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The Bible is not History, as one or more delusional posters here seems to think.
AND as for Prophecy, there are as many or more ways to interpret the words as there are drops of water in the ocean.
The bible is the written history of the Jews.
Just like the Sumerians had Sumerian Cuneiform script and wrote about what happened to them.
ARCHAELOGY proves much of what is recorded never happened.
AND books were likely written long after incidents portrayed in them.
The Bible is simply not a valid source to record History.
Under the guise of a serpent, Satan uses reverse psychology, and knowledge of how our subconscious mind operates to influence Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Reverse Psychology is a technique that relies on reactance(psychological) to influence a behavior or trigger a belief totally opposite of what is actually being suggested or commanded.Archeology is Demolishing the History of the Bible
Exodus never happened and the walls of Jericho did not come a-tumbling down. How archaeologists are shaking Israel to its biblical foundations.Israel Finkelstein, chairman of the Archaeology Department at Tel Aviv University, with archaeology historian Neil Asher Silberman, has just published a book called "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Text.""The Israelites were never in Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer the land [of Canaan] in a military campaign and did not pass it on to the twelve tribes of Israel. Perhaps even harder to swallow is the fact that the united kingdom of David and Solomon, described in the Bible as a regional power, was at most a small tribal kingdom."<< These statements correspond well with what was written by John Rembsburg:"In the 12th chapter of Joshua is given a list of 31 kingdoms which were conquered by Israel. This was in the fifteenth century B.C. From this time forward they are represented as a mighty nation by Bible historians.Rameses III overran Canaan and conquered it between 1280 and 1260 B.C. The Egyptian records give a list of all the tribes inhabiting it. The children of Israel-- the Hebrews-- were not there. In the 5th century B.C., when Herodotus, the father of History, was collecting materials for his immortal work, he traversed nearly every portion of Western Asia. He describes all its principal peoples and places; but the Jews and Jerusalem are of too little consequence to merit a line from his pen. Not until 332 B.C. do the Jews appear upon the stage of history, and then only as the submissive vassals of a Grecian king."John E. Remsburg,*The Bible*(1901), pg. 263.Jerusalem was essentially a cow town, not the glorious capital of an empire. These findings have been accepted by the majority of biblical scholars and archaeologists for years and even decades.The tales of the patriarchs -- Abraham, Isaac and Joseph among others -- were the first to go when biblical scholars found those passages rife with anachronisms and other inconsistencies. The story of Exodus, one of the most powerful epics of enslavement, courage and liberation in human history, also slipped from history to legend when archaeologists could no longer ignore the lack of corroborating contemporary Egyptian accounts and the absence of evidence of large encampments in the Sinai Peninsula ("the wilderness" where Moses brought the Israelites after leading them through the parted Red Sea).Finkelstein is an iconoclast. He established his reputation in part by developing a theory about the settlement patterns of the nomadic shepherd tribes who would eventually become the Israelites, bolstering the growing consensus that they were originally indistinguishable from the rest of their neighbors, the Canaanites. This overturns a key element in the Bible: The Old Testament depicts the Israelites as superior outsiders -- descended from Abraham, a Mesopotamian immigrant -- entitled by divine order to invade Canaan and exterminate its unworthy, idolatrous inhabitants.
The famous battle of Jericho, with which the Israelites supposedly launched this campaign of conquest after wandering for decades in the desert, has been likewise debunked: The city of Jericho didn't exist at that time and had no walls to come tumbling down. These assertions are all pretty much accepted by mainstream archaeologists."Research is research, and strong societies can easily endure
Archeology Demolishes the Bible
Satan was already aware of what GOD commanded Adam and Eve to eat, but he starts the conversation with Eve, tempting to confuse her by asking "hath GOD said yea are not to eat of every tree in the garden"? It is clear that it was ok to eat of the trees in the garden except from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It is also clear in the scripture that they was not supposed to even touch the fruit from this tree, for they shall die.
Satan then applies Tricknology by mixing the truth with lies to make them seem ultimately true. Note: Tricknology is not a term you will find in a dictionary but it is derived from the term trickery. Placing the suffix -ology (the study of) at the end makes it mean the study of trickery, which is also a form of deception used by Satan.Satan told them that they would not die and their minds would be opened; that they would become as GOD's knowing both good and evil. That statement by Satan triggered their subconscious mind into believing this lie.
https://www.bible.com/notes/8306162...nology-and-knowledge-of-our-subconscious-mind
Only children believe in satan...
The bible is the written history of the Jews.
Just like the Sumerians had Sumerian Cuneiform script and wrote about what happened to them.
ARCHAELOGY proves much of what is recorded never happened.
