Baptist Pastor from Florida rips Kim Davis a new one.

[AvgGuyIA]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

Even the Devil works in mysterious ways. You think he doesn't have followers wearing the cloth?

 

[bodecea]

The decision was the worst in history. Worse than Plessy v Ferguson. Worse than Roe v Wade. The Supreme Court threw out:
1) 2000 years of Western tradition, which holds marriage is one man, one woman
2) 200 years of American Jurisprudence, which holds judges interpret laws
3) the 10th Amendment, which holds powers not specifically granted to the federal government are retained by the states
4) 200 years of tradition that holds states primarily define marriage and similar laws within their borders
5) Over 200 years of tradition that holds the Will of the People is the ultimate arbiter of standards
6) The principle of one man, one vote
7) The principle of limited government

Now the Supreme Court can invent anything, call it a right, and declare that it is protected under the 14th A. There is no limiting principle to it.

Exactly. Next will come polygamous marriages, incestuous marriages. The floodgates are wide open. I'd simply allow Walmart to sell the licenses just as they sell hunting and fishing licenses now. The license means nothing except as a vehicle to clam tax status and other perceived benefits and even the tax status often results in a penalty.

ROFL what a lying bigoted piece of shit you are.

At least I can speak without resorting to a speel of profanity. You are a vulgar uncouth brute beast and an insult to humanity in general.

I too don't resort to profanity....but I also am aware of how our government works.

Are you aware of how it's supposed to work or are you aware of how it actually works?

Both....you don't seem to be aware tho....what with your comments about majority rules....even if it were Jim Crow.

 

[bodecea]

The decision was the worst in history. Worse than Plessy v Ferguson. Worse than Roe v Wade. The Supreme Court threw out:
1) 2000 years of Western tradition, which holds marriage is one man, one woman
2) 200 years of American Jurisprudence, which holds judges interpret laws
3) the 10th Amendment, which holds powers not specifically granted to the federal government are retained by the states
4) 200 years of tradition that holds states primarily define marriage and similar laws within their borders
5) Over 200 years of tradition that holds the Will of the People is the ultimate arbiter of standards
6) The principle of one man, one vote
7) The principle of limited government

Now the Supreme Court can invent anything, call it a right, and declare that it is protected under the 14th A. There is no limiting principle to it.

Exactly. Next will come polygamous marriages, incestuous marriages. The floodgates are wide open. I'd simply allow Walmart to sell the licenses just as they sell hunting and fishing licenses now. The license means nothing except as a vehicle to clam tax status and other perceived benefits and even the tax status often results in a penalty.

Why didn't polygamous marriages come after legal heterosexual marriages? Why hasn't incestuous marriages come after legal heterosexual marriages? Why is it that you think legal same sex marriage is so gosh darn powerful?

They are on the horizon fool. A man has already filed suit to marry his two live-in wives.

They've been on the horizon since the Mormon church was created.....yet, you want to blame something that's been hovering for over 160 years on this year's decision on legal gay marriage? How successful has 160 years of wanting polygamy worked so far? Could you point out what it is about the gay marriage decision that makes it easier for those wanting legal polygamy? http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

Simple fool. The Defense of Marriage Act defined marriage as only between ONE man and ONE woman. The Supreme Court does not make any such distinctions and excludes no one.

Ah...starting with the insults now? After wagging your sanctimonious finger at another poster? And you don't seem to be aware of the fact that DOMA is pretty much gone now. Freedom rings!

 

[bodecea]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

Even the Devil works in mysterious ways. You think he doesn't have followers wearing the cloth?

So you call that Florida paster "being of the Devil". What evidence do you have?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It's my understanding she became a Christian after the divorces. Onnly God knows her heart and there is only one unforgivable sin.

So she wasn't christian before then? What was she? Catholic? Are you asserting that a county in the middle of the bible belt would elect someone who was not a christian? Good one.

