Barry declares war!!!

and he was paid for his appearance by his employer, foxnews.
prove it

i highly doubt you can


I dont' need to, Beck receives a regular paycheck from FoxNews, and was invited by FoxNews to do the show. Therefore, as his employer, they paid him to do the show.

Now, if Beck did not work for the network and been an outside guest, or been on a talk show on another network, Foxnews would not be responsible, but that was not the case.
WRONG, he is PAID to do HIS SHOW
that WASNT his show
he was there as a GUEST to promote HIS BOOK

so, are you wrong, or a liar?
 
You have a link/video of your bolded accusation? If so, I'd love to see that. Now if you're talking about Glenn Beck, that's not FOX NEWS.


Does Glenn Beck receive a regular paycheck from FoxNews? Yes.

Did he make these statements on a FoxNews "news" program? Yes.

Did FoxNews make a retraction of Mr Beck's statements? No.

That means that FoxNews is responsible for Mr Beck's statements.

You know you are begging the question. Bad spin, too obvious.
 
and he was paid for his appearance by his employer, foxnews.

Uhhhhhh....no shit sherlock...he's UNDER CONTRACT and is compensated for his time regardless of what show he appears on. HIS SALARY IS SET!!!
wrong
he is paid for his show

IMHO You are mistaken. When under contract for A NETWORK that broadcasts his show one of the clauses states he is required from time to time to appear on other FOX NEWS PROGRAMS without further compensation.

You are NOT under contract for a single show....he works for Fox, not The Glen Beck Show.
 
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Hey Vast LWC, quick question for you. Do you watch FoxNews? Yes or no would be enough.


I watch both MSNBC and FoxNews OCCASIONALLY, just enough to form an educated opinion of both.

Other than that, I avoid both, as I generally can't stand watching talking heads for more than a few minutes at a time.

I understand your position - however if you watch Fox News occasionally, how do you know their reporting is faulty?
 
ame®icano;1612260 said:
ame®icano;1611920 said:
hey vast lwc, quick question for you. Do you watch foxnews? Yes or no would be enough.


i watch both msnbc and foxnews occasionally, just enough to form an educated opinion of both.

Other than that, i avoid both, as i generally can't stand watching talking heads for more than a few minutes at a time.

i understand your position - however if you watch fox news occasionally, how do you know their reporting is faulty?

dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Whatever happened to Vast RWC? hhhmmmm....

He's planning a run for Congress and now posts as Vast LWC. :D Everyone knows that one can not win a ticket to Washington and really be a conservative. Not now days anyway.

Immie

PS No offense Vast LWC, just kidding.
 
Uhhhhhh....no shit sherlock...he's UNDER CONTRACT and is compensated for his time regardless of what show he appears on. HIS SALARY IS SET!!!
wrong
he is paid for his show

IMHO You are mistaken. When under contract for A NETWORK that broadcasts his show one of the clauses states he is required from time to time to appear on other FOX NEWS PROGRAMS without further compensation.

You are NOT under contract for a single show....he works for Fox, not The Glen Beck Show.
he was on Fox & Friends to promote his personal book
 
Why all the fuss about Fox News. It hardly rates....

LOL!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: All the way to the bank!!!

Aren't they going to take over PMSNBC?

Agreed. Here's the 'famous one's' favorite cliche:

Obama's Favorite Words: Let Me Be Clear - ABC News
President Obama's Favorite Words: 'Let Me Be Clear'
From Health Care, Gay Rights to Foreign Affairs, the President Uses His Favorite Four-Word Phrase
By BEN FELLER

Oct. 13, 2009—

For all his flourish, President Barack Obama sure falls back on a few familiar phrases.

Make no mistake. Change isn't easy. It won't happen overnight. There will be setbacks and false starts.

Those who routinely listen to the president have come to expect some of those expressions to pop up in almost every speech. (That includes you, cynics and naysayers, the ones Obama mentions all the time without identifying who is saying nay.)

Yet in the portfolio of presidential phrases, none is more pervasive than Obama's four-word favorite: Let me be clear.

It is his emphatic windup for, well, everything.

"Let me be clear," he said in describing his surprise at winning the Nobel Peace Prize. "I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations."

"Let me be clear," he said in one of his dozens of pitches for a health insurance overhaul. "If you like your doctor or health care provider, you can keep them."

Presidents talk so much in public that is not surprising to find rhetorical patterns. Although Obama is known for a flair with the written and spoken word, his hardest mission is often to make complicated matters relevant to the masses.

So clarity, it seems, is of the highest order.

Terrorists? "Now let me be clear: We are indeed at war with al-Qaida and its affiliates."

Student testing? "Let me be clear: Success should be judged by results, and data is a powerful tool to determine results."

Iran? "Let me be clear: Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile activity poses a real threat, not just to the United States, but to Iran's neighbors and our allies."
Obama Makes His Message 'Clear'

Auto bailouts? "Let me be clear: The United States government has no interest in running GM."

The president takes the phrase everywhere.

In Moscow: "Let me be clear: America wants a strong, peaceful, and prosperous Russia."

