Biden's America: NY Hotels Evict Struggling Homeless War Veterans to Make Room for Illegal Aliens

[Meister]

They have crossed the border in order to claim refugee status, and that makes them refugees. That is the law. They cannot claim refugee status from outside the country, and if your border is closed, there is no legal way for them to come in.

They still have to go through the legal process for claiming refugee status. They aren't doing that, and our borders are not closed,

THEY ARE ILLEGALS!

No matter what you think....THEY ARE ILLEGALS

 

[Dragonlady]

They still have to go through the legal process for claiming refugee status. They aren't doing that, and our borders are not closed,

THEY ARE ILLEGALS!

No matter what you think....THEY ARE ILLEGALS

They are doing that or they wouldn’t be in the country in these programs or on these buses.

Why do you persist in believing the bullshit and lies Republicans tell you about immigrants.

 

[Meister]

They are doing that or they wouldn’t be in the country in these programs or on these buses.

Why do you persist in believing the bullshit and lies Republicans tell you about immigrants.

We have an administration who is encouraging it. That DOES NOT MAKE IT LEGAL.

Maybe in your authoritarian country. But, it is not LEGAL here.

 

[protectionist]

Probably doesn't matter. If Repubs get all the concessions they want the vets won't be able to afford the rooms.

But of course this is all just speculation.

"She said the hotels didn’t explicitly say the vets had to move because of the migrants but that it was clear to her that was the case, given the timing."

The "timing" so it must be true. Lol.

Lastly, what the heck is up with you source? I think that is a blog site, not a news site.

When I checked the story, there were about 50 sites reporting this story. You want to see all of them ?

 

[protectionist]

They have crossed the border in order to claim refugee status, and that makes them refugees. That is the law. They cannot claim refugee status from outside the country, and if your border is closed, there is no legal way for them to come in.

Donald Trump created the mess at the border and then cut all of the courts and immigration services and visa applications and any legal means for anyone to come in from a non-white country. That’s a violation of human rights and your laws.

NO, it is NOT a violation of human rights, and Trump did a lot to PROTECT Americans from the HARMS of illegal immigration.

Biden is who has been violating immigration law, by throwing open the border, and due to the outrageous abuse of it, asylum law should be eliminated entirely.

 

[Catsnmeters]

When I checked the story, there were about 50 sites reporting this story. You want to see all of them ?

Just one or two is fine. Thank you.

 

[Dragonlady]

NO, it is NOT a violation of human rights, and Trump did a lot to PROTECT Americans from the HARMS of illegal immigration.

Biden is who has been violating immigration law, by throwing open the border, and due to the outrageous abuse of it, asylum law should be eliminated entirely.

Trump was hiring illegal immigrants to work at his golf clubs. He did nothing to protect you from illegal immigration.

Trump’s policies created the spike in illegal border crossings. As soon as he stopped prosecuting employers and the “Now hiring” signs went up the numbers started climbing. Trump needed to increase illegal border crossings to get Congressional funding to build the wall.

You don’t need a wall when the illegal crossings are at their lowest levels in 50 years.

Border crossing spiked, Fox News went on an editorial rampage, Trump signed an emergency declaration, and Congress funded his wall.

 

[John09]

They still have to go through the legal process for claiming refugee status.

They're not seeking refugee status, they are seeking asylum. Huge difference.

THEY ARE ILLEGALS!

No matter what you think....THEY ARE ILLEGALS

Asylum laws allow folks to seek asylum status after entering the country. Even if they enter illegally, they are no longer illegal once they ask for asylum, since their cases are pending. But, yes, they are illegal until they ask for asylum.

 

[John09]

Too, it turns out this entire story was bullshit.

Over the past week, a sensational story has torn through local and national media: A local nonprofit said homeless veterans under its care had been kicked out of upstate hotels to make room for migrants bused from New York City. But the story has fallen apart over the past 48 hours, culminating Thursday evening with state Assemblyman Brian Maher, R-Walden, who had been advocating for the veterans in national media and in the state Legislature, denouncing it as false in a call with the Times Union.
Maher said he was “devastated and disheartened” after a conversation with the CEO of the nonprofit earlier in the day revealed that the story wasn’t true. He is calling for the organization to be investigated by the state attorney general’s office and the Orange County district attorney.

“This is something I believe hurt a lot of people,” Maher said.

The story began to unravel Wednesday when Mid Hudson News reported that the manager of the Newburgh hotel that had purportedly displaced veterans had no dealings with the nonprofit.

Story of homeless veterans displaced by migrants was false

Assemblyman Brian Maher, a Walden Republican, said he learned Thursday that the...

www.timesunion.com

 

[Meister]

They're not seeking refugee status, they are seeking asylum. Huge difference.


Asylum laws allow folks to seek asylum status after entering the country. Even if they enter illegally, they are no longer illegal once they ask for asylum, since their cases are pending. But, yes, they are illegal until they ask for asylum.