She was a sinner. You don't understand what you're blabbering about and are a waste of time

So she's not a sinner now? You making that assertion, are you? Hubris isn't a sin? Gluttony isn't a sin? Religious tyranny over her workers isn't a sin?

Everyone sins...some repent and ask God to forgive them, others continue to sin. You're spinning your wheels here

So...what's different about her sinning as a Baptist (or whatever else she was before) and sinning as this new-and-improved brand of christianity?

Who said she was religious before? My understanding is she found Christ after the divorces. But with that said if she is truly repentant and asked for forgiveness she is forgiven. I'd have my doubts if she divorced again though

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

Even the Devil works in mysterious ways. You think he doesn't have followers wearing the cloth?

Sure he does, the Bible even warns of them

 

[bodecea]

So she wasn't christian before then? What was she? Catholic? Are you asserting that a county in the middle of the bible belt would elect someone who was not a christian? Good one.

She was a sinner. You don't understand what you're blabbering about and are a waste of time

So she's not a sinner now? You making that assertion, are you? Hubris isn't a sin? Gluttony isn't a sin? Religious tyranny over her workers isn't a sin?

Everyone sins...some repent and ask God to forgive them, others continue to sin. You're spinning your wheels here

So...what's different about her sinning as a Baptist (or whatever else she was before) and sinning as this new-and-improved brand of christianity?

Who said she was religious before? My understanding is she found Christ after the divorces. But with that said if she is truly repentant and asked for forgiveness she is forgiven. I'd have my doubts if she divorced again though

So you are saying that she was NOT religious before? And got elected to a small county position in the bible belt? Tell us another one, eh?

 

[bodecea]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

Even the Devil works in mysterious ways. You think he doesn't have followers wearing the cloth?

Sure he does, the Bible even warns of them

And now the christians turn on each other.

 

[RKMBrown]

The law is often changed. This is why we have mechanisms in the US Constitution to allow for changes in the law. Those who cannot adapt to change have no business being in the position of a Kim Davis to begin with.

75% of the voters thought so. What happened was 75% of the voters had their votes vacated while 25% had their votes validated. Gays and lesbians only make up about 6 or 7 per cent of the total population. Get real. You'll never have 100% agreement on any issue but the majority should prevail.

The decision was the worst in history. Worse than Plessy v Ferguson. Worse than Roe v Wade. The Supreme Court threw out:
1) 2000 years of Western tradition, which holds marriage is one man, one woman
2) 200 years of American Jurisprudence, which holds judges interpret laws
3) the 10th Amendment, which holds powers not specifically granted to the federal government are retained by the states
4) 200 years of tradition that holds states primarily define marriage and similar laws within their borders
5) Over 200 years of tradition that holds the Will of the People is the ultimate arbiter of standards
6) The principle of one man, one vote
7) The principle of limited government

Now the Supreme Court can invent anything, call it a right, and declare that it is protected under the 14th A. There is no limiting principle to it.

Exactly. Next will come polygamous marriages, incestuous marriages. The floodgates are wide open. I'd simply allow Walmart to sell the licenses just as they sell hunting and fishing licenses now. The license means nothing except as a vehicle to clam tax status and other perceived benefits and even the tax status often results in a penalty.

ROFL what a lying bigoted piece of shit you are.

At least I can speak without resorting to a speel of profanity. You are a vulgar uncouth brute beast and an insult to humanity in general.

You don't like the salt? Then quit with the bullshit slippery slope fallacy. How about if I say something like if we let you bible thumping bigots get away with your attack on gay people next you'll be burning sinners in the town square and killing children for blood sacrifices?

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

In all fairness, some truth of the facts should be presented here. Ms. Davis won her election to County Clerk by an overwhelming majority of the voters of her county. At the time of her election to office, marriage was pretty much defined as the union between one man and one woman. The Supreme Court decision redefining marriage has only recently been given. The fact still remains that the Kentucky Legislature still has not changed that state's law defining marriage as the union between one man and one woman. Now, since she was elected by the people of her County to uphold the laws of their county and the state of Kentucky, would she not be violating her oath of office were she to issue licenses in direct conflict with the law of her county and her state? She even went so far as to ask that judge who sentenced her to jail "What law am I violating here?" and she received no answer to her question. The simple fact is that she is an official of her county and of her state and is sworn to uphold their law.

