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Bad Faith: The Catholic Hierarchy?s Pointless Campaign Against LGBT Rights | (A)theologies | Religion Dispatches
By Casey and Mary Ellen Lopata

Casey and Mary Ellen Lopata are co-founders of Fortunate Families, which ministers with Catholic families with lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender children, and is a member of the Equally Blessed coalition.


In early July, Archbishop Jose H. Gomez of Los Angeles opposed a modest piece of legislation that requires schools in that state to include lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgender people, and other previously excluded groups, in their social studies curricula.

The archbishop argued that he was merely supporting parents’ rights to make decisions regarding their children’s education. But Catholics who pay attention to our bishops’ energetic campaign to thwart any legislation that legitimizes (or in this instance, even recognizes) same-gender attraction are familiar with this ruse.

Our hierarchy has a habit of invoking noble sounding principles but applying them only when they can be used against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people.

Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington did something similar last year when he announced that the legalization of same-sex marriage in the District of Columbia had forced him to stop offering health insurance to the spouses of new employees of Catholic Charities. The marriage equality law, he explained, would force him to extend benefits to gay and lesbian couples, and since this violated the church’s teaching on marriage, he could not do it.

There is Sin, and then There is Gay Sin

To take this argument seriously, one has to overlook the fact that Catholic Charities already offered benefits to the spouses of employees who had not been married in the Catholic Church, or who had been remarried without benefit of an annulment. These are also clear violations of the Church’s teaching on marriage. But Wuerl’s harsh and unloving stance is typical of a hierarchy that behaves as though there is sin, and then there is gay sin—and gay sin is much worse.

Catholics faithful to the scriptural admonition to love mercy, do justice, and walk humbly with their God, have become increasingly alienated by bishops who seem obsessed with pushing a narrow anti-gay agenda to the exclusion even of simple charity. Our bishops were in the small minority of religious leaders who failed to speak out when a wave of anti-gay bullying, some of which led to suicides, swept the country last year. At a time when seemingly every organization in the United States was finding a way to tell young lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people that “It Gets Better,” our hierarchy, to our shame, was silent.

In their zeal to deny any form of legitimacy to same-sex relationships, the bishops have neglected more urgent pastoral duties. Catholic schools and parishes are closing by the dozen in dioceses across the country, yet somehow the hierarchy and its allies in the Knights of Columbus have found millions of dollars to spend in one state after another opposing marriage equality, or its weaker cousin, the civil union.

Leaders Without Followers

The rhetoric our bishops employ in these campaigns is hardly pastoral. Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York, referred to same-sex marriage as “an Orwellian nightmare” and an “ominous threat.” He compared his state’s government to North Korea’s during New York’s recent debate on marriage equality. Then, upon losing the debate, this prince of the Church, with a palace on Fifth Avenue, proclaimed himself a victim of intolerance.

We are well acquainted with the history of anti-Catholic bigotry in this country, and keenly aware of what our forebears in the faith suffered at the hands of hateful fellow citizens. But we find it reprehensible when that legacy is invoked by those who themselves advocate discrimination and repression. If you are the Catholic parent of LGBT daughter or son, you know firsthand that it is your child’s sexual identity, and not a belief in the Immaculate Conception, that puts them at risk for beatings and taunting. Archbishop Dolan and his colleagues should stop pretending that they face anything like the intolerance that our children do.

A Gay-Friendly Church?


The one fortunate aspect of the bishop’s campaign against LGBT people is that it has been singularly ineffective. Polling by the Public Religion Research Institute makes clear that almost three-quarters of Catholics support either marriage equality or civil unions, and that we back legal protections for LGBT people in the workplace (73 percent), in the military (63 percent), and in adoptions (60 percent) by significant margins.

We are, in other words, an extremely gay-friendly church; and while it has taken a while for this fact to filter out beneath the bluster of our bishops and their lobbyists, political leaders have begun to take note. A Catholic governor and Catholic legislators made marriage equality a reality in New York. A Catholic governor and legislators passed civil unions into law in Illinois. Heavily Catholic Rhode Island passed a civil union bill over the protests of Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, and a Catholic governor has promised to permit same-sex couples to marry in Maryland, if the legislature will only put the bill on his desk.

