

As does Obama and the KSM mess where KSM comitted an act of war and Obama/Holder want to prosecute him like a domestic thug.

AQ are laughing at that shit.

Leftists simply aren't serious about national security.

 

[The T]

Clinton treated an act of war as a crime. All he did was embolden Al Qaeda.

As does Obama and the KSM mess where KSM comitted an act of war and Obama/Holder want to prosecute him like a domestic thug.

AQ are laughing at that shit.

Leftists simply aren't serious about national security.

Instead they invite them to over-run the Country. Just look at the borders.

 

[dblack]

Clinton treated an act of war as a crime. All he did was embolden Al Qaeda.

As does Obama and the KSM mess where KSM comitted an act of war and Obama/Holder want to prosecute him like a domestic thug.

AQ are laughing at that shit.

Leftists simply aren't serious about national security.

Given that they follow the same stupid fucking policies as the "rightists", I'd have to agree.

 

[jillian]

As does Obama and the KSM mess where KSM comitted an act of war and Obama/Holder want to prosecute him like a domestic thug.

AQ are laughing at that shit.

Leftists simply aren't serious about national security.

Given that they follow the same stupid fucking policies as the "rightists", I'd have to agree.

Dave seems to have lost his ability to engage in anything but a flame.

But you aren't quite right either. Security is important. Pretend wars of choice, not so much. Combat troops are out of Iraq. Hopefully the same will be done with regard to Afghanistan. And don't hear deems shrieking "bomb bomb bomb Iran". Military action, if any, would be a last resort.

So, saying everyone but for isolationists is the same isn't correct or honest. The alternative to "bomb bomb bomb Iran" can't be naive isolationism

 

[Listening]

Biden got it right

That would be a first.