Wrong.

Obergefell did not 'redefine' marriage, to maintain it did is a ridiculous lie.

Marriage is the same now as it was before the ruling: a union of two equal, adult, consenting partners not related to each other in a relationship recognized by the state – unaltered, unchanged, and not 'redefined.'

Wrong.
KY state constitution, among many many others, defined marriage as "between one man and one woman." The USSC threw out that defintiion. T hat is called redefining marriage.
You are a dunce.

And he's a liar as well. The Supreme Court trotted out there and changed the definition of Kentucky's marriage law as well as some other states and then turned around and went off to dine on lobster tail leaving a lot of local and state governmental officials subject to jail and lawsuits instead of even making a minor attempt at staving off the collateral damages stemming from their decision. That clerk could have been sued by some other party for issuing the licenses in violation of Kentucky law. The state attorney general could have arrested her for issuing the licenses to same-sex couples. She was caught in the crosshairs. She was doomed to violate either one law or another. It should be the Court's responsibility to foresee things like this. The state of Kentucky should have gone to jail if anyone needed to - not that little county clerk.

You claim;
"That clerk could have been sued by some other party for issuing the licenses in violation of Kentucky law. The state attorney general could have arrested her for issuing the licenses to same-sex couples. She was caught in the crosshairs. She was doomed to violate either one law or another. It should be the Court's responsibility to foresee things like this." [Emphasis Added]

The Supremacy clause, Article V, Clause 2, of the Constitution made the Kentucky statute in question MOOT the moment the Supremes released their decision in Obergefell v. Hodges last June 26th. There would have been no jeopardy what so ever attached to Kim Davis if she had just done her sworn duty and issued those licenses to any same sex couples requesting one.

You claim. I submit she fulfilled her sworn duty as pertaining to the law she swore to uphold when she took office. The law in effect in Kentucky at the time she took office was the law she took an oath to uphold. The law was changed dummox.

Dummox? How very, very scientific and open minded of you!

Fidelity to the US Constitution was also part of that oath! Hey, if you don't think the Constitution is the Law of the Land, get the hell out of my Country and move to Tejas!

You are in gross error!

 

[Bonzi]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

My husband said she is making Christian's look bad.
Either way, I don't think it's appropriate for Pastor's to be weighing in on issues like this.
I hate when the Pastor's and teacher's bring these issues up in Church. Not appropriate.

Faux christians always get embarrassed when one of their kind is exposed.

Fortunately this pastor has enough integrity to call out faux christians. More power to him because Christianity could use more of his kind IMO.

I think we need more REAL Christians standing up for the Gospel. I can't even believe you would suppose to have any discernment regarding who is a true Christian. Judgmental much?

 

[Derideo_Te]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

My husband said she is making Christian's look bad.
Either way, I don't think it's appropriate for Pastor's to be weighing in on issues like this.
I hate when the Pastor's and teacher's bring these issues up in Church. Not appropriate.

Faux christians always get embarrassed when one of their kind is exposed.

Fortunately this pastor has enough integrity to call out faux christians. More power to him because Christianity could use more of his kind IMO.

I think we need more REAL Christians standing up for the Gospel. I can't even believe you would suppose to have any discernment regarding who is a true Christian. Judgmental much?

Your self admitted embarrassment says volumes about you.

 

[Bonzi]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

My husband said she is making Christian's look bad.
Either way, I don't think it's appropriate for Pastor's to be weighing in on issues like this.
I hate when the Pastor's and teacher's bring these issues up in Church. Not appropriate.

Faux christians always get embarrassed when one of their kind is exposed.

Fortunately this pastor has enough integrity to call out faux christians. More power to him because Christianity could use more of his kind IMO.