In Ghana: "Let me be clear: Africa is not the crude caricature of a continent at perpetual war."

In Italy, bemoaning poor U.S. leadership on climate change: "Let me be clear: Those days are over."

In Trinidad, announcing new aid: "Let me be clear: This is not charity."

Obama has used the same phrase, or a variation of it, to make his point about the strategy in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, U.S.-China relations, bipartisanship, pet legislative projects and Turkey's bid to join the European Union.

He has relied on it to look ahead ("Let me be clear: We pay for this plan," Obama says of his college initiative) and to look back ("Let me be clear: Those ideas have been tested, and they have failed" he says of economic models he dislikes.)

White House spokesman Josh Earnest says Obama's style, which he referred to as presidential throat "clearing," is purposeful.

"While some in Washington seek political advantage by hiding behind ambiguity," Earnest said, "the president regularly seeks to make it clear where he stands and what he intends to do."

Perhaps the nation should have seen this coming. Candidate Obama set the tone.

"Let me be clear: It's outrageous that we find ourselves in a position where taxpayers must bear the burden for the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street and Washington," Obama said in September 2008.

There must be something catchy to all this. The people around Obama are just as insistent.

Here's Vice President Joe Biden, assuring members of Georgia's Parliament that U.S. efforts to reset relations with Russia wouldn't come at their expense: "Let me be clear: They have not, they will not, and they cannot."

And senior adviser David Axelrod, on missed legislative deadlines on health care: "Let me be clear. We're less interested in hard deadlines than in moving the process forward."

Lest anyone get too serious about this, Obama has lightened the mood with the phrase, too. He made state lawmakers laugh when he said the massive taxpayer-financed stimulus plan wouldn't be spent on frivolous projects such as dog parks.

"Now, let me be clear," Obama said in March, before Bo the dog arrived. "I don't have anything against dog parks."

Clearly.

Associated Press writer Philip Elliott contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2009 ABC News Internet Ventures
 
Why all the fuss about Fox News. It hardly rates....

LOL!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: All the way to the bank!!!

Aren't they going to take over PMSNBC?

Agreed. Here's the 'famous one's' favorite cliche:

Obama's Favorite Words: Let Me Be Clear - ABC News
President Obama's Favorite Words: 'Let Me Be Clear'
From Health Care, Gay Rights to Foreign Affairs, the President Uses His Favorite Four-Word Phrase
By BEN FELLER

Oct. 13, 2009—

For all his flourish, President Barack Obama sure falls back on a few familiar phrases.

Make no mistake. Change isn't easy. It won't happen overnight. There will be setbacks and false starts.

Those who routinely listen to the president have come to expect some of those expressions to pop up in almost every speech. (That includes you, cynics and naysayers, the ones Obama mentions all the time without identifying who is saying nay.)

Yet in the portfolio of presidential phrases, none is more pervasive than Obama's four-word favorite: Let me be clear.

It is his emphatic windup for, well, everything.

"Let me be clear," he said in describing his surprise at winning the Nobel Peace Prize. "I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations."

"Let me be clear," he said in one of his dozens of pitches for a health insurance overhaul. "If you like your doctor or health care provider, you can keep them."

Presidents talk so much in public that is not surprising to find rhetorical patterns. Although Obama is known for a flair with the written and spoken word, his hardest mission is often to make complicated matters relevant to the masses.

So clarity, it seems, is of the highest order.

Terrorists? "Now let me be clear: We are indeed at war with al-Qaida and its affiliates."

Student testing? "Let me be clear: Success should be judged by results, and data is a powerful tool to determine results."

Iran? "Let me be clear: Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile activity poses a real threat, not just to the United States, but to Iran's neighbors and our allies."
Obama Makes His Message 'Clear'

Auto bailouts? "Let me be clear: The United States government has no interest in running GM."

The president takes the phrase everywhere.

In Moscow: "Let me be clear: America wants a strong, peaceful, and prosperous Russia."

In Ghana: "Let me be clear: Africa is not the crude caricature of a continent at perpetual war."

In Italy, bemoaning poor U.S. leadership on climate change: "Let me be clear: Those days are over."

In Trinidad, announcing new aid: "Let me be clear: This is not charity."

Obama has used the same phrase, or a variation of it, to make his point about the strategy in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, U.S.-China relations, bipartisanship, pet legislative projects and Turkey's bid to join the European Union.

He has relied on it to look ahead ("Let me be clear: We pay for this plan," Obama says of his college initiative) and to look back ("Let me be clear: Those ideas have been tested, and they have failed" he says of economic models he dislikes.)

White House spokesman Josh Earnest says Obama's style, which he referred to as presidential throat "clearing," is purposeful.

"While some in Washington seek political advantage by hiding behind ambiguity," Earnest said, "the president regularly seeks to make it clear where he stands and what he intends to do."

Perhaps the nation should have seen this coming. Candidate Obama set the tone.

"Let me be clear: It's outrageous that we find ourselves in a position where taxpayers must bear the burden for the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street and Washington," Obama said in September 2008.

There must be something catchy to all this. The people around Obama are just as insistent.