A few days after Archbishop Gomez announced his opposition to the legislation requiring California schools to give an accurate recounting of the nation’s history. Gov. Jerry Brown, a Roman Catholic, signed it into law.

Those of us who support equality for LGBT people in civil society do so not in spite of our Catholic faith but because of it. We learned in childhood that Jesus moved freely among the outcast and the marginalized, that he warned his followers to judge not lest they be judged, and that he taught that our neighbor was not the priest who passed the beaten traveller on the other side of the road to avoid ritual impurity, but the hated Samaritan who bound up his wounds, and paid for his care.

We learned later that the Church’s teachings on social justice compelled us to act as advocates for fairness, justice, and individual dignity, that its teachings on politics instructed us to vote for the common good, and that in making moral decisions, we were to follow the promptings of our own well-formed consciences.

There are times, it seems, when our hierarchy is so committed to cultivating political power, and deploying our Church’s resources in contemporary culture wars, that they expect us to forget all of this. We won’t.

As Philadelphia Burns

Last week, the Vatican announced that it had appointed Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver as the new archbishop of Philadelphia. The clergy abuse scandal that has badly damaged the hierarchy’s credibility is still spinning out of control in Philadelphia, and Pope Benedict XVI clearly thinks that Archbishop Chaput is the right man for a difficult job.

We would only note that in his previous post, he supported a parish priest who expelled a girl from a Catholic school because her parents were lesbians. The archbishop argued that parents must be able to cooperate with Catholic schools in the education of their children, and that those who do not embrace Church doctrine cannot do so.

This was not an argument he employed against Protestants, or non-Christians, or children whose parents had remarried after a divorce. It was employed exclusively against lesbian parents. Because in the theological universe that our bishops are constructing to support their personal biases, there is sin, and then there is gay sin, and gay sin is so much worse.

Editor's note: Casey and Mary Ellen Lopata wrote the above as individuals; the piece doesn’t necessarily represent the position of Fortunate Families.
 
Why are people so obsessed with changing 1500 years of Catholic rules? If you disagree with the Catholic Church's stance, don't go to the Catholic Church. No one forces you to.

I don't agree with the Catholic Church or a number of their stances so I'm not a member of their Church. Seems like a simple solution to me.
 
Why are people so obsessed with changing 1500 years of Catholic rules? If you disagree with the Catholic Church's stance, don't go to the Catholic Church. No one forces you to.

I don't agree with the Catholic Church or a number of their stances so I'm not a member of their Church. Seems like a simple solution to me.

It sounds like you think ex-catholics should not comment on problems in the catholic church.

I disagreed with the church and I left.
 
Why are people so obsessed with changing 1500 years of Catholic rules? If you disagree with the Catholic Church's stance, don't go to the Catholic Church. No one forces you to.

I don't agree with the Catholic Church or a number of their stances so I'm not a member of their Church. Seems like a simple solution to me.

It sounds like you think ex-catholics should not comment on problems in the catholic church.

I disagreed with the church and I left.
My coworker told me he was thinking about being a priest when he was younger but chose not to. He's gay! Now I'm convinced any Catholic priest has to be a closeted gay. There is something wrong with a man not having sex. Glad our priests can marry. We split from the Catholic Church. Greek Orthodox.
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?
 
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

What aren't they afforded that everyone else is?

The Church teaches that we see Christ in one another. Are you advocating that for one group, we instead concentrate on seeing sexual orientation in them?
 
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

What aren't they afforded that everyone else is?

The Church teaches that we see Christ in one another. Are you advocating that for one group, we instead concentrate on seeing sexual orientation in them?
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.
Precisely. Which is how people treat heterosexuals--like everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

Gays don't want to marry in a Catholic Church because Catholic Churches only perform the sacramental part of the marriage according to what Christ taught. 1. Sacramental marriage is between a man and a woman. 2. Sacramental marriage is until death, not until divorce.