I think we need more REAL Christians standing up for the Gospel. I can't even believe you would suppose to have any discernment regarding who is a true Christian. Judgmental much?

Your self admitted embarrassment says volumes about you.

You like to THINK that but your presumptuous arrogance DOES say a lot about you, and you and everyone else here knows it......

 

[Statistikhengst]

That's not true. God forgives all sins but one if the person is fully and truly sorry

When someone keeps doing something 4 times, are they fully and truly sorry?

It's my understanding she became a Christian after the divorces. Onnly God knows her heart and there is only one unforgivable sin.

So she wasn't christian before then? What was she? Catholic? Are you asserting that a county in the middle of the bible belt would elect someone who was not a christian? Good one.

She was a sinner. You don't understand what you're blabbering about and are a waste of time

So she's not a sinner now? You making that assertion, are you? Hubris isn't a sin? Gluttony isn't a sin? Religious tyranny over her workers isn't a sin?

I would say that the gluttony part is self evident....

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[Statistikhengst]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

Even the Devil works in mysterious ways. You think he doesn't have followers wearing the cloth?

And you are, of course, in the position to judge this-because, uh.....

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[Statistikhengst]

Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

(non-copyright material, can be published in its entirety)

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

Even the Devil works in mysterious ways. You think he doesn't have followers wearing the cloth?

Sure he does, the Bible even warns of them

And now the christians turn on each other.

It was only a matter of time. For many "Christians", politics of hate is more important than G-d.

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Baptist Pastor Crushes Kim Davis And The Hypocrisy Of His Fellow Evangelicals In Open Letter


The letter:

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.

This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.

Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.

We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.

If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."

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Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin. He's a Christian and a Pastor. She is not a Pastor. So, who is right, here?

Hmmmm???

My husband said she is making Christian's look bad.
Either way, I don't think it's appropriate for Pastor's to be weighing in on issues like this.
I hate when the Pastor's and teacher's bring these issues up in Church. Not appropriate.

Faux christians always get embarrassed when one of their kind is exposed.

Fortunately this pastor has enough integrity to call out faux christians. More power to him because Christianity could use more of his kind IMO.

I think we need more REAL Christians standing up for the Gospel. I can't even believe you would suppose to have any discernment regarding who is a true Christian. Judgmental much?

Your self admitted embarrassment says volumes about you.

You like to THINK that but your presumptuous arrogance DOES say a lot about you, and you and everyone else here knows it......

Remind me again why your vacuous appeal to the fallacious "authority" of this imaginary opinion of "everyone else" is supposed to keep me awake at night?

 

[the_human_being]

Exactly. Next will come polygamous marriages, incestuous marriages. The floodgates are wide open. I'd simply allow Walmart to sell the licenses just as they sell hunting and fishing licenses now. The license means nothing except as a vehicle to clam tax status and other perceived benefits and even the tax status often results in a penalty.

Why didn't polygamous marriages come after legal heterosexual marriages? Why hasn't incestuous marriages come after legal heterosexual marriages? Why is it that you think legal same sex marriage is so gosh darn powerful?

They are on the horizon fool. A man has already filed suit to marry his two live-in wives.

They've been on the horizon since the Mormon church was created.....yet, you want to blame something that's been hovering for over 160 years on this year's decision on legal gay marriage? How successful has 160 years of wanting polygamy worked so far? Could you point out what it is about the gay marriage decision that makes it easier for those wanting legal polygamy? http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

Simple fool. The Defense of Marriage Act defined marriage as only between ONE man and ONE woman. The Supreme Court does not make any such distinctions and excludes no one.

Ah...starting with the insults now? After wagging your sanctimonious finger at another poster? And you don't seem to be aware of the fact that DOMA is pretty much gone now. Freedom rings!

No. Just answering your uninformed and stupid question.

 

[the_human_being]

75% of the voters thought so. What happened was 75% of the voters had their votes vacated while 25% had their votes validated. Gays and lesbians only make up about 6 or 7 per cent of the total population. Get real. You'll never have 100% agreement on any issue but the majority should prevail.