Here's Vice President Joe Biden, assuring members of Georgia's Parliament that U.S. efforts to reset relations with Russia wouldn't come at their expense: "Let me be clear: They have not, they will not, and they cannot."

And senior adviser David Axelrod, on missed legislative deadlines on health care: "Let me be clear. We're less interested in hard deadlines than in moving the process forward."

Lest anyone get too serious about this, Obama has lightened the mood with the phrase, too. He made state lawmakers laugh when he said the massive taxpayer-financed stimulus plan wouldn't be spent on frivolous projects such as dog parks.

"Now, let me be clear," Obama said in March, before Bo the dog arrived. "I don't have anything against dog parks."

Clearly.

Associated Press writer Philip Elliott contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2009 ABC News Internet Ventures

He is Totally Worthless.
 
Ame®icano;1612260 said:
Ame®icano;1611920 said:
Hey Vast LWC, quick question for you. Do you watch FoxNews? Yes or no would be enough.


I watch both MSNBC and FoxNews OCCASIONALLY, just enough to form an educated opinion of both.

Other than that, I avoid both, as I generally can't stand watching talking heads for more than a few minutes at a time.

I understand your position - however if you watch Fox News occasionally, how do you know their reporting is faulty?

Still waiting...
 
perhaps classless, lying fauxnews should learn to start actually telling the truth. ;)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew]YouTube - tammy wynette stand by your man[/ame]

no matter what happens, youre his firm, viva por la causa!!


:cuckoo:
 
Very interesting comments here. To me, the issue is not about how FOX News rates as a news channel. The issue should be that a United States President has singled out a news network because of its editorial views and basically launched a campaign against that network. He's used disinformation as his tool. To accuse FOX News of being conservative would not strike a chord with most Americans. But to accuse FOX News of being a voice for the Republican Party is a deliberate statement calculated on the notion that he won his office because Americans didn't want another Republican. Now he's trying that same formula with FOX News.

I am truly surprised that others don't see the potential danger to our basic freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and host of other rights. This would be true if it was George Bush saying the same things about CNN or any politician saying anything about any media organization, even if it was a fringe organization on the far left or far right. An American fundamental is the right to express an opinion no matter how unpopular and without concern that the King's Men will show up at your doorstep in retaliation.

While King Obama has not taken any other deliberate measure, so far, against FOX News, this "campaign" sets an ugly and scary precedent. We, as freedom loving Americans, shouldn't tolerate it one bit whether it's FOX News or MSNBC in the cross hairs.
 
Its hard for some to see when their nose is so far up his ass ....
 
First of all, I pointed out specifically that MSNBC was an exception, as it is as bad as Fox.

Secondly, FoxNews called the President of the United States a "Racist who has a deep-seated hatred of white people."

So you're right, Fox doesn't "pull shit like that", the shit they pull is much, much worse.

And that was on an interview on a morning news show, not on Beck's "opinion" show.



How do you know that was a lie? He did in fact sit at the alter of jeramiah wright for 20 long years and soak up the hatred being spewed in that church. He did in fact choose his black friend over the "stupidly acting white cops" didn't he? And, he did it without knowing the facts by his own admission. and once he uttered a snide little remark about his grandmother being "a typical white person" I have wondered have many tons of shit would still be hitting the fan if Palin had said so and so acted like a "typical black person." and btw, numbskull, Glen Beck said that. not Fox News.

And the guy MSNBC was talking about carried a GUN to an event where a black man was speaking.

All circumstantial evidence.

And Glenn Beck said that on a FoxNews news show, speaking as a host of a major FoxNews Television show.

FoxNews did not make a retraction at any point. Thus "the opinions expressed on that show were the opinions of FoxNews".


That makes things quite interesting. Since several Fox Commentators are democrats and support Obama's policies..... are their opinions also the opinions of Fox News?
 
Very interesting comments here. To me, the issue is not about how FOX News rates as a news channel. The issue should be that a United States President has singled out a news network because of its editorial views and basically launched a campaign against that network. He's used disinformation as his tool. To accuse FOX News of being conservative would not strike a chord with most Americans. But to accuse FOX News of being a voice for the Republican Party is a deliberate statement calculated on the notion that he won his office because Americans didn't want another Republican. Now he's trying that same formula with FOX News.

I am truly surprised that others don't see the potential danger to our basic freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and host of other rights. This would be true if it was George Bush saying the same things about CNN or any politician saying anything about any media organization, even if it was a fringe organization on the far left or far right. An American fundamental is the right to express an opinion no matter how unpopular and without concern that the King's Men will show up at your doorstep in retaliation.

While King Obama has not taken any other deliberate measure, so far, against FOX News, this "campaign" sets an ugly and scary precedent. We, as freedom loving Americans, shouldn't tolerate it one bit whether it's FOX News or MSNBC in the cross hairs.

excellent points. but don't be surprised I think we all understand how intolerant the left is of opposing ideas and views. They have never hidden their desire to be totalitarian. Many have run down to Venezuela for a handshake and a hug.
 
The intolerance, as always, of the right remains one marked by viciousness, small mindedness, and inaccuracy. See above.
 

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