Anyone who wants to have a sacramental marriage follows these two teachings by Christ on marriage. The Catholic Church is not authorized to marry anyone else. A divorced person may not remarry in the Catholic Church because priests are not authorized to remarry a person whose original vows still hold. Remember, a sacramental marriage is not recognized by the State until it is filed with civil authorities. On the other hand, a civil marriage does not have to be filed with a church.
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

They are given the same thing all are. An invitation to repent and come to Christ. You've been given the same invitation so have I. The Lord is inviting us all to come to Him and give Him our lives. That is the great plan of happiness
 
They are given the same thing all are. An invitation to repent and come to Christ. You've been given the same invitation so have I. The Lord is inviting us all to come to Him and give Him our lives. That is the great plan of happiness

Yes. I have (perhaps) a slightly different approach. I believe everyone who is not LGBT should stay out of the conversation. I believe God's commands are in our best interests. Also, in Scandinavian countries who have been publicly open to all this for much longer than America has, we still see two things: Greater health problems in this community; higher instances of psychological problems in this community. The psychological problems surprised everyone because it was thought the psychological problems would dissipate once public acceptance was the norm.

I am not going to go around and call anyone a sinner, but nor am I going to jump on that "cool" wagon and tell the world how great it is. Otherwise I might well be shouting to someone, "Yes go for the higher percentage of health and psychological problems!" If I wouldn't urge a heterosexual into going into an endeavor known to have greater health and psychological risks, then I'm certainly not going to urge LGBT to take such a risk.

There are pros and cons to any choice. I wouldn't pretend there weren't any problems associated with another particular choice, and therefore I am not going to pretend there are no problems attached to this one.
 
Why are people so obsessed with changing 1500 years of Catholic rules? If you disagree with the Catholic Church's stance, don't go to the Catholic Church. No one forces you to.

I don't agree with the Catholic Church or a number of their stances so I'm not a member of their Church. Seems like a simple solution to me.

It sounds like you think ex-catholics should not comment on problems in the catholic church.

I disagreed with the church and I left.
My coworker told me he was thinking about being a priest when he was younger but chose not to. He's gay! Now I'm convinced any Catholic priest has to be a closeted gay. There is something wrong with a man not having sex. Glad our priests can marry. We split from the Catholic Church. Greek Orthodox.

One does not cause the other. Pedophile priests were pedos before they became priests. Celibacy does not cause a particular sexuality.




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Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?


I agree and it's the same with society in general.

I don't blame any group for working to get the same rights everyone else enjoys.


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Bad Faith: The Catholic Hierarchy?s Pointless Campaign Against LGBT Rights | (A)theologies | Religion Dispatches
By Casey and Mary Ellen Lopata

Casey and Mary Ellen Lopata are co-founders of Fortunate Families, which ministers with Catholic families with lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender children, and is a member of the Equally Blessed coalition.


In early July, Archbishop Jose H. Gomez of Los Angeles opposed a modest piece of legislation that requires schools in that state to include lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgender people, and other previously excluded groups, in their social studies curricula.

The archbishop argued that he was merely supporting parents’ rights to make decisions regarding their children’s education. But Catholics who pay attention to our bishops’ energetic campaign to thwart any legislation that legitimizes (or in this instance, even recognizes) same-gender attraction are familiar with this ruse.

Our hierarchy has a habit of invoking noble sounding principles but applying them only when they can be used against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people.

Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington did something similar last year when he announced that the legalization of same-sex marriage in the District of Columbia had forced him to stop offering health insurance to the spouses of new employees of Catholic Charities. The marriage equality law, he explained, would force him to extend benefits to gay and lesbian couples, and since this violated the church’s teaching on marriage, he could not do it.

There is Sin, and then There is Gay Sin

To take this argument seriously, one has to overlook the fact that Catholic Charities already offered benefits to the spouses of employees who had not been married in the Catholic Church, or who had been remarried without benefit of an annulment. These are also clear violations of the Church’s teaching on marriage. But Wuerl’s harsh and unloving stance is typical of a hierarchy that behaves as though there is sin, and then there is gay sin—and gay sin is much worse.

