Missourian
Diamond Member
I got one, just say this:
All humans must be treated equally under any law written and upheld by a state or regional government within the United States of America.
Even minors?
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I got one, just say this:
All humans must be treated equally under any law written and upheld by a state or regional government within the United States of America.
Everyone is guaranteed to any right that does not infringe on another's.
Why?Everyone is guaranteed to any right that does not infringe on another's.
that is an impossibility.
Why?Everyone is guaranteed to any right that does not infringe on another's.
that is an impossibility.
Socialismso who provides all that...sounds like communism
The ism's is why everyone should watch the ISM cartoon from fifty years ago.
Our greatest president, Franklin D. Roosevelt, already wrote what I can hardly improve on. And out of these economic rights, as I have noted in another thread, grow all the things we most admire and keep us safe. You could tack on the "Golden Rule" for good measure, a universal rule but like all rules....
"The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education."
"All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
Americas own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens."
Franklin D. Roosevelt: "The Economic Bill of Rights"
Let's assume for purposes of this discussion that we were going to revisit the Bill of Rights in order to rectify the ambiguity and variability of interpretations that have been caused by the passage of time.
If we were starting with a clean sheet of paper and laying out a set of individual rights, as plainly and clearly as possible, what should be included?
The ism's is why everyone should watch the ISM cartoon from fifty years ago.
That reminded me of what the voters have done to the GOP, throw them outta town!
"Freedom" though is simply an abstraction, out of real context it is same as any ism or other meaningfulness slogan.
FDR's words from the above URL take into account reality, not the abstract ideas that failed this country these past 20 years. Pragmatism is key not worship of vague concepts that failed.
"It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our peoplewhether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenthis ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.
This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rightsamong them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, howeveras our industrial economy expandedthese political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for allregardless of station, race, or creed."
IU'd definitely seek to clearly spell out the rights of gun owers.
The way it's written now is clear as mud.
Our greatest president, Franklin D. Roosevelt, already wrote what I can hardly improve on. And out of these economic rights, as I have noted in another thread, grow all the things we most admire and keep us safe. You could tack on the "Golden Rule" for good measure, a universal rule but like all rules....
"The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education."
"All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
Americas own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens."
Franklin D. Roosevelt: "The Economic Bill of Rights"
Being me does not give me the 'right' to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation; Being American affords me many opportunities for employment. If we choose our rules carefully, I have the man-made right to a fair marketplace.
Being me does not give me the 'right' to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation; Being American affords me many choices and opportunities for earning a living. If we choose our rules carefully, I have the man-made right to a fair and transparent marketplace.
Being me does not give me the 'right' to raise and sell products at a return which will give me and my family a decent living; Being American affords me the opportunity to use my land as I see fit and pray for the right combination of planning, rain and sunshine to profit from my labor. If we choose our rules carefully, I have the man-made right to a fair and open marketplace to buy my supplies as well as to sell my produce.
If we choose our rules carefully, I have the man-made right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
Being me does not give me or my family the 'right' to a decent home; Being American affords me opportunity and choices to make a home of my choosing that is within my means. If we choose our rules carefully, I have the man-made right to fair, transparent and well labeled markets to buy and / or build a home within.
Being me does not give me the 'right' to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health; Being American does not mean you are guaranteed service from any industry, including healthcare. Being American affords me the opportunity to succeed or fail in my own health management. If we choose our rules carefully, I have the man-made right to an open and transparent healthcare marketplace. If we choose our rules carefully, I have the man-made right to pay the healthcare industry directly for care received, without being penalized for not using insurance. Being American affords me the opportunity to help others who may have been born unlucky in health matters.
Being me does not give me the 'right' to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment; Being American affords me the opportunity to participate in various pools of insurance funds against losses, not the least of which is Social Security, mandated because enough of us, at one point in time, agreed that it should be.
Being me does not give me the 'right' to a good education. Being American affords me opportunities for education. If America wants to remain a place of many opportunities, America must choose to provide more opportunities for education than will be taken advantage of, and provide planning for education on a regional basis.
There are no 'rights', only choices and consequences. Life is not fair... it sucks but we, as a species, will reach the stars sooner that way.
Can we relax and make the most of life while following the golden rules? (Notice that there are no golden rights in this life)
-Joe