The decision was the worst in history. Worse than Plessy v Ferguson. Worse than Roe v Wade. The Supreme Court threw out:
1) 2000 years of Western tradition, which holds marriage is one man, one woman
2) 200 years of American Jurisprudence, which holds judges interpret laws
3) the 10th Amendment, which holds powers not specifically granted to the federal government are retained by the states
4) 200 years of tradition that holds states primarily define marriage and similar laws within their borders
5) Over 200 years of tradition that holds the Will of the People is the ultimate arbiter of standards
6) The principle of one man, one vote
7) The principle of limited government

Now the Supreme Court can invent anything, call it a right, and declare that it is protected under the 14th A. There is no limiting principle to it.

Exactly. Next will come polygamous marriages, incestuous marriages. The floodgates are wide open. I'd simply allow Walmart to sell the licenses just as they sell hunting and fishing licenses now. The license means nothing except as a vehicle to clam tax status and other perceived benefits and even the tax status often results in a penalty.

ROFL what a lying bigoted piece of shit you are.

At least I can speak without resorting to a speel of profanity. You are a vulgar uncouth brute beast and an insult to humanity in general.

You don't like the salt? Then quit with the bullshit slippery slope fallacy. How about if I say something like if we let you bible thumping bigots get away with your attack on gay people next you'll be burning sinners in the town square and killing children for blood sacrifices?

Yours is not salt. Yours is the limited vocabulary of a sick and depraved mind. For anyone to resort to typing out obscene words on a public forum attests to the low-life character of that individual and the total failure of his parents in rearing him to assimilate into civilized society.

 

[the_human_being]

Wrong.

Obergefell did not 'redefine' marriage, to maintain it did is a ridiculous lie.

Marriage is the same now as it was before the ruling: a union of two equal, adult, consenting partners not related to each other in a relationship recognized by the state – unaltered, unchanged, and not 'redefined.'

Wrong.
KY state constitution, among many many others, defined marriage as "between one man and one woman." The USSC threw out that defintiion. T hat is called redefining marriage.
You are a dunce.

And he's a liar as well. The Supreme Court trotted out there and changed the definition of Kentucky's marriage law as well as some other states and then turned around and went off to dine on lobster tail leaving a lot of local and state governmental officials subject to jail and lawsuits instead of even making a minor attempt at staving off the collateral damages stemming from their decision. That clerk could have been sued by some other party for issuing the licenses in violation of Kentucky law. The state attorney general could have arrested her for issuing the licenses to same-sex couples. She was caught in the crosshairs. She was doomed to violate either one law or another. It should be the Court's responsibility to foresee things like this. The state of Kentucky should have gone to jail if anyone needed to - not that little county clerk.

You claim;
"That clerk could have been sued by some other party for issuing the licenses in violation of Kentucky law. The state attorney general could have arrested her for issuing the licenses to same-sex couples. She was caught in the crosshairs. She was doomed to violate either one law or another. It should be the Court's responsibility to foresee things like this." [Emphasis Added]

The Supremacy clause, Article V, Clause 2, of the Constitution made the Kentucky statute in question MOOT the moment the Supremes released their decision in Obergefell v. Hodges last June 26th. There would have been no jeopardy what so ever attached to Kim Davis if she had just done her sworn duty and issued those licenses to any same sex couples requesting one.

I earned the right to be here. I gave my right arm and shoulder to be here. What have you contributed except your mouth?

You claim. I submit she fulfilled her sworn duty as pertaining to the law she swore to uphold when she took office. The law in effect in Kentucky at the time she took office was the law she took an oath to uphold. The law was changed dummox.

Dummox? How very, very scientific and open minded of you!

Fidelity to the US Constitution was also part of that oath! Hey, if you don't think the Constitution is the Law of the Land, get the hell out of my Country and move to Tejas!

You are in gross error!