Catholics faithful to the scriptural admonition to love mercy, do justice, and walk humbly with their God, have become increasingly alienated by bishops who seem obsessed with pushing a narrow anti-gay agenda to the exclusion even of simple charity. Our bishops were in the small minority of religious leaders who failed to speak out when a wave of anti-gay bullying, some of which led to suicides, swept the country last year. At a time when seemingly every organization in the United States was finding a way to tell young lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people that “It Gets Better,” our hierarchy, to our shame, was silent.

In their zeal to deny any form of legitimacy to same-sex relationships, the bishops have neglected more urgent pastoral duties. Catholic schools and parishes are closing by the dozen in dioceses across the country, yet somehow the hierarchy and its allies in the Knights of Columbus have found millions of dollars to spend in one state after another opposing marriage equality, or its weaker cousin, the civil union.

Leaders Without Followers

The rhetoric our bishops employ in these campaigns is hardly pastoral. Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York, referred to same-sex marriage as “an Orwellian nightmare” and an “ominous threat.” He compared his state’s government to North Korea’s during New York’s recent debate on marriage equality. Then, upon losing the debate, this prince of the Church, with a palace on Fifth Avenue, proclaimed himself a victim of intolerance.

We are well acquainted with the history of anti-Catholic bigotry in this country, and keenly aware of what our forebears in the faith suffered at the hands of hateful fellow citizens. But we find it reprehensible when that legacy is invoked by those who themselves advocate discrimination and repression. If you are the Catholic parent of LGBT daughter or son, you know firsthand that it is your child’s sexual identity, and not a belief in the Immaculate Conception, that puts them at risk for beatings and taunting. Archbishop Dolan and his colleagues should stop pretending that they face anything like the intolerance that our children do.

A Gay-Friendly Church?


The one fortunate aspect of the bishop’s campaign against LGBT people is that it has been singularly ineffective. Polling by the Public Religion Research Institute makes clear that almost three-quarters of Catholics support either marriage equality or civil unions, and that we back legal protections for LGBT people in the workplace (73 percent), in the military (63 percent), and in adoptions (60 percent) by significant margins.

We are, in other words, an extremely gay-friendly church; and while it has taken a while for this fact to filter out beneath the bluster of our bishops and their lobbyists, political leaders have begun to take note. A Catholic governor and Catholic legislators made marriage equality a reality in New York. A Catholic governor and legislators passed civil unions into law in Illinois. Heavily Catholic Rhode Island passed a civil union bill over the protests of Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, and a Catholic governor has promised to permit same-sex couples to marry in Maryland, if the legislature will only put the bill on his desk.

A few days after Archbishop Gomez announced his opposition to the legislation requiring California schools to give an accurate recounting of the nation’s history. Gov. Jerry Brown, a Roman Catholic, signed it into law.

Those of us who support equality for LGBT people in civil society do so not in spite of our Catholic faith but because of it. We learned in childhood that Jesus moved freely among the outcast and the marginalized, that he warned his followers to judge not lest they be judged, and that he taught that our neighbor was not the priest who passed the beaten traveller on the other side of the road to avoid ritual impurity, but the hated Samaritan who bound up his wounds, and paid for his care.

We learned later that the Church’s teachings on social justice compelled us to act as advocates for fairness, justice, and individual dignity, that its teachings on politics instructed us to vote for the common good, and that in making moral decisions, we were to follow the promptings of our own well-formed consciences.

There are times, it seems, when our hierarchy is so committed to cultivating political power, and deploying our Church’s resources in contemporary culture wars, that they expect us to forget all of this. We won’t.

As Philadelphia Burns

Last week, the Vatican announced that it had appointed Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver as the new archbishop of Philadelphia. The clergy abuse scandal that has badly damaged the hierarchy’s credibility is still spinning out of control in Philadelphia, and Pope Benedict XVI clearly thinks that Archbishop Chaput is the right man for a difficult job.