Not by running across the border illegally, John. Even they have a process. They are illegals, and most are using the asylum status BS
as gimmick.

 

[John09]

Not by running across the border illegally, John. Even they have a process. They are illegals, and most are using the asylum status BS
as gimmick.

Your opinion about it being a gimmick is irrelevant to their legal classification. They can legally apply for asylum status after entering illegally. Period.

The laws changed May 11, '23. FYI.

FYI, here is the change in law. As clearly stated, exceptions to the rule remain.

Effective May 11, 2023, the U.S. government will generally presume individuals who unlawfully enter the United States through its southwest land border or adjacent coastal borders are ineligible for asylum, unless they can demonstrate an exception to the rule or rebut the presumption. Unaccompanied children will be exempted from this presumption. For more information, see the final rule.

Obtaining Asylum in the United States | USCIS

ALERT: Court Order on Circumvention of Lawful Pathways Final Rule On Aug

www.uscis.gov

The page has more info on how to apply for asylum.

 

[Unkotare]

They have crossed the border in order to claim refugee status, and that makes them refugees. That is the law. They cannot claim refugee status from outside the country, and if your border is closed, there is no legal way for them to come in.

Donald Trump created the mess at the border and then cut all of the courts and immigration services and visa applications and any legal means for anyone to come in from a non-white country. That’s a violation of human rights and your laws.

You are confusing "refugee" and "asylum seeker." Again.

 

[Dragonlady]

They're not seeking refugee status, they are seeking asylum. Huge difference.


Asylum laws allow folks to seek asylum status after entering the country. Even if they enter illegally, they are no longer illegal once they ask for asylum, since their cases are pending. But, yes, they are illegal until they ask for asylum.

“Asylum” is the same thing as “refugee status”. No difference at all.

Once they claim refugee status, they are legally in the country. They cannot claim asylum or refugee status, unless they are standing on American soil.

They must present themselves to a government official as soon as they cross the border. No delays.

 

[Unkotare]

“Asylum” is the same thing as “refugee status”. No difference at all.

...

Wrong.

 

[Dragonlady]

Wrong.

In the context of crossing the border to claim refugee status, asylum and refugee status are the same thing.

If you’re seeking to avoid arrest, you can seek asylum in the church, but that is not the same thing as crossing the border and asking for asylum.

 

[John09]

“Asylum” is the same thing as “refugee status”. No difference at all.

Once they claim refugee status, they are legally in the country.

There's a huge difference not just by classification, but monetarily as well.

They can not seek refugee status after entering the country. Refugees also don't get to choose which country they go to, having gone through UNHCR. They become refugees outside this country and are resettled by resettlement agencies funded by PRM, which is a part of the State Dept. Refugees get money to resettle, a total of $1250/refugee, IIRC, while asylum seekers get none. All folks who enter as refugees are automatically eligible for green cards in a year and don't have to pay to get green cards and citizenship. Asylum seekers have no such guarantee and have to pay even if their applications are approved.

Asylum seekers don't get the benefits that refugees do. They can NOT seek refugee status after entering the country. Asylum seekers choose which country to go to and try and enter that country and get asylum status.

They cannot claim asylum or refugee status, unless they are standing on American soil.

I agree with this as it applies to asylum seekers, who can only claim asylum status while on American soil, or in an American embassy abroad.

They must present themselves to a government official as soon as they cross the border. No delays.

Yes.

Refugees and Asylum​

Refugee status or asylum may be granted to people who have been persecuted or fear they will be persecuted on account of race, religion, nationality, and/or membership in a particular social group or political opinion.​

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Refugees​

Refugee status is a form of protection that may be granted to people who meet the definition of refugee and who are of special humanitarian concern to the United States. Refugees are generally people outside of their country who are unable or unwilling to return home because they fear serious harm. For a legal definition of refugee, see section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).​

You may seek a referral for refugee status only from outside of the United States. For more information about refugees, see the Refugees section.​

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Asylum​

Asylum status is a form of protection available to people who:​

• Meet the definition of refugee
• Are already in the United States
• Are seeking admission at a port of entry

You may apply for asylum in the United States regardless of your country of origin or your current immigration status. For more information about asylum status, see the Asylum section.​

Refugees and Asylum | USCIS ​

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(emphasis added)

 

[Unkotare]

In the context of .....

Oh, now it's "in the context of." Just admit you were wrong and move on.

 

[BlueGin]

Denial Denial Denial is all we ever get out of you little shits. That and blaming all the Libtard failures on somebody else.

This is how you know a lot of the lefties claiming to be verterans…aren’t.

 

[BlueGin]

You're a vet?

He needs to give up his housing to illegals immediately.

 

[d0gbreath]

Do returning vets suffer from homelessness for the same reason that they enlisted?

No ability to find a job.