Bet on the US - and lost...

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    It's free article from Stratfor
    Egypt and the Destruction of Churches: Strategic Implications | STRATFOR

    Let's hope, that the people's will will succeed in placing representative leaders of the people into the government once that US-dictator Mubarak dies.
    The US off course will try to install another dictator for its foreign-policy goals giving a fuck about Egyptian population.
    That's the golden chance for Egypt to resurface, otherwise it will continue its current path of being sidelined in the new Middle-East.
     
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    Egyptians seem to have stormed a prison and burned it down.
    Let's hope the protests intensify during next weeks without much human loss and the regime in Egypt falls.

    Will be interesting to see.
    The most populous state in Middle-East being represented by the will of its own people sharing a border with Gaza and Israel.
     
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    Good for them. It is just another miserable Middle East Hellhole though. Now i just hope my Government stops giving them $Billions in American Taxpayer Dollars. Aggressive Foreign Interventionism just doesn't work in the end. Lebanon and Egypt are proof of this. Time to bring our troops and our cash back home.
     
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    Obama:
    "Egypt has been an ally of ours on a lot of critical issues (...)
    They make peace with Israel. (...)
    Obama: Violence Not The Answer In Egypt | USA | English

    See free Startfor Link in Post-2 what it means, when Mubarrak regime falls.
    For USA, he makes peace with Israel and is no dictator therefore.
     
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    80 Million Egyptians pissed off not only by economical situation within Egypt, but also by how Egypt is conducting foreign policy, especially regarding Gaza.

    If people's will were come to rule
    Egypt and the Destruction of Churches: Strategic Implications | STRATFOR

    I hope, that Egyptians go 'all-in' and don't settle for partial solution like vague 'promises' of the current regime for 'more democracy'.
    This would be a lot of headache for Washington, who would be confronted with uncertainties regarding the current state of Affairs down there.
     
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    There is at least another 4-6 years of conflict-free available space for power-expansion for regional countries.
    The space comes from the vacuum which is left behind by USA.

    Americans always think, that regional countries will clash or will work against each other.
    No. See Iran and Turkey, we are cooperating more then competing, because cooperating benefits more then competing at this stage.

    Iran is also a democracy and has legitimacy in its regime.
    Iran is Anti-USA, so Americans will portray them as 'Axis of Evil', but there is no question of internal regime survival within Iran.
    The system has the backing of the of the majority of its people.
    For Turkey it is more logic to seek cooperation with countries, which represent the will of its people, then seeking to cooperate with countries which don't represent the will of its people.

    If Egypt becomes truely democratic (it hasn't to be a democracy, but simply a system, which represents the majority of Egyptian people), then this would also not result in competition between Egypt and Turkey in the Mediterenean like George Friedman is implying.
    No, it would resemble Iranian-Turkish relations, where legitimate governments conduct business in the name of their people and not sidelining their own people.
    Such relations are always preferential.
    And as I said, there is at least another 4-6 years where everyone can eats a part of the cake without much friction until the cake (US vacuum) has been eaten up.
     
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    The US withdrawal of this region has begun in 2002.
    No matter, how you flip it, the whole Iraq thing has led to the region developing its own dynamics out of control of the USA.
    It's like a swiss clockwork, that has stood still and is now moving.

    You have destroyed the country in the middle of this region, which was under embargo and and was a buffer-zone to all countries around this country, which is lying at the heart of this region.
     

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