Baseball situation: Carl Crawford and Jacoby Ellbury at first and third ...

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Your pitcher begins his delivery and once he makes a clear move toward home plate the runner on first (it doesn't matter if it is Crawford or Ells) begins to casually walk to second base.

What would you do?
 
Your pitcher begins his delivery and once he makes a clear move toward home plate the runner on first (it doesn't matter if it is Crawford or Ells) begins to casually walk to second base.

What would you do?

What's the score?

What's the count on the batter?

How many outs?

What position am I playing?

Is the batter right handed or left?
 
Your pitcher begins his delivery and once he makes a clear move toward home plate the runner on first (it doesn't matter if it is Crawford or Ells) begins to casually walk to second base.

What would you do?

What's the score?

What's the count on the batter?

How many outs?

What position am I playing?

Is the batter right handed or left?

You are the catcher, your team is up 3-1 in the 5th, nobody out, Youk's up with a count of 0-0.
 
Your pitcher begins his delivery and once he makes a clear move toward home plate the runner on first (it doesn't matter if it is Crawford or Ells) begins to casually walk to second base.

What would you do?

What's the score?

What's the count on the batter?

How many outs?

What position am I playing?

Is the batter right handed or left?

You are the catcher, your team is up 3-1 in the 5th, nobody out, Youk's up with a count of 0-0.

Hmmm..I'd fake the throw to second and have either the 2nd baseman or the SS..depending on if the batter is left or right, cut off the throw and see if the runner on 3rd breaks for home..

..or maybe make an immediate throw to 3rd if the runner has a big lead..see if we can catch him.

I dunno...so what's the answer?
 
What's the score?

What's the count on the batter?

How many outs?

What position am I playing?

Is the batter right handed or left?

You are the catcher, your team is up 3-1 in the 5th, nobody out, Youk's up with a count of 0-0.

Hmmm..I'd fake the throw to second and have either the 2nd baseman or the SS..depending on if the batter is left or right, cut off the throw and see if the runner on 3rd breaks for home..

..or maybe make an immediate throw to 3rd if the runner has a big lead..see if we can catch him.

I dunno...so what's the answer?

There is no "answer" I'm just curious what someone would do. I doubt any kind of fake throw or cut off situation is going to work all that well because of how slow the play is developing with the runner casually walking to second. A quick throw to third and you might get lucky if the runner is jumpy but you are running a risk of throwing the ball down the left field line and again, with the runner walking to second the guy on third has no reason to move at all unless the ball leaves the catcher's hands.

It's embarrassing but you are prolly better off letting the man take the bag.

Pretty scary thought for opposing managers, huh?
 
You are the catcher, your team is up 3-1 in the 5th, nobody out, Youk's up with a count of 0-0.

Hmmm..I'd fake the throw to second and have either the 2nd baseman or the SS..depending on if the batter is left or right, cut off the throw and see if the runner on 3rd breaks for home..

..or maybe make an immediate throw to 3rd if the runner has a big lead..see if we can catch him.

I dunno...so what's the answer?

There is no "answer" I'm just curious what someone would do. I doubt any kind of fake throw or cut off situation is going to work all that well because of how slow the play is developing with the runner casually walking to second. A quick throw to third and you might get lucky if the runner is jumpy but you are running a risk of throwing the ball down the left field line and again, with the runner walking to second the guy on third has no reason to move at all unless the ball leaves the catcher's hands.

It's embarrassing but you are prolly better off letting the man take the bag.

Pretty scary thought for opposing managers, huh?


Well, we have the lead..No point in risking a bad throw....we have great pitching...We'll pitch our way out of this...;)

Here's one for you.
Name 4 ways a batter can get to first without hitting the ball?
 
Hmmm..I'd fake the throw to second and have either the 2nd baseman or the SS..depending on if the batter is left or right, cut off the throw and see if the runner on 3rd breaks for home..

..or maybe make an immediate throw to 3rd if the runner has a big lead..see if we can catch him.

I dunno...so what's the answer?

There is no "answer" I'm just curious what someone would do. I doubt any kind of fake throw or cut off situation is going to work all that well because of how slow the play is developing with the runner casually walking to second. A quick throw to third and you might get lucky if the runner is jumpy but you are running a risk of throwing the ball down the left field line and again, with the runner walking to second the guy on third has no reason to move at all unless the ball leaves the catcher's hands.

It's embarrassing but you are prolly better off letting the man take the bag.

Pretty scary thought for opposing managers, huh?


Well, we have the lead..No point in risking a bad throw....we have great pitching...We'll pitch our way out of this...;)

Here's one for you.
Name 4 ways a batter can get to first without hitting the ball?

Umm ...

Catcher interference

Strike out swinging

Strike out looking

Strike out swinging but the catcher drops the ball and throws you out at first
 
Misread what you wrote ... thought you said four ways they can get out without hitting the ball.
 