We would only note that in his previous post, he supported a parish priest who expelled a girl from a Catholic school because her parents were lesbians. The archbishop argued that parents must be able to cooperate with Catholic schools in the education of their children, and that those who do not embrace Church doctrine cannot do so.

This was not an argument he employed against Protestants, or non-Christians, or children whose parents had remarried after a divorce. It was employed exclusively against lesbian parents. Because in the theological universe that our bishops are constructing to support their personal biases, there is sin, and then there is gay sin, and gay sin is so much worse.

Editor's note: Casey and Mary Ellen Lopata wrote the above as individuals; the piece doesn’t necessarily represent the position of Fortunate Families.



Can't help but notice that this is not same the Catholic Church that hides and protects pedophiles.

More than a little hypocritical and people should be able to trust their child to their church. I'd be interested to know how many Catholic parents have left their church in order to protect their child.


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Why are people so obsessed with changing 1500 years of Catholic rules? If you disagree with the Catholic Church's stance, don't go to the Catholic Church. No one forces you to.

I don't agree with the Catholic Church or a number of their stances so I'm not a member of their Church. Seems like a simple solution to me.

It sounds like you think ex-catholics should not comment on problems in the catholic church.

I disagreed with the church and I left.
My coworker told me he was thinking about being a priest when he was younger but chose not to. He's gay! Now I'm convinced any Catholic priest has to be a closeted gay. There is something wrong with a man not having sex. Glad our priests can marry. We split from the Catholic Church. Greek Orthodox.

One does not cause the other. Pedophile priests were pedos before they became priests. Celibacy does not cause a particular sexuality.




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But you can see how a guy struggling with homosexuality would consider the priesthood. Gays struggle with it and I'm sure pedophiles do too. Some gays say screw it and have gay sex and some pedophiles have sex with minors. But some who believe in God and feel guilty about it might join the priesthood because then no one asks them why they aren't married.

It's the creepiest thing about Catholicism. Probably why us Greek Orthodox split from the Catholics. Our priests have wives if you get married first. You can't become a priest then marry.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.
Precisely. Which is how people treat heterosexuals--like everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

Gays don't want to marry in a Catholic Church because Catholic Churches only perform the sacramental part of the marriage according to what Christ taught. 1. Sacramental marriage is between a man and a woman. 2. Sacramental marriage is until death, not until divorce.

Anyone who wants to have a sacramental marriage follows these two teachings by Christ on marriage. The Catholic Church is not authorized to marry anyone else. A divorced person may not remarry in the Catholic Church because priests are not authorized to remarry a person whose original vows still hold. Remember, a sacramental marriage is not recognized by the State until it is filed with civil authorities. On the other hand, a civil marriage does not have to be filed with a church.
Which makes the Catholic Church homophobic. Are you?
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

They are given the same thing all are. An invitation to repent and come to Christ. You've been given the same invitation so have I. The Lord is inviting us all to come to Him and give Him our lives. That is the great plan of happiness
What do the LGTB crowd have to repent about? God made them the way they are.
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

They are given the same thing all are. An invitation to repent and come to Christ. You've been given the same invitation so have I. The Lord is inviting us all to come to Him and give Him our lives. That is the great plan of happiness
What do the LGTB crowd have to repent about? God made them the way they are.

Why schizophrenia of the Catholic Church which makes their distinction they are God while baptizing eyes by urination in homophobic jihads certainly creates one nation under God for their super egos.
 
Why are people so obsessed with changing 1500 years of Catholic rules? If you disagree with the Catholic Church's stance, don't go to the Catholic Church. No one forces you to.

I don't agree with the Catholic Church or a number of their stances so I'm not a member of their Church. Seems like a simple solution to me.

It sounds like you think ex-catholics should not comment on problems in the catholic church.

I disagreed with the church and I left.
My coworker told me he was thinking about being a priest when he was younger but chose not to. He's gay! Now I'm convinced any Catholic priest has to be a closeted gay. There is something wrong with a man not having sex. Glad our priests can marry. We split from the Catholic Church. Greek Orthodox.

Do you have the same issue with Buddhist Monks or Hindu Mystics?
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
 

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