AND books were likely written long after incidents portrayed in them.
The Bible is simply not a valid source to record History.
Well ShiaSherri, YOUR bible says that scripture was given to men of God who were instructed by the Holy Spirit. Which means the bible is the word of God. And you're saying it isn't true. Which means you're calling God a liar. Hope that works out for ya.
Of course if the same standards of historicity are applied to the NT - it doesn't fare even as well as the Hebrew Bible.....
No earthquake, no eclipse on the original Good Friday - and certainly no tombs and graves bursting open with their occupants strolling the streets of Jerusalem as "recorded" in the NT.
So if those rather hard to miss events were not even mentioned in any Roman or other contemporary sources, it's pretty obvious that none of the above ever occurred..... I believe the astronomers have gone back and not been able to locate a 'Good Friday' eclipse (which they could, yes, since the solar system is rather a 'gravitational clock-work').....
Of course if the same standards of historicity are applied to the NT - it doesn't fare even as well as the Hebrew Bible.....
No earthquake, no eclipse on the original Good Friday - and certainly no tombs and graves bursting open with their occupants strolling the streets of Jerusalem as "recorded" in the NT.
So if those rather hard to miss events were not even mentioned in any Roman or other contemporary sources, it's pretty obvious that none of the above ever occurred..... I believe the astronomers have gone back and not been able to locate a 'Good Friday' eclipse (which they could, yes, since the solar system is rather a 'gravitational clock-work').....
I can reject it as a history book and it still have meaning. I simply do not have to read it all as literally true. And for a Christian the central focus of our Bible is Jesus and The Gospels.
Of course if the same standards of historicity are applied to the NT - it doesn't fare even as well as the Hebrew Bible.....
No earthquake, no eclipse on the original Good Friday - and certainly no tombs and graves bursting open with their occupants strolling the streets of Jerusalem as "recorded" in the NT.
So if those rather hard to miss events were not even mentioned in any Roman or other contemporary sources, it's pretty obvious that none of the above ever occurred..... I believe the astronomers have gone back and not been able to locate a 'Good Friday' eclipse (which they could, yes, since the solar system is rather a 'gravitational clock-work').....
I can reject it as a history book and it still have meaning. I simply do not have to read it all as literally true. And for a Christian the central focus of our Bible is Jesus and The Gospels.
No one is claiming it's a history book. But every word in that bible is the word of God and you have rejected it. Heretic!
Under the guise of a serpent, Satan uses reverse psychology, and knowledge of how our subconscious mind operates to influence Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Reverse Psychology is a technique that relies on reactance(psychological) to influence a behavior or trigger a belief totally opposite of what is actually being suggested or commanded.
Satan was already aware of what GOD commanded Adam and Eve to eat, but he starts the conversation with Eve, tempting to confuse her by asking "hath GOD said yea are not to eat of every tree in the garden"? It is clear that it was ok to eat of the trees in the garden except from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It is also clear in the scripture that they was not supposed to even touch the fruit from this tree, for they shall die.
Satan then applies Tricknology by mixing the truth with lies to make them seem ultimately true. Note: Tricknology is not a term you will find in a dictionary but it is derived from the term trickery. Placing the suffix -ology (the study of) at the end makes it mean the study of trickery, which is also a form of deception used by Satan.Satan told them that they would not die and their minds would be opened; that they would become as GOD's knowing both good and evil. That statement by Satan triggered their subconscious mind into believing this lie.
https://www.bible.com/notes/8306162...nology-and-knowledge-of-our-subconscious-mind
Only children believe in satan...
Well child, you've helped him reach his goal which is to get you to believe he doesn't exist.
I am an independent who voted for Obama, even though I find him to be mediocre and weak. Obama does not know how to govern. Republicans have him running scared.
With Benjamin Netanyahu, he presents his position supported by facts, we always know exactly where he stands, and he backs up his words with action. Wish we could run him for President of the United States!
Then this makes you smarter than Jesus. He studied the Septuagint and said "I believe Gods Word" which means he accepted the bible as history. Read this little explanation if you will.Of course if the same standards of historicity are applied to the NT - it doesn't fare even as well as the Hebrew Bible.....
No earthquake, no eclipse on the original Good Friday - and certainly no tombs and graves bursting open with their occupants strolling the streets of Jerusalem as "recorded" in the NT.
So if those rather hard to miss events were not even mentioned in any Roman or other contemporary sources, it's pretty obvious that none of the above ever occurred..... I believe the astronomers have gone back and not been able to locate a 'Good Friday' eclipse (which they could, yes, since the solar system is rather a 'gravitational clock-work').....
I can reject it as a history book and it still have meaning. I simply do not have to read it all as literally true. And for a Christian the central focus of our Bible is Jesus and The Gospels.