Interference

Walk

HBP

Strike out, catcher drops the ball and you beat the throw
 
Your pitcher begins his delivery and once he makes a clear move toward home plate the runner on first (it doesn't matter if it is Crawford or Ells) begins to casually walk to second base.

What would you do?

What's the score?

What's the count on the batter?

How many outs?

What position am I playing?

Is the batter right handed or left?

You are the catcher, your team is up 3-1 in the 5th, nobody out, Youk's up with a count of 0-0.

Catch the ball, throw to second, toss the mask and get ready to catch the throw and tag the runner coming home from third;
or, catch the ball, fake a throw to second and throw to third;
or, catch the ball, throw to the SS coming across to cut the ball off from going to second who will throw back to the plate or run at the runner attempting to advance from third.
All of this I would have called prior to the pitch as all catchers do in first and third situations (watch what a catcher does in first and third situations when he steps in front ofthe plate, the hand motions are calling which play).
 
What's the score?

What's the count on the batter?

How many outs?

What position am I playing?

Is the batter right handed or left?

You are the catcher, your team is up 3-1 in the 5th, nobody out, Youk's up with a count of 0-0.

Catch the ball, throw to second, toss the mask and get ready to catch the throw and tag the runner coming home from third;
or, catch the ball, fake a throw to second and throw to third;
or, catch the ball, throw to the SS coming across to cut the ball off from going to second who will throw back to the plate or run at the runner attempting to advance from third.
All of this I would have called prior to the pitch as all catchers do in first and third situations (watch what a catcher does in first and third situations when he steps in front ofthe plate, the hand motions are calling which play).

This seems like the only legit defense against these two on the corners and as long as the guy on third has his head up it wont work.
 
You are the catcher, your team is up 3-1 in the 5th, nobody out, Youk's up with a count of 0-0.

Catch the ball, throw to second, toss the mask and get ready to catch the throw and tag the runner coming home from third;
or, catch the ball, fake a throw to second and throw to third;
or, catch the ball, throw to the SS coming across to cut the ball off from going to second who will throw back to the plate or run at the runner attempting to advance from third.
All of this I would have called prior to the pitch as all catchers do in first and third situations (watch what a catcher does in first and third situations when he steps in front ofthe plate, the hand motions are calling which play).

This seems like the only legit defense against these two on the corners and as long as the guy on third has his head up it wont work.

A wringle in the scenario is the runner 'walking'; the catcher might run directly at the runner walking which requires the pitcher to cover home, with no back up. A risky option.
 
Catch the ball, throw to second, toss the mask and get ready to catch the throw and tag the runner coming home from third;
or, catch the ball, fake a throw to second and throw to third;
or, catch the ball, throw to the SS coming across to cut the ball off from going to second who will throw back to the plate or run at the runner attempting to advance from third.
All of this I would have called prior to the pitch as all catchers do in first and third situations (watch what a catcher does in first and third situations when he steps in front ofthe plate, the hand motions are calling which play).

This seems like the only legit defense against these two on the corners and as long as the guy on third has his head up it wont work.

A wringle in the scenario is the runner 'walking'; the catcher might run directly at the runner walking which requires the pitcher to cover home, with no back up. A risky option.

Agreed.

I was chatting about this last night with the guys at the office and given the players involved I truly think that damn near whenever those two are on the corners the guy on first could just walk to second without drawing a throw.

Now if Tito were only arrogant enough to give such an order ....
 
Look the runner back to third and throw to second

Have a spotter on Crawford (to yell when he is going), start a rundown and when Crawford breaks...fire home
 
This seems like the only legit defense against these two on the corners and as long as the guy on third has his head up it wont work.

A wringle in the scenario is the runner 'walking'; the catcher might run directly at the runner walking which requires the pitcher to cover home, with no back up. A risky option.

Agreed.

I was chatting about this last night with the guys at the office and given the players involved I truly think that damn near whenever those two are on the corners the guy on first could just walk to second without drawing a throw.

Now if Tito were only arrogant enough to give such an order ....

With a right handed first baseman it might be feasible for the catcher to throw to #3 and have him chase the runner to second, forcing the runner at third to make a play.
The offensive strategy - having the runner walk off first base - may work at lower levels of baseball (forced balk effort) but I can't see it in college or professional ball.
 
A wringle in the scenario is the runner 'walking'; the catcher might run directly at the runner walking which requires the pitcher to cover home, with no back up. A risky option.

Agreed.

I was chatting about this last night with the guys at the office and given the players involved I truly think that damn near whenever those two are on the corners the guy on first could just walk to second without drawing a throw.

Now if Tito were only arrogant enough to give such an order ....

With a right handed first baseman it might be feasible for the catcher to throw to #3 and have him chase the runner to second, forcing the runner at third to make a play.
The offensive strategy - having the runner walk off first base - may work at lower levels of baseball (forced balk effort) but I can't see it in college or professional ball.

There aren't many anyway, but what's the difference in this scenario if #3 is right handed?
 

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