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    What a couple of fucking idiots. They are lucky they didn't just get hooked up and hauled off.
     
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    I can see where they were being idiots with the police. I'm not sure about the legality of banning them from filming though I can also see where it could have to do with Homeland Security.

    But when confronted by the police, by all means co-operate. You can always handle it later if they are wrong.
     
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    What's happened to our society where people feel it's their fucking duty to confront LEO over EVERYTHING?

    I truly wish they would give indemnity to LEO from being sued for any action. Let some people start getting the shit beat out of them for fighting back and shit for awhile. Bet it would stop.

    I mean I can't imagine WHY LEO a government wouldn't want their transportation systems filmed and would want to know who is trying to do so.
     
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    Create an organization HLS, create an atmosphere of fear, and this is the result. Anyone with a cell phone could walk through the place filming anything. But rules are rules and while stupid and invasive, they should have asked for the legal reason and law, and then contacted the ACLU if the issue was important. This is funny to me as I have photographed to and from the Frankford Elevated, and sections of the Broad street subway often. I used to do street photography with a Leica and loved the cityscape and its people.


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    We are not allowed to discuss the banned on here.
     
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    Does this mean you think police have a blanket right to break the law? Because they checked in advance, talked to the man responsible for making decisions about where people can film, and were 100% in the right and legally filming. Yet you think cops get to decide the law on the spur of the moment? Why don't we just trash the Constitution completely and make things up as we go along? It would sure save a lot of money with not having to bother with courts and laws and ridiculous stuff like that.
     
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    They answered all the questions, and complied with the law. What else are they supposed to do? What if the police decided that they wanted to block off access to your house? Would you simply accept it and walk away because they are cops and always right?
     
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    conhogg & crew bend over to anyone with a badge
     
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    Bullshit QW, read the article

    After several phone calls that were never returned, yesterday morning at about 11:30 I finally made contact with the company’s president, John Williams. His interpretation of “30b” and his willingness to trust MDT passengers when they tell his security guards why they’re making pictures was as different from Mr. Muntan’s as day is from night… as fire is from ice… as love is from hate… as steak is from eggs… um, well, you get the picture.

    Mr. Williams stated, “All we would know is what you tell us and we would not stand by that. We would ask you to identify yourself and if you didn’t have a permit we would ask you to leave. In fact… you would have to leave or we would notify law enforcement of the situation. We would need approval from the county, a form that the county provides us.” He went on to say that anyone who does not have that form would be prevented from making photographs on MDT property.

    Hmmm… a conundrum…

    After speaking with Mr. Williams, it seemed to me that the only way to get to the bottom of the situation and to really understand what rights a MDT passenger has or does not have with regard to photography was to head to a nearby metro station, make some photos, and see what would happen.

    Though I hoped to make photographs in and around the Douglas Road metro stop to send to my lovely wife in Richmond and to use in my report, and to then be on my merry way, I prepared for the worst. If Mr. Williams’ people were trained as he said they were, rather than as Mr. Muntan said they should be, then there was a decent chance that I would be arrested while making my pictures and go to jail. So I took a few precautions:



    The President of the company told him , if you don't have a permit the police will be called, he chose to test that. He found out that the President of the company was correct

    As for why they have the policy, it should be obvious to you.
     

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