This benyamin ain't bluffin', Sonny.I am an independent who voted for Obama, even though I find him to be mediocre and weak. Obama does not know how to govern. Republicans have him running scared.
With Benjamin Netanyahu, he presents his position supported by facts, we always know exactly where he stands, and he backs up his words with action. Wish we could run him for President of the United States!
The hasbara is strong with this binyamin.
Then this makes you smarter than Jesus. He studied the Septuagint and said "I believe Gods Word" which means he accepted the bible as history. Read this little explanation if you will.Of course if the same standards of historicity are applied to the NT - it doesn't fare even as well as the Hebrew Bible.....
No earthquake, no eclipse on the original Good Friday - and certainly no tombs and graves bursting open with their occupants strolling the streets of Jerusalem as "recorded" in the NT.
So if those rather hard to miss events were not even mentioned in any Roman or other contemporary sources, it's pretty obvious that none of the above ever occurred..... I believe the astronomers have gone back and not been able to locate a 'Good Friday' eclipse (which they could, yes, since the solar system is rather a 'gravitational clock-work').....
I can reject it as a history book and it still have meaning. I simply do not have to read it all as literally true. And for a Christian the central focus of our Bible is Jesus and The Gospels.
What Bible Did Jesus Use? - Online Bible Study Tools
She is waiting for Jesus to return, break all the crosses, and then start preaching Islam. This is what many Muslims believe. That is why you see on some of the signs at Muslim protests in England saying such things as "Jesus will destroy the cross and follow the Quran."Of course if the same standards of historicity are applied to the NT - it doesn't fare even as well as the Hebrew Bible.....
No earthquake, no eclipse on the original Good Friday - and certainly no tombs and graves bursting open with their occupants strolling the streets of Jerusalem as "recorded" in the NT.
So if those rather hard to miss events were not even mentioned in any Roman or other contemporary sources, it's pretty obvious that none of the above ever occurred..... I believe the astronomers have gone back and not been able to locate a 'Good Friday' eclipse (which they could, yes, since the solar system is rather a 'gravitational clock-work').....
I can reject it as a history book and it still have meaning. I simply do not have to read it all as literally true. And for a Christian the central focus of our Bible is Jesus and The Gospels.
No one is claiming it's a history book. But every word in that bible is the word of God and you have rejected it. Heretic!
And the two-bit anti-Semites love to play that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" game as if they think anyone with brains believes that they (especially Alfalfa) really care about the Arabs. Hmm, I wonder which is Alfalfa favorite hate site. It's difficult to tell since so many bring up the word "hasbara."I am an independent who voted for Obama, even though I find him to be mediocre and weak. Obama does not know how to govern. Republicans have him running scared.
With Benjamin Netanyahu, he presents his position supported by facts, we always know exactly where he stands, and he backs up his words with action. Wish we could run him for President of the United States!
The hasbara is strong with this binyamin.
She is waiting for Jesus to return, break all the crosses, and then start preaching Islam. This is what many Muslims believe. That is why you see on some of the signs at Muslim protests in England saying such things as "Jesus will destroy the cross and follow the Quran."I can reject it as a history book and it still have meaning. I simply do not have to read it all as literally true. And for a Christian the central focus of our Bible is Jesus and The Gospels.
No one is claiming it's a history book. But every word in that bible is the word of God and you have rejected it. Heretic!
She is waiting for Jesus to return, break all the crosses, and then start preaching Islam. This is what many Muslims believe. That is why you see on some of the signs at Muslim protests in England saying such things as "Jesus will destroy the cross and follow the Quran."No one is claiming it's a history book. But every word in that bible is the word of God and you have rejected it. Heretic!
Neither of you are right. I think every word has a Truth to speak to me everytime I read or study a bible verse. But it is not a history book and noone should read it with the goal of reconstructing the past with it. Thus, reading Joshua in a Bible Study, I know I am not being called to ethnically cleanse, but I can learn lessons from the stories, like how to respond to conflicts in relationships. And I find even when I have difficulties seeing myself getting something worthwhile from reading verses in a weeks lesson, those times in particular, I find when my small group discusses the verses, it is those times I am humbled by some of the most beautiful and meaningful discussions taking place. I cannot explain what happens, I just see God working and feel His presence.
Bennie usually begins his presentations with an absurd summary of the Old Testament that leaves out the part of Yahweh hating the the 12 tribes of Israel. That oversight notwithstanding, the UN or whatever did not interrupt and point out the Old Testament is mythology and should not be a basis for public policy. A few minutes ago he described an agreement with a Persian king back in the old days and why can't the new guy be like